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Old Apr 15, 2018 | 06:16 PM
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Holley 6212 AAA 800 cfm Spreadbore

I was thinking about shopping for 1 to try out. I know that they are no longer making it so I would be looking for NOS or used. Has anyone used it before? So that I may learn from your experience before going down this route.


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Old Apr 16, 2018 | 07:18 AM
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I ran one of these spreadbore Holley carbs years ago. Don't waste your time. Get a properly built and set up Qjet. Your car will thank you.
Old Apr 16, 2018 | 08:17 AM
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My old man had a spreadbore Holley on his 71 Corvette with stock 350.

It did a couple things differently.

The Holley would not let fuel evaporate so much, and the QJ required more cranking when sitting for a while.

The QJet did not load up while idling which the Holley did.

The Holley had mechanical secondaries and you would feel the boot of the gods when they kicked in; the Qjet was more smooth.

The Holley would let the car do 135 all out, and the QJet allowed 125, circa when new, 1972.
Old Apr 16, 2018 | 08:25 AM
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Not mine.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HOLLEY-800-...havsfu&vxp=mtr
Old Apr 16, 2018 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Koda
The Holley had mechanical secondaries
So does the Qjet. Adjusting the spring wrap on the air valve and dialing in the orifice on the dashpot will give you the same feeling.
Old Apr 16, 2018 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
So does the Qjet. Adjusting the spring wrap on the air valve and dialing in the orifice on the dashpot will give you the same feeling.
I wasn't precise enough. The Holley did not have the vacuum air horn valves the QJet has. Mechanical secondaries, in my terms, means the whole back two barrels, not just the throttle blades.
Old Apr 16, 2018 | 10:50 AM
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I wasn't precise enough. The Holley did not have the vacuum air horn valves the QJet has. Mechanical secondaries, in my terms, means the whole back two barrels, not just the throttle blades.
The Qjet has mechanically operated secondary throttle plates, period. The air valves obviously open in response to mass air flow through the secondaries, but they can be adjusted to preclude any added resistance. If properly adjusted, this will not be a performance loss.
Old Apr 16, 2018 | 11:22 AM
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What are you going to use it on? What manifold?
Old Apr 17, 2018 | 05:55 AM
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I was thinking of using it on our W-30 so that I wouldn't have to alter the factory carb. Our car currently has the Sig Erson Hy Flow2 cam in it with the stock intake. Not really wanting to change the intake. I have use the Holley 650cfm Spreadbore in the past and really like it. That is why I was thinking of the 800cfm on the stock intake.
Old Apr 17, 2018 | 06:04 AM
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That one on eBay looks good. If you are familiar with them, grab that one. The factory W-30 carb is only 750 cfm, mods like adjusting the air door to open more might help.
Old Apr 17, 2018 | 06:26 AM
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Its hard to compete against a quadrajet and I don't think you'll gain anything. With that said the Holley 6212 is a good carb compared to its 6210 counterpart.
Old Apr 17, 2018 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
The Qjet has mechanically operated secondary throttle plates, period. The air valves obviously open in response to mass air flow through the secondaries, but they can be adjusted to preclude any added resistance. If properly adjusted, this will not be a performance loss.
I don't know how it did it, but the Holley made the engine jump harder.
Old Apr 17, 2018 | 03:52 PM
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I try one on my car never took it off run better then any Qjet and easy to tune.
Old Apr 17, 2018 | 03:53 PM
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I agree with Old Cutlass,if prepared by someone who understands Q-jets and knows their faults,they are an awesome and trouble free carb.However the Holley spread bore is also an awesome carb,I have built many with never a problem.I have three in service in my own vehicles right now.When building a Holley you must be surgically clean as they will tolerate ZERO foreign material.If you choose to go that route,I have several of them if interested
Old Apr 18, 2018 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SmirchIs#1
If you choose to go that route,I have several of them if interested

While that Carb on Ebay looks temping, I don't like working with Ebay and do not have the means to do so.


When you say several, what kind of shape and condition are we talking about? PM me if you would like to keep personal information safe.
Old Apr 19, 2018 | 03:01 AM
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A major thing to consider is that Quadrajets were federal emission carburetors so they had precise idle and cruise fuel metering. Off the shelf Holleys could dump as much gas as they wanted and worked better on modified engines. Quadrajet idle/cruise circuits can me modified for high performance engines and give great throttle response. Check out this video as proof.
Old Apr 19, 2018 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by shiftbyear
A major thing to consider is that Quadrajets were federal emission carburetors so they had precise idle and cruise fuel metering. Off the shelf Holleys could dump as much gas as they wanted and worked better on modified engines. Quadrajet idle/cruise circuits can me modified for high performance engines and give great throttle response. Check out this video as proof.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyyRoaeujiA
Wow, must've watched that video at least 5 times. Thanks for posting
Old Apr 20, 2018 | 05:43 AM
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Holley spreadbore

Originally Posted by SY2455
While that Carb on Ebay looks temping, I don't like working with Ebay and do not have the means to do so.


When you say several, what kind of shape and condition are we talking about? PM me if you would like to keep personal information safe.
I looked & don't have a 6212.I do have 6211's & 6213's,both are 800 cfm and have divorced choke.I also have a 6910 which has manual choke & is 800 cfm.$175 plus ship.If stiil interested I'll send you pics of what you choose.I will disassemble to check for any issues.oxidation or incorrect parts.I will quarantee you a good rebuildable core carb.If you're not in a hurry I could build it for you,but right now I'm swamped doing rears and muncies.Dennis
Old May 1, 2018 | 02:41 PM
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I'm not in a hurry as our car is still in Calif. How much would it be for you to setup the 6213 for me?
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