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Old October 16th, 2014 | 08:53 AM
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71,72 cutlass supreme "hip" angular vs round?

So I am relly liking the look of the 71,72 Cutlass supreme hardtop cars lately.

I do have a question, if you will excuse my ignorance please.

I prefer the cars with the angular "hip" in the rear quarter, but I do see some advertised that have the more rounded look.

What is the significance? were both styles available in a Supreme? Are people listing their cars incorrectly?

thanks for any info on that "hip" area
Old October 16th, 2014 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by techg8
So I am relly liking the look of the 71,72 Cutlass supreme hardtop cars lately.

I do have a question, if you will excuse my ignorance please.

I prefer the cars with the angular "hip" in the rear quarter, but I do see some advertised that have the more rounded look.

What is the significance? were both styles available in a Supreme? Are people listing their cars incorrectly?

thanks for any info on that "hip" area
All 70-72 Supreme hardtops and convertibles have the "angular" notchback quarter panels/formal roofline. The "rounded" fastbacks are base Cutlass, F-85 or Cutlass 'S' models. If you see a fastback advertised as a Supreme, the listing is incorrect.

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Old October 16th, 2014 | 09:57 AM
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Some people mistakenly think the "S" in Cutlass S stands for Supreme.
Old October 16th, 2014 | 11:14 AM
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Thanks. I have been looking for my next project, and the 71-72 Cutlass Supreme hardtops are high in my rankings right now.

Such a good looking car.
Old October 16th, 2014 | 12:05 PM
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Just so we're all clear, this is a 1970-72 Cutlass Supreme Holiday Coupe:



This is a 1970-72 Cutlass Holiday Coupe. As noted, people often mistakenly call this a Cutlass Supreme. They would be wrong.

Old October 17th, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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What is the significance? were both styles available in a Supreme? Are people listing their cars incorrectly?
Although not related to 70-72 models, it's noteworthy that 68/69 body styles were the same for f85/Cutlass/Cutlass Supreme and 442 (Also the 68 HO). All of these cars started out from Fisher as the same body - just different trim and model year applications at front and back. Starting in 70, the CS got it's own profile that also changed its roofline, quarter windows, quarter panels and deck lid areas and related trim.

1968 Cutlass S


1968 Cutlass Supreme
Old October 17th, 2014 | 12:44 PM
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excellent info and pics too.

Thanks fellas
Old October 17th, 2014 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Allan R
Although not related to 70-72 models, it's noteworthy that 68/69 body styles were the same for f85/Cutlass/Cutlass Supreme and 442 (Also the 68 HO). All of these cars started out from Fisher as the same body - just different trim and model year applications at front and back.
Which is why the "headers won't fit Supremes" thing is so ludicrous.

And for completeness, the 1967 models also shared the same body sheetmetal among the F-85, Cutlass, Supreme, and 442. (In 1966, the first year for the Cutlass Supreme, the only model offered was a four door hardtop, which did share sheetmetal with the F-85 Deluxe Holiday Sedan).

Old October 17th, 2014 | 01:55 PM
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semi related question

can you make a 67-69 post car into a non post car by just changing the doors ? and vice versa

from joes pic above holiday coupe and sport coupe ?
Old October 17th, 2014 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RetroRanger
semi related question

can you make a 67-69 post car into a non post car by just changing the doors ? and vice versa

from joes pic above holiday coupe and sport coupe ?
If only it were that easy...

as you correctly surmise, the outer sheet metal is pretty much the same. Unfortunately, the inner structure and things like the roof rail and window regulators are different, as is all the side glass. The quarters have a post like the door, so that needs to come out, the gap at the beltline filled, and the correct inner structure welded in. The quarter window frame would need to be removed and the correct roof rail and weatherstriping installed. Then, of course, you'd need to hang the doors, install the quarter window tracks, regulators, and glass, and the correct inner upholstery panels.

I've often considered using Sport Coupe outer sheet metal to repair a Holiday Coupe. That would be much easier.
Old October 17th, 2014 | 03:18 PM
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aha thanks Joe I had hoped it would be simpler than that but it is what it is !!
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