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Most 70 442 cars these days have a W25 hood for outside air injection, or Ram air as commonly called. However, that was an option and was not on a standard 442. That might be what you are seeing. Nice car. did not analyze the listing so see any errors but that might be what you are seeing. That and it has the standard stripes not W30 stripes like most also put on them.
just a quick look, looks great to me, triple black, standard steering wheel, standard hood, as mentioned looks more like they didn't "over do" the restoration rather than trying to add every option
The only thing that looks off to me is the trunk lid. The numbers are too close to the stripe and not even, along with the spoiler looking like it might be too high on the lid.
Other than that, I really don't have any complaints about it. Nice looking car.
Last edited by svnt442; October 24th, 2016 at 04:54 PM.
I had a black 442 that also had the rocker trim on it must have been a dealer thing. The numbers on the deck lid are too close to the edge but it was a Framingham car so no telling what minor differences in the build there might be. It is missing the trim along the bottom of the deck lid and quarters and the spoiler is high on the deck lid, you can see the mounting studs in one of the pictures.
I can't figure out why people do restorations and use cheap seat covers when Legendary makes the exact replacement.
That is correct. The thing I didn't like was the hole cut in the dash on the left side of the steering wheel for an ammeter. There's lots of space for that under the dash / above the console.
SO the cutlass logo on the hood and the chrome rockers are original to this car then, just wasn't sure of that thanks
There is no "Cutlass" logo on the hood. It says "Oldsmobile" and according to the 1970 Assembly Manual, it was factory installed on the metal hood on 442s.
As others said the Oldsmobile script on he hood is correct. I don't think the rocker trim is correct for 1970 but was used on 1972 Cutlass Supreme, not 442 models. Standard steering wheel, standard shifter, metal hood, so why add the spoiler? It looks out of place on that car to me.
Right. I meant what you said, just wasn't sure it should be there on the 442 model
The Assembly Manual shows it as ONLY being used on the 442 (4400 models). Cutlii of that year have that emblem on the grill, not on the hood. By the way, do you realize how difficult it is to find a photo of a 1970-72 Cutlass or 442 on the web that DOESN'T have a repro W-25 hood on it?
Biggest thing off about tis car is the price. Nice car but damn not cheap
Yeah, $50K is optimistic for that car. Does have a build sheet, but since it's a Framingham, MA car, I'd be worried about rust repair under that new paint.
Again to be picky, and I know that were talking about emblems here, but the first picture that Joe has posted of the 70 Supreme, is less the side body molding and the bright work going down the center of the hood.
Not to nit pick, but to inform, the air filter housing snorkel should be wider. The master cylinder should have bleeders stamp code "EB". The alternator should be open face with the diamond shaped cooling finned back. Also the intake water neck, top radiator hose connects to, should be aluminum with the number "5" embossed on it.
Again to be picky, and I know that were talking about emblems here, but the first picture that Joe has posted of the 70 Supreme, is less the side body molding and the bright work going down the center of the hood.
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Yeah, though I was only using that photo to illustrate the emblem on the grille.
I was curious about the hood script since my car has it. Mine was an early build Oct '69 & I'd be shocked if it was added afterwards. My car also has few deviations from stock and it actually looks like the previous over took the effort to maintain the original factory markings on the underside of the hood when it was painted.
I finally had a chance to look at my factory sales brochure and its not shown in the photos. Kind of interesting.
I finally had a chance to look at my factory sales brochure and its not shown in the photos. Kind of interesting.
Keep in mind that those brochures are printed before the start of actual production. Photos are of pre-production cars that may or may not accurately reflect the final production version. Even documents like the Salesman's SPECS booklet and CSM have release dates and got changed over the course of the model year. For example, the 1964 CSM doesn't have any info on the Vista Cruiser, as it was not released until April 1964.
There are even factory press photos of a pre-production 1968 442 (the one with the 00-00-00 license plate) with W-36 stripes in the wrong place.
The only thing that looks off to me is the trunk lid. The numbers are too close to the stripe and not even, along with the spoiler looking like it might be too high on the lid.
Other than that, I really don't have any complaints about it. Nice looking car.
To follow up on Joe's comments on the brochure cars, I always thought the photos of the Vista Cruiser in the '70 brochures looked more like a '69 than a '70
I know it’s said that every 70-72 has the w25 hood on it now, and by looking at pictures online or car shows it does appear so. In my experience in the real world I rarely even see these cars on the streets and when I do they usually have the flat hood on them. My car is a Cutlass convertible, if I could do it over again I would still use the hood and stripes, I would just make sure the stripes were correct.
Last edited by 4speed455; October 1st, 2021 at 10:15 AM.
My '72 CS came with the standard hood - arguably too uninteresting to my eye. The factory scoop hood is a stunning addition whether 'legit' for a particular model or not, just as the GS scoop hood was that I installed on my former '71 Skylark ragtop. I don't like rear wings on any car, thus a non-issue for me.
Point being, in my opinion, no more over-done than stock configuration parts, just really a popular preference to improve on an already good thing. In my case, I can't justify the likely $5k investment it would take to get a Thornton (or even a good used OEM) OAI hood onto my car, and that's not even counting the added $$ if I were to actually add the OAI parts underneath it.
So I went the next cheapest route and installed a factory 'S' louvered hood (per my before/after pics). Incorrect? Technically, yes, but it's still more appealing than my original hood which is packed away in my garage for any future time it might be needed. And for the most part, non-Olds people don't know the difference as to whether right or wrong for the car. For me it's just a neat variation on the theme given the alternatives.
Oh, and I did remove the Oldsmobile script and fill the holes on the front of the 'S' hood - not sure what Olds was thinking to put script there...
Last edited by 70sgeek; October 1st, 2021 at 01:01 PM.
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