85 88 Headers Help?

J-(Chicago) · 03-08-2008, 07:10 AM

What headers should I use for an 85 Delta? Do you think these 75's would work even though those cars were bigger? Or should I use G body ones?

http://www.amazon.com/Flow-Tech-Head...988377&sr=8-38

From The Header Shop.com: I was under the impression that the sub frames for G Body were used on the Delta 88 for 80-85 These should be the right fit:
http://www.kincaid.com/ray/headers/item/zx213893p.html
Thanks,
Ray

I have a beat up set of A body headers that I will test fit, but I'm thinking It's going to be a big NO.

Redog · 03-08-2008, 10:42 AM

I know for a fact they will not work. I tried G body headers

I have a printout of 1975 Cutlass headers, but I'm not sure if they will fit or not.

I was looking at this set, you need something that will clear the frame. Long tubes will not clear the engine crossmember.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

I haven't had the money to get them and test it out. Plus I'm putting some seroius money into the Alero right now, getting it ready for the Homecomming show

J-(Chicago) · 03-08-2008, 01:52 PM

So the G's won't work, and you think the 75's are too tall?
Hmm...
I think I'm gonna have some ugly, slag piled home made ones then. Those hedmans look nice.

Anyone else have thoughts?

J-(Chicago) · 03-08-2008, 05:14 PM

An R.O.P. member feels that the A body headers will work if I remove the angled braces on the car.

joe_padavano · 03-08-2008, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redog

I know for a fact they will not work. I tried G body headers...

I'm very curious as to what the problem was. The 80s G-body and B-body cars use exactly the same motor and frame mounts. The crossmember is also very similar, and the B-body frame should be wider. What did the headers hit?

Redog · 03-08-2008, 06:41 PM

It's the way they come down.

I bought a pair when I still had the 307 in the car and they didn't fit. I bought similar ones that were mentioned in the first post (looked the same but a different manfacture)

Personally, I think somethng that will exit right by the #7 and #8 cyl respectively will do the trick

J-(Chicago) · 03-08-2008, 08:02 PM

A little side note:
If any of you folks have an early 80's GMC Sierra...
You can put a SBO motor in with Omega headers

2blu442 · 03-08-2008, 08:09 PM

How were you installing them? When I put a set on my 1971 Cutlass Wagon I jacked it up pretty high and put them in from underneath. I still had to remove the oil filter mount and re-install it when the header was in place.
John

78cutlass · 03-09-2008, 08:15 PM

J-(Chicago),
I apologize that my writing ability is not up to par with yours. I'm no English gramar guru. I'm all ears to constructive criticism though. You know what they say - "there's always room for improvement". However, I don't see how any of this has anything whatsoever to do with the actual issue at hand - OLDSMOBILES & EVERYTHING SURROUNDING THEM. Nevertheless, take care buddy.....

*78cutlass*

J-(Chicago) · 03-09-2008, 08:27 PM

Hey man, no harm done.
We're guys, that's what we do. After being nice and helpful on the web all day, It's refreshing to be a dick, every now and then. All in a day's work.
Everyone gets a jab in the ribs every now and then, part of growing up.
Actually, I believe my english correction was incorrect anyway, Capt.Jim set the record straight on that issue already I believe.

And now...
Back to headers on 88s

Redog · 04-20-2008, 04:02 PM

I just emailed Hedman about headers # 58160.

Hopefully I'll get a reply soon. My 307 manifolds are leaking more and more

Follow the link in my other post

Olds64 · 04-20-2008, 05:43 PM

I know this company makes headers for the earlier B bodies. I don't know if they would fit though.

http://www.dougsheaders.com/prod/ex/...ngerCarHeaders

Seems to me that a set of "shorty" headers would be the way to go. However, I have never installed headers before. I did help my buddy change header gaskets on the 81 Camaro he had. I recall he was changing those about once every DAY!

J-(Chicago) · 04-20-2008, 09:38 PM

I got it all figured out.
Abody full lengths will work. There are 2 frame braces that have to be removed to install them however.

Olds64 · 04-21-2008, 05:09 AM

Cool! When you do the job make sure you take some pics and post them so we can check it out! At least let us see the finished product. That will be TOTALLY SWEET!

03-08-2008, 07:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
J-(Chicago) Seasoned beater pilot. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,588	85 88 Headers Help? What headers should I use for an 85 Delta? Do you think these 75's would work even though those cars were bigger? Or should I use G body ones? http://www.amazon.com/Flow-Tech-Head...988377&sr=8-38 *From The Header Shop.com:* I was under the impression that the sub frames for G Body were used on the Delta 88 for 80-85 These should be the right fit: http://www.kincaid.com/ray/headers/item/zx213893p.html Thanks, Ray I have a beat up set of A body headers that I will test fit, but I'm thinking It's going to be a big NO. __________________ I'd rather have a numbers matching poker hand. Last edited by J-(Chicago) : 03-08-2008 at 07:14 AM.

03-08-2008, 10:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
Redog Alero Chapter Secretary Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newtown, PA Posts: 779	I know for a fact they will not work. I tried G body headers I have a printout of 1975 Cutlass headers, but I'm not sure if they will fit or not. I was looking at this set, you need something that will clear the frame. Long tubes will not clear the engine crossmember. http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku I haven't had the money to get them and test it out. Plus I'm putting some seroius money into the Alero right now, getting it ready for the Homecomming show __________________ Me 2000 Alero running 14's 1985 Delta 88 w/1968 350 rocket 2005 Nissan Altima (her's) Last edited by Redog : 03-08-2008 at 10:57 AM. Reason: Fixed link

03-08-2008, 01:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
J-(Chicago) Seasoned beater pilot. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,588	So the G's won't work, and you think the 75's are too tall? Hmm... I think I'm gonna have some ugly, slag piled home made ones then. Those hedmans look nice. Anyone else have thoughts? __________________ I'd rather have a numbers matching poker hand. Last edited by J-(Chicago) : 03-08-2008 at 02:20 PM.

03-08-2008, 05:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
J-(Chicago) Seasoned beater pilot. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,588	An R.O.P. member feels that the A body headers will work if I remove the angled braces on the car. __________________ I'd rather have a numbers matching poker hand.

03-08-2008, 06:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
Redog Alero Chapter Secretary Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newtown, PA Posts: 779	It's the way they come down. I bought a pair when I still had the 307 in the car and they didn't fit. I bought similar ones that were mentioned in the first post (looked the same but a different manfacture) Personally, I think somethng that will exit right by the #7 and #8 cyl respectively will do the trick __________________ Me 2000 Alero running 14's 1985 Delta 88 w/1968 350 rocket 2005 Nissan Altima (her's)

03-08-2008, 08:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
J-(Chicago) Seasoned beater pilot. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,588	A little side note: If any of you folks have an early 80's GMC Sierra... You can put a SBO motor in with Omega headers __________________ I'd rather have a numbers matching poker hand.

03-08-2008, 08:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
2blu442 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Medford, Oregon Posts: 877	How were you installing them? When I put a set on my 1971 Cutlass Wagon I jacked it up pretty high and put them in from underneath. I still had to remove the oil filter mount and re-install it when the header was in place. John __________________ 1964 Cutlass Factory 4spd 1965 442 4spd 1967 442 Auto 1967 Cutlass Convertible 1968 442 Auto 1969 442 W30 Auto 1970 442 4spd 1971 Cutlass Flat Top Wagon 1973 Che*vy 3/4 Ton 454/TH400 Tow Vehicle Only the tow vehicle is finished!

03-09-2008, 08:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
78cutlass 78cutlass Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 55	J-(Chicago), I apologize that my writing ability is not up to par with yours. I'm no English gramar guru. I'm all ears to constructive criticism though. You know what they say - "there's always room for improvement". However, I don't see how any of this has anything whatsoever to do with the actual issue at hand - OLDSMOBILES & EVERYTHING SURROUNDING THEM. Nevertheless, take care buddy..... 78cutlass

03-09-2008, 08:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
J-(Chicago) Seasoned beater pilot. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,588	Hey man, no harm done. We're guys, that's what we do. After being nice and helpful on the web all day, It's refreshing to be a dick, every now and then. All in a day's work. Everyone gets a jab in the ribs every now and then, part of growing up. Actually, I believe my english correction was incorrect anyway, Capt.Jim set the record straight on that issue already I believe. And now... Back to headers on 88s __________________ I'd rather have a numbers matching poker hand.

04-20-2008, 04:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
Redog Alero Chapter Secretary Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newtown, PA Posts: 779	I just emailed Hedman about headers # 58160. Hopefully I'll get a reply soon. My 307 manifolds are leaking more and more Follow the link in my other post __________________ Me 2000 Alero running 14's 1985 Delta 88 w/1968 350 rocket 2005 Nissan Altima (her's)

04-20-2008, 05:43 PM	#12 (permalink)
Olds64 Landyacht Club President Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lawton, OK Posts: 1,657	I know this company makes headers for the earlier B bodies. I don't know if they would fit though. http://www.dougsheaders.com/prod/ex/...ngerCarHeaders Seems to me that a set of "shorty" headers would be the way to go. However, I have never installed headers before. I did help my buddy change header gaskets on the 81 Camaro he had. I recall he was changing those about once every DAY! __________________ "Some men are Baptists, others Catholics. My father was an OLDSMOBILE man." Ralphie Billingsley A Christmas Story 1983 "We rei-eign, supreme, ooooh god! Burrito supreme, and a chicken supreme, and a CUTLASS SUPREME!" Tenacious D 2007

04-20-2008, 09:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
J-(Chicago) Seasoned beater pilot. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,588	I got it all figured out. Abody full lengths will work. There are 2 frame braces that have to be removed to install them however. __________________ I'd rather have a numbers matching poker hand.

04-21-2008, 05:09 AM	#14 (permalink)
Olds64 Landyacht Club President Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lawton, OK Posts: 1,657	Cool! When you do the job make sure you take some pics and post them so we can check it out! At least let us see the finished product. That will be TOTALLY SWEET! __________________ "Some men are Baptists, others Catholics. My father was an OLDSMOBILE man." Ralphie Billingsley A Christmas Story 1983 "We rei-eign, supreme, ooooh god! Burrito supreme, and a chicken supreme, and a CUTLASS SUPREME!" Tenacious D 2007

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