67' Delta 88 Conv

[Delta Bluz]

Hi, new member here. I just bought a 1967 Delta 88 Convertible and was wondering if anyone might have production numbers?

(I've been unable to find anything on the net)


Thanks,
Kevin
Mill Creek, WA

[Oldsguy]

Kevin, welcome to our site. I am at work now but have a reference at home that I can get you the numbers later if nobody else gets them to you today.

[Delta Bluz]

BTW, I've heard that this is the same year, make & model that Teddy Kennedy drove off the Chappaquidic (sp?) Bridge? True?

Also, it was 1st owned by the mayor of a small town north of Seattle who only drove it in parades & to shows. Unfortunately, the prior owner left it out in the elements for the last few years, so it needs a new interior.

I sent an application in to "Overhaulin" and will let the board know if we are picked.

[Oldsfan]

'67 Delta 88 convertible production was 2,447.

Kennedy's car was a '67 Delmont Town Sedan.

Paul

[Delta Bluz]

Thanks!

[Oldsguy]

Oldsfan, I think you mis-read by one line, or else my reference is wrong. There were 2,477 2-dr Holiday hardtops built and 14,471 2-dr convertables built.

[Topless7388]

I am also in search of production numbers for my '73 Delta 88 convertible. Where can I find ANY info on this car? I haven't found hardly any info on this era of car. It seems like the early 70's Delta's are a bastard car or something. If I had a Cutlass it would be no problem. I am also interested in finding engine specs (bore, stroke, etc.). I'm a gearhead and like to know what I'm driving inside and out. So far this site seems to be a wealth of knowledge.

Thanks,
Charles

[Oldsfan]

I'll have to recheck my numbers. The book was in one room and the computer was in another. But I have a hard time believing that there were more convertibles built than hardtops. That is not usually the case.

Paul

[Oldsfan]

Well, here's the deal on the production numbers. I originally consulted my Encyclopedia of American Cars by Richard Langworth. It has been printed various times over the past 25 years. I find it to be pretty accurate and it lists 2,447 convertibles and 14,471 Holiday coupes.

I just checked the Standard Catalog of Oldsmobile and the numbers are reversed (so are the Town Sedan and Holiday Sedan). That book is riddled with errors and I don't trust it any further than I can throw it. I also checked Cars of Oldsmobile by Dennis Casteele and it lists these same numbers.

Then I checked Setting the Pace, the book from within Oldsmobile, and it lists the original set of numbers. I am taking those numbers as correct, and standing by my position that convertibles were almost always, if not always, produced in lower numbers than hardtops, both due to their increased original cost and impracticality.

I think if you contact GM and asked for one of those information packets they provide for a fee, these are the production figures you would be given.

Paul

[Oldsguy]

I think I agree with you. At first, it seemed plausible to me since they were listed as HOLIDAY coupes. But I think your reasoning is correct, there has always been less convertables built and sold than hardtops or sedans. Good research work by the way.

[Delta Bluz]

thanks for the help!

does your book show if all convertibles had the 425ci 375hp engine?

[Oldsfan]

All '67 98s and Deltas came with 425s. Delmonts came with 330s, with 425s as an option (but you didn't ask about those, did ya?).

As far as horsepower, the 375hp Starfire engine was an option in all '67 98s, Deltas and Delmonts. This engine came with dual exhaust (with that rare driver's side manifold and equally rare half moon shaped column shifter rod crossing the exhaust pipe over to the tranmission). Not many cars were equipped with the Starfire 425.

The standard 425 in Deltas was the 310hp Super Rocket. This was a 10.25 compression, 2bbl carb engine and had a small, black air cleaner*, I believe.

Optional at extra cost on Deltas was the 365 Super Rocket. Same engine as the 310hp, but with a 4bbl. This engine would have had a large, red air cleaner*.

Optional at no extra cost (on automatics - standard with 3-on-the-tree) in Deltas was the 300hp Super Rocket. Same engine as the 310hp, but with lower 9.0 compression. Same small, black air cleaner*.

*Unless equipped with the Climatic Combustion Control system, which used a square, black dual snorkel air cleaner.

Paul

[frdmftr]

New to site also. I just got my 1st Olds too. (67 Delta 88 Convert).

I found a very comprehensive pile of information on Wikipedia. As with anything in print, accuracy may be an issue. What I found had enough 'makes sense' to it that I would at least use it for reference.

Give it a try- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmobile_V8_engine

FrdmFtr

[frdmftr]

Paul, you mentioned the 'rare' parts below. The Delta 88 I just bought is a 425ci, dual exhaust, w/both pipes going to rear from right side of car. I assume its what you are referring to. The car is in Seattle right now or I would verify them.

I don't have the stock intake, carb, or cleaner (Edelbrock equipped).

"As far as horsepower, the 375hp Starfire engine was an option in all '67 98s, Deltas and Delmonts. This engine came with dual exhaust (with that rare driver's side manifold and equally rare half moon shaped column shifter rod crossing the exhaust pipe over to the tranmission). Not many cars were equipped with the Starfire 425."

Paul[/quote]

Here are a couple of pics.

I'm open to observations/comments/suggestions, especially what 'not' to do.

Thanks,
Dave

[Oldsguy]

Nice looking car Dave, I am glad to see more interest and participation in the B bodies, both 88's and the 98's as well as all the derivatives. It is actually sort of surprising to see this surge and a welcome development.

[frdmftr]

Thanks for the support. I have very deep roots concerning autos. My Dad and his best friend (who passed away 56 years ago) put together the largest 'private' collection of cars in the world. I can honestly say its in my DNA.
www.lemaymuseum.org

My dad was with me when I checked out the car. When the garage door opened, I knew right away this was hidden gem.

Later,
Dave

[Kennybill]

Hello, From the book "Setting the Pace," 1967 Delta conv. #2447, Base price was $3646. About the 73 Delta conv. AKA Royale, #7181 made, Base price $5213.

[Oldsfan]

Originally Posted by frdmftr

Paul, you mentioned the 'rare' parts below. The Delta 88 I just bought is a 425ci, dual exhaust, w/both pipes going to rear from right side of car. I assume its what you are referring to. The car is in Seattle right now or I would verify them.

Dave,

Sorry for the delay. I was in Daytona. Only getting around to checking the boards now that I'm back at work.

Factory dual exhaust will not come down the right side of the car and crossover. The left bank comes the whole way down the left side of the car. Uses a special manifold on the driver's side. The problem they ran into was that the automatic transmission selector linkage hit the pipe on the driver's side, so they came up with a rod (lever, whatever you want to call it...) with a 1/2 moon bend in it to clear the pipe. These are extremely rare and the last time I saw one advertised it was above $250. I have never seen one in person. Not many full size Oldses came with duals in '67. This is basically the same dual system the previous Starfires used, but almost all of them were bucket seat/console cars, so the column shift linkage was not an issue.

[Kennybill]

I have one of the shifter half moon linkage levers. It was on a 1969 Olds "Hearse" that I parted out. The car was NOT dual exhausted but did have the dual exhaust lever on it. One of these days I will dig it out an take a picture of it. I have made a couple for my 98's. Later, Ken

[67delmontman]

i got a 1967 delmont and im trying to find production numbers on it it is a 4 door hardtop with the 425 and yes this is the type that ted drove off the the bridge

[Oldsguy]

Welcome to our site. I will try to remember to check for you. I encourage you to go ahead and start your own thread, introduce yourself in the introductions sub-forum. That way people won't miss your entrance. You mention Ted drove off the bridge, was that in "excellent adventure"?

[67delmontman]

no ted kennedy drove into the chapadquik in 69