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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Shelbyville,TN.
Posts: 11
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Another Newbie with a 'barn find' haha!
OK, where to start. I just bought a 1968 Olds Cutlass Convertible. I'll be searching for more info about what kind. It has S decals and trim, but I didn't see anything that said Supreme. I bought it from the ORIGINAL OWNER who bought it off the Nashville Hippodrome Olds showroom floor in 1968. Unfortunately, it was titled to one of his relatives in Washington for a while till he got the car back. Sooo...original owner, but it's been titled three times and I'll be the fourth. I don't know yet if it has the original 350 4 barrel, but it looks original.
The car had been sitting underneath a cedar tree for the last 12 years! I'm not a professional mechanic, amateur only, but lucky for me a friend of mine with experience came down from Missouri yesterday and has helped get it cranking. Today, we are putting in the plugs etc. and might actually drive it ( granny style only, no racing haha ). I found this forum because I was looking for a diagram for the vacuum hoses. From the other threads, I gather that I better buy a manual. We'll just wing it today. I'll try to get some before and after pictures up soon. Basically, I took a 2,500.00 gamble and it looks like I have a VERY straight car--no rust or bondo, perfect dash and glass. It has one dent on the back panel and the rats have done major damage inside the car. But at least the rats left the visual interior ( seats ) alone. I guess the old man I bought it from at least picked the best type of tree to park it under..haha! Any advice on this car would be MUCH appreciated, and if anyone can recommend a Cutlass car club in Middle Tennessee I'll probably be joining them soon. Peace, Atdog |
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3
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you lucky dog! check out Original Parts Group Inc web site. also 442.com and Oldsmobility.com for lots of info.
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Shelbyville,TN.
Posts: 11
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Some before pics....
These pics aren't the greatest and they don't show how I found the car (I took a lot of the junk out of it before the pictures), but this will give ya'll an idea of what I'm working with.
I'll try to get some after pictures this evening. We put in a LOT of work yesterday. Peace, Atdog |
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Lees Summit MO
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The mold makes the exterior look so grungy, I know it will look so much better after cleaning. I bet most of your effort will be in cleaning/repairing the interior after the car has spent so much time under a tree, it's obvious there was a LOT of moisture to deal with. Good luck.
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 263
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Looks like a great project! I'll second the "Lucky Dog" comment. The 68's are one of my favorite years, especially the convertibles! Incase no ones said it: "Welcome to the site!"
Don |
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Hot Wheels
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
Posts: 20
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1978 Cutlass Salon 442 (bought 4-13-08) Needs tons of work--140K miles--5 speed manual 1989 Dodge Dakota Shelby #1298 318 V8--4 speed AT--White--Over 210K miles 2005 Pontiac GTO--Midnight Blue Metallic LS2 V8--6 speed MT--over 45K miles |
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Hot Wheels
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
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Thanks for those links. Maybe I can find something for my project.
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1978 Cutlass Salon 442 (bought 4-13-08) Needs tons of work--140K miles--5 speed manual 1989 Dodge Dakota Shelby #1298 318 V8--4 speed AT--White--Over 210K miles 2005 Pontiac GTO--Midnight Blue Metallic LS2 V8--6 speed MT--over 45K miles |
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Alero Chapter Secretary
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Newtown, PA
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Really nice find. I don't see any rust in those pics either. Welcome to the site.
I have a 68 Olds 350 in my car, so I'm a bit bias when I say, it's a really good motor ![]() BTW eBay can be you're best friend.
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nice ride. don't lose sight of your vision. make her pretty again...
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Shelbyville,TN.
Posts: 11
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Thanks to everyone!
My garage is a disaster, but we finally got it running this evening. Even took it for a short spin! I have soooo many questions to ask but it will have to wait for later.
Right now, I'm tired, hungry, smelly, dirty, and damn near braindead. But I feel great anyway .To flatout442: I just live down the road in Shelbyville. We'll hook up soon. Peace, Atdog |
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 263
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Looks a whole lot better!!
And running!! Sounds like you had a GOOD day! Congrats!!Don |
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 20
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Wow-nice find! Sure is cool that these cars are still out there to be found. I am glad you 'rescued' it, it could've sat another 20 years and then wouldn't be much to restore! Good luck!
Also-nice garage! |
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 175
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nice.... do up all the brakes, the parts are all available at carquest, drums , cylinders, rubber hoses, steel lines, shoes and hardware. If you have an extra 600 or so do a disc changeover on the front, I didn't have the $$ so I kept the drums all around, I think I spent about 600 on beer though.....
have the radiator tanked out before the hot weather hits, change the rubber hoses and the thermostat. Overheating in a nice car like that sucks. But most important, enjoy!! Tom |
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Landyacht Club President
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lawton, OK
Posts: 1,242
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AWSOME! I always wondered who the luckiest man alive was.
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"Some men are Baptists, others Catholics. My father was an OLDSMOBILE man." Ralphie Billingsley A Christmas Story 1983 "We rei-eign, supreme, ooooh god! Burrito supreme, and a chicken supreme, and a CUTLASS SUPREME!" Tenacious D 2007 |
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Lees Summit MO
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That car doesn't even look the same in that second set of pictures. It cleaned up real well! I would do almost anything for a free standing garage like the one you have, nice. You have to get rid of those white wall tires though, yuck.
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Plano, TX
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WOW! What a find, ATDOG!
![]() That 68 has lots of potential, esp. for the price! A good washing made a world of difference. The top looks to be in surprisingly good shape also. I am sure the cowl, lower fenders, doors, and quarters are full of leaves and dirt so it would be good to get them cleaned out to prevent retaining moisture that will cause rust. The Parts Place and Fusick also are good parts houses in addition to OPG. Sure glad you saved her and got her running so soon! The uncurable disease of restoration has began... Best of luck in your new project!!! Rob
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Hot Wheels
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
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Sounds good. I spoke to the owner (or former owner) of the 442 I bought. He says it runs well, but recommended towing it just in case. I'm going to pick it up Wednesday morning. I'm sure it won't look as good as yours, but I'll post some pics anyway.
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1978 Cutlass Salon 442 (bought 4-13-08) Needs tons of work--140K miles--5 speed manual 1989 Dodge Dakota Shelby #1298 318 V8--4 speed AT--White--Over 210K miles 2005 Pontiac GTO--Midnight Blue Metallic LS2 V8--6 speed MT--over 45K miles |
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 126
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Nice car man. That cleaned up real well.
I too love the 68's, and I love your garage. Just make sure you do a lot of "catchup" on all the maintnence. |
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Shelbyville,TN.
Posts: 11
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WOW!! Thanks for all the positive replies!
At first I thought I was taking a gamble with it, but I think I did all right.
Just picked up a new alternator and belts tonight...a little bit at a time. I was wrong about the bondo. There are two dents on the back. One has bondo and the other dent could probably be popped out and looking pretty good if a can find a good bodyshop. At least no bondo from rust holes. Speaking of rust, haha, I did find some small holes in the drivers side floor panel when I ripped the carpet out. Probably rusted from all the moisture from the holes in the top, combined with all the rat piss. Speaking of rats, it turns out they did like the taste of vinyl seats, so I'll be looking for suggestions on interior restoration- door panels, seats, carpet. At least the dash is cherry. I couldn't believe it. Now some questions---why is the distributor coil bracket on the front right of the engine, yet there isn't a distributor wire long enough to reach it. I had to custom make one. And , dang it, why did they have to put the #2 spark plug right behind the A/C compressor? That one caused a bloody knuckle or two. Anyway, I want to drive it NOW! Ahhhhhhh! Thanks for all the advice, and I'm going to keep giving updates. Peace, Atdog |
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Lees Summit MO
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A picture would help about the distributor bracket, I can't imagine that. And, they didn't put the spark plug behind the A/C compressor, they put the A/C comopressor in FRONT of the spark plug. I hate when they do that .
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Landyacht Club President
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lawton, OK
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The fun begins.
If you post a picture of that bracket I am sure someone could identify it. I know Oldsmobiles sometimes had a bracket on top of the intake manifold near the front of the engine. I am not sure whay they were used for. They might have been the lift point for the engine when they put it into the car at the factory. At least, I assume that is what they were used for.
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"Some men are Baptists, others Catholics. My father was an OLDSMOBILE man." Ralphie Billingsley A Christmas Story 1983 "We rei-eign, supreme, ooooh god! Burrito supreme, and a chicken supreme, and a CUTLASS SUPREME!" Tenacious D 2007 |
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Oldsdruid
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Danville Vajenya, the Last Capital of Dixie
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Music City Rockets based out of Nashville. Y'all must be under a rock not to know about them, they just hosted the OCA Nationals.
http://www.oldsclub.com/chapters.htm...UTHEAST%20ZONE
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Hot Wheels
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
Posts: 20
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Maybe not hiding under a rock, but not looking for clubs is one way to miss them.
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1978 Cutlass Salon 442 (bought 4-13-08) Needs tons of work--140K miles--5 speed manual 1989 Dodge Dakota Shelby #1298 318 V8--4 speed AT--White--Over 210K miles 2005 Pontiac GTO--Midnight Blue Metallic LS2 V8--6 speed MT--over 45K miles |
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Shelbyville,TN.
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Haha Oldsguy! You're right, compressor in front of the #2 !
I just got the car 16 days ago, so I didn't have much time to look for a club. Hell, I just found you guys this weekend! But I appreciate the link Rocketraider...that helps a lot. I'm going to include a couple more before pics. One of which shows that 'mystery bracket'. The other pic shows the before trunk; and that pic is AFTER I emptied out a trash can full of rats nest. Geez. Olds64: It looks like the bracket would be a good fit for that coil (?) Last edited by Atdog : 04-15-2008 at 07:17 PM. |
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Portland, OR
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If it's the horseshoe shaped bracket I'm pretty sure it's just what the factory used for lifting the engine. But hopefully an expert will chime in. Now I'm curious. I've always assumed that's what it was for. Would be nice to know for sure.
Wow!! You did have a mess in that trunk! ![]() ![]() I once leaned in close to have at look at the odd wire cable in the trunk of a Cutlass in a field. I was about 2 feet from it when I realized it had eyes!![]() Turned out the 'cable' was a 4' black SNAKE!!! He probably jumped as high as I did when I slammed the trunk lid.Don |
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Administrator
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Lees Summit MO
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Eowwww! scary!
That bracket is in fact used for engine lifting. Many people remove it when doing maintenance on the engine, it looks ugly in my opinion and if I am lifting an engine I use manifold bolts on the back and front with an engine leveler. Sometimes I use a bolt on the front of the engine like one used for the accessory brackets. I guess the only time I have used one of those brackets is when I yanked a complete non-molested engine from a junk yard, cables, hoses, accessories and all.
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