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Old May 9th, 2014, 01:21 PM
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1971 Olds 442 W-30 Convertible (not mine)

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http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/4461866671.html

Collector owned (and former President of the region's Olds club) - this is a very rare 1971 Olds 442 Convertible that was ordered with the very desirable W-30 performance package. Those in the Olds camp know what this car is and how rare it is, it's only one of 78 automatic W-30 convertibles built in 71 (how many are left). This is a frame off restored car - done by a well known restorer that's had plenty of magazine coverage - (Bunjie's Hot Rod Garage) he knows his stuff. NOM (but date correct) 455 engine built to exacting W-30 specs inside and out, the original Turbo 400 is hanging off the back of the engine as is the original Olds Posi rear. The Matador Red paint is stunning and the shine is show worthy, panels hang well and the gaps are very good. The 442 Stripes, OAI hood (orig), and white convertible top tell people that this is a special car - this car was invited to the Greenwich, CT Concours d'Elegance in 2003 and has been driven very little since. It has been shown on the cover of "Cruisin' New England" and the "Improper Bostonian" magazines with associated articles. This is a very loaded car - options include (besides the W-30 option), power steering, power disc brakes, tilt-wheel, AM-FM with an 8-track player (original GM 8-track still in the plastic), power windows, power locks, Air Conditioning, power top, Cruise Control, etc. (you get the idea). OKAY - so some high-lights >> It was an 80,000 original mile car with full documentation including 2 build sheets. The car was originally owned by an 82-year-old Kansas City woman and had a three-year complete frame off restoration using mostly NOS parts to obtain the highest possible level of correctness. The car has been driven about 2,000 miles since completion of the restoration and has been retired for preservation reasons, although it still goes to a few select events. This rare W-30 convertible is believed to be one of, if not the last W-30 made in 1971 as the car was built the second week of July 1971 and production ceased on July 10th that year. The car has a very long list of options totaling $ 6,209.41, and was a very expensive and heavily optioned W-30 in 1971. Asking $140,000 obo
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Old May 9th, 2014, 01:33 PM
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Kind of high $$ for a nice car that's not original. Being close to the end of production year doesn't make it that much rarer IMO.
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Old May 9th, 2014, 01:54 PM
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I love it when people say "how many left?"

Well, according to the auction houses, there's always one passing through. Despite their rarity, they are not hard to find.
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Lansing car "with 2 build sheets" and I am sure Bigfoot or Sasquatch is sitting in the back seat.

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Old May 9th, 2014, 02:30 PM
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By the description of who owned it, I would suspect it may be authentic.
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Old May 9th, 2014, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 1970cs
Lansing car "with 2 build sheets" and I am sure Bigfoot or Sasquatch is sitting in the back seat.
I'm pretty sure that in this case 'build' means 'broadcast' cards. I seriously doubt they'd make an exception for this car.

Isn't Bigfoot and Sasquatch the same thing?

Eric, I'm not doubting the car has some authenticity, but it's not original by any stretch of the imagination - especially with a non matching block. That hurts valuation considerably. Wouldn't matter if it was a 1, 2, or 10 year body off resto and how many OEM NOS parts were used.
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Old May 10th, 2014, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Allan R
I'm pretty sure that in this case 'build' means 'broadcast' cards. I seriously doubt they'd make an exception for this car.

Isn't Bigfoot and Sasquatch the same thing?

Eric, I'm not doubting the car has some authenticity, but it's not original by any stretch of the imagination - especially with a non matching block. That hurts valuation considerably. Wouldn't matter if it was a 1, 2, or 10 year body off resto and how many OEM NOS parts were used.
Just to clarify my sarcasm, I was pointing out the supposed expertise of the quote! As we all know that Fisher broadcast cards have been found and a small handful of assembly line chassis buildup sheets.

On the Bigfoot, the thought crossed my mind of this.
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I'm very familiar with this car. This guy is a collector of these cars, I'm pretty certain it's "real". It's a nice car, it was shipped to the Nats in Bowling Green along with my car 6-7 years ago.
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Old May 10th, 2014, 11:12 AM
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There's no question it's a nice car. We all see that. What we don't see is the valuation on a non original car. It's an incredibly nice 80,000 mile overhauled car. One nice thing about selling and buying - the seller can ask what he wants. Only a buyer who agrees with the seller will pay that amount.

Not even BJ auction 442 W30's in the 1971 category have brought that kind of $$$. A gold one like this sold for 84,700.00 (which includes buyers commission), BUT it had the original drive train and almost the same options.

I wish your friend well in his sale.
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Old May 10th, 2014, 01:09 PM
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Right, I think it's too much money, the NOM really takes away from from the value. I guess it's worth what somebody will pay. But...mark my words...10 years from now or so, there will be a LOT of excellent cars on the market and not enough people to buy them. I have four and I'm older. Most guys I know have multiple cars and are older. We will all sell eventually.........
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Old May 10th, 2014, 06:12 PM
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10 years from now I won't really care. My car is in excellent condition and appraised as such. No plans to sell even though I'm older too. Someone who wants it will have to pay stupid money to pry it out of my hands, and I just don't see that happening. I'd rather give the car to my son to enjoy (and he's much younger) before I'd sell it to anyone else.
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