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Old November 17th, 2013, 07:42 AM
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1970 "Plum Crazy" 442 w30 convertible unfinished resto. - $75K

I have decided to sell the above mentioned car. I judge the body off restoration to be approx. 70% complete. The original drivetrain to include the engine, trans and differential are in the car and completely rebuilt. All body work with the exception of repairs needed on the hood have been completed and the car is in primer. The car has stayed local to the Norfolk / Va Beach area since delivered to Phillips Oldsmobile when new. This has allowed me to document the complete ownership history on the car including signed statements from each owner including the owner of the dealership. To my knowledge these people can still be contacted for serious buyers looking for information / confirmation. I have no factory documentation, only the history, and some misc registrations, a photo provided by the second registered owner, and pictures of the car as it was taken apart for restoration. The "Plum Crazy" color is hard to believe, but verified by the previous owners and original paint in locations intentionally left un-molested. The car is an automatic (his & hers shifter) with air, power discs up front, tic-toc tac, power windows and more that I am probably forgetting. There is basically no interior with the exception of the center console. I do have one correct bucket seat and a back seat that would need restoration. I have had the car since March 2007 and can answer any questions you might have as well as provide pictures etc.

Asking price is $75,000.

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Old November 17th, 2013, 08:17 AM
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Very interesting 442. I've seen the option codes for special order colors, both in-house and outside, but never seen one. What code or symbol is on the trim tag?
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Old November 17th, 2013, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by anthonyP
Very interesting 442. I've seen the option codes for special order colors, both in-house and outside, but never seen one. What code or symbol is on the trim tag?

Thanks, has a single dash as shown in picture.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 08:27 AM
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Wow Richard I am very surprised you are selling Good luck my friend I am sure there is someone that would love to finish what you have begun.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 08:29 AM
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Yup single dash ( - ) for special lower body color and ( A ) for white top.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by GAOldsman
Wow Richard I am very surprised you are selling Good luck my friend I am sure there is someone that would love to finish what you have begun.
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I'd rather not sell but a couple of good reasons that add up to the "perfect storm" scenario. If it doesn't sell I won't be heart broken!

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Sorry to hear your selling, hopefully everything works out.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by oldcutlass
Sorry to hear your selling, hopefully everything works out.
Thanks, much appreciated.

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I've been following this car too. A very cool car and you've done a great job on the documentation
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Old November 17th, 2013, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by allyolds68
I've been following this car too. A very cool car and you've done a great job on the documentation
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Being local made the car fairly easy to document, and it was really interesting to talk with the previous owners.

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Old November 17th, 2013, 10:19 AM
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About as close to my "dream Olds" as can get, with exception to the trans! Good luck with the sale! A one of a kind car for sure!
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Old November 17th, 2013, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ent72olds
About as close to my "dream Olds" as can get, with exception to the trans! Good luck with the sale! A one of a kind car for sure!
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I will hate to see it go, but look forward to seeing it completed and on the road again, even if by someone else.

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Old December 7th, 2013, 07:11 AM
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Well, listed my car on eBay last night, definitely mixed feelings about it. I guess if it sells, thats good, if it doesn't, thats good too. Guess thats what you call a win - win...
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Originally Posted by 442
Well, listed my car on eBay last night, definitely mixed feelings about it. I guess if it sells, thats good, if it doesn't, thats good too. Guess thats what you call a win - win...


I found this on eBay, cool car for sure, but I had no idea this could have been done . I am sure you will do well with selling your car.
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Old December 7th, 2013, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by kjr442
I found this on eBay, cool car for sure, but I had no idea this could have been done . I am sure you will do well with selling your car.
Very interesting, a couple of months ago I heard about a possible orange 442 coming from the same dealer as mine, Phillips Oldsmobile in Va Beach. Any idea which dealer yours came from?

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Originally Posted by 442
Very interesting, a couple of months ago I heard about a possible orange 442 coming from the same dealer as mine, Phillips Oldsmobile in Va Beach. Any idea which dealer yours came from?

Richard.


My car was built real close to home, Arlington Texas. if I remember correctly it was sold at Willis Olds of Dallas.
You sir are a lucky man to have such a car.
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Thanks, I think it was a once in a lifetime find, under different circumstances I would absolutely hold on to it. You have a rare and awesome car yourself! I hope to own another 442 in the future, one I wouldn't be afraid to drive when it was completed.
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Best of luck for you in selling a very unique car. I really like the history part of any car. Paper can be faked but good verifiable history can't be beat. Also, like alot of guys on here. I sure wish I could afford it. ~BOB
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Old December 7th, 2013, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Carshinebob
Best of luck for you in selling a very unique car. I really like the history part of any car. Paper can be faked but good verifiable history can't be beat. Also, like alot of guys on here. I sure wish I could afford it. ~BOB
Thanks Bob,
The history and background of the cars really make the hobby interesting I think. Chasing down the information on the car is half the fun!
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Old December 13th, 2013, 09:55 PM
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I have no factory documentation

Asking price is $75,000.
Ill have to assume that is why it missed your price by $53,000 and some change
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Old December 14th, 2013, 08:49 AM
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very cool car with a great story! who would of thought a factory plum crazy purple 442!! best of luck with the sale.
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Isn't "Plum Crazy" a Mopar color term?
Is that the correct term for THIS car's color?

Pretty yoo-nee-kew I must say.
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Plum Crazy = Dodge

In Violet = Plymouth
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Old December 14th, 2013, 01:56 PM
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Thanks,
Hope it will sell pretty soon, but if not I will have more time to possibly find more photos or other information on the car from the early seventies. The first registered owner said that she thought Miss Virginia may have ridden in the car when it was on loan from the dealership for a parade in Norfolk. If this is true, there should be some kind of photos or articles in the library from newspaper reports etc. I have called them and they will do a search but not sure how diligently. I think I will go down myself to look through the microfische archives.

I have also tried to contact the former Miss Virginia 1970 (Deborah Shelton), but I do not travel in circles high enough to accomplish that...at least so far!

Yes the "Plum Crazy" color from the factory is the standout feature of this car, at least in my mind. I was sceptical when I bought the car as to the validity of this claim, but after speaking with several people directly involved with the car when it was new, I was convinced. The owner of the dealership described a "special paint" program that allowed him to order any color he wanted for $50.00 extra, his cost. When the body off frame restoration began, we looked for original paint in locations that would not likely have been touched when re-painted by the previous owner. This included the top of the windshield frame which was wrapped in the original vinyl material from the factory.

While I am entirely convinced of the validity of this car, nothing beats the factory documentation. My goal is to document the car as thoroughly and as accurately as possible, since I most likely will not find the broadcast card or other factory documentation.
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Can you posted the ebay link? I want to see better pictures of what a unique car like this looks like.
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Originally Posted by Joffroi
Can you posted the ebay link? I want to see better pictures of what a unique car like this looks like.
Sure,
The eBay pictures show mostly the current state of the car, the second link shows many other random pictures of the car from when I bought it, and tear down / restoration photos.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/301037281743...84.m1560.l2649

https://plus.google.com/101121652715...ts/4mGrgU2FNmP

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How did it end up missing one bucket seat? There was a good chance there was a paper inside,behind the upper panel. If all the pieces to be missing,why the seat?
Love the car.
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Old December 22nd, 2013, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 507OLDS
How did it end up missing one bucket seat? There was a good chance there was a paper inside,behind the upper panel. If all the pieces to be missing,why the seat?
Love the car.
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It was missing the whole interior when I bought it. The PO said he had a falling out with the body shop who repainted the car and that he got it back minus the interior. He said they had closed up shop permanently, and left the car outside where he had it towed back to his house. The one bucket seat with the car is one he picked up somewhere, it's the right upholstery design but wrong color. I suppose he put it in so he could drive the car!

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