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Old 01-30-2008, 03:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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olds 76 442 455

hey guys i'm new here but i have some thing that i thought someone would be interested in. recently i recieved a 76 olds cutlass 442 with the origonal 445 in it. It has good interior, and an ok body. but it was used as a race car the motor has been bored and stroked the cam has been shaved and the push rods have been costom made, the heads are shaved 3/32nds? aliuminum intake, hooker headers, 650 holley carb punched out to about a 750, 12:1 compression, k&n filter, rock crusher tranny, mr. gasket shifter, and was ran in the nhra super comp at 8.90sec 160mph? also has moser axles. we recently replaced the lower bearings. but I've found that the car is more muscle than i ever wanted. i've been looking for something a little more streetable. I would be glad to consider any offers, but would rather trade for a mopar, or maybe both. i'll try to answer any ?s "bring all offers" thanks
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Old 01-31-2008, 06:04 AM   #2 (permalink)
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1969 Olds Cutlass convertible $5750 Just located this Cutlass very solid car older restoration Pics at vintageozarks.com
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Old 02-03-2008, 02:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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How about some pics ?
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Old 02-03-2008, 10:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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by chance, any particular interest in a 1977 Dodge Monaco 2 door hardtop?
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Old 02-03-2008, 10:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Is it a Royal Monaco like the old Chicago police cars?
Or a regular Monaco with the split grille like the Oldsmobiles?
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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........ i'll try to answer any ?s ........
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........ It has good interior ........
Running an 8.90 index?

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........ has been bored and stroked ........
What are the numbers?.

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........ the cam has been shaved ........
Explain.

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........ aliuminum intake ........
Which one?

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........ 650 holley carb punched out to about a 750 ........
How was this done? 750 CFM, sounds like a good "street" carb. How did it do in competition?

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........ 12:1 compression ........
Capable of turning, well under, 8.90 ETs?

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........ rock crusher ........ mr. gasket shifter ........
In brackets?

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Old 02-03-2008, 11:35 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Is it a Royal Monaco like the old Chicago police cars?
Or a regular Monaco with the split grille like the Oldsmobiles?
I'd have to look at it again.

What I do know, is that they are extremely rare (do not read necessarily valuable) and there were two body styles of the 2 door hardtop in '77. this one is the rarer body style...the rear ends are different is the only noticeable difference however.

Conveniantly, I need a driver's side tail lamp cover, and it does not exist anywhere on the internet. I found a passengers side one once...that does no good.
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:42 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The nose looks like this one...except it being a two door of course...and not with the nifty cop colors.

the rear of this Monaco the tailights are vertical, the other body style has horizontal taillights.
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
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FWIW: The following image is an example of an Olds powered "Super Gas" car.



'86 442 with a 496. Looks just like it did, in February of '87.

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Yeah, I like the split grille better naturally
Did you try billions and trillions for your tail light yet?
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no....there's not even another one of these cars in this whole valley for me to STEAL one from!
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Old 02-06-2008, 07:17 AM   #12 (permalink)
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How about some pics ?
can you tell me how to post pics on this site?
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:33 AM   #13 (permalink)
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You can put them in your post as attachements, down below the composition window there is a section called attach files, manage attachments. Just select that option and follow the directions to upload the files to the site.
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:42 AM   #14 (permalink)
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no....there's not even another one of these cars in this whole valley for me to STEAL one from!

I`m parting out a 77 Monaco Cop car. Email me a pic of what your taillight looks like and I`ll see if it`s the same.

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Old 02-07-2008, 10:05 AM   #15 (permalink)
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heres some pics

the pics make the paint seem better than it is looks kind of like a home job that could use more sanding. the hood scoop has been fiberglassed to the car, but has a wave affect that would also need more sanding. As far as i can tell there doesn't seem to be alot of bondo anywhere else. i also have some street tires and some 15x12 steel rims (rusty) that we burnt the slicks up on. if anyone wants more pics or info just send me your email. vin# G37T6M428229
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Old 02-07-2008, 10:19 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Running an 8.90 index?
I never raced the car my self because i like to watch more than race I'am more of a street guy but i did take it out on a died end road and at 5500rpms everyone there said that i pulled the front tires of the ground about 10" for 35 feet by the time i got ready to shift into 3rd i was running out of room. the man i bought it from said it would do about 160 in the 1/4

What are the numbers?. listed in with the pics


Explain.


Which one?


How was this done? 750 CFM, sounds like a good "street" carb. How did it do in competition?
I relize that if i was to take the car on the track i would probaly tear it up (A man must know his limitations of skill and wallet)

Capable of turning, well under, 8.90 ETs?
i belive so from what i have heard from other racers
Also it was origonally an automatic has hooker headers, and moser axles
If i didn't get them all let me know.
In brackets?

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I`m parting out a 77 Monaco Cop car. Email me a pic of what your taillight looks like and I`ll see if it`s the same.

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Will do, but if it's a 4 door then it wont work
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8.9 and no roll bar??????????? Where did this car run?????????
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Will do, but if it's a 4 door then it wont work

Ok, then it won`t work.
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Tower - Thanks for the pics. What are you asking for the car ?
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8.9 and no roll bar? ........
8.90 in the eighth would not need a roll bar.

The 8.90 he is talking about, would need a helluva lot more than a "roll bar".

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That 78 is a pretty Herculian body style. Especially with those wheels and tires. Good luck selling it.
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8.9 and no roll bar??????????? Where did this car run?????????
i forgot it has rollbar mounts under the front carpet and between the back seats. but after car sat awhile the previous owner sold the roll bar and fiberglass bumpers. to a friend
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Tower - Thanks for the pics. What are you asking for the car ?
i listed it here in hopes someone would make an offer. or tell me what they thought the car is worth. so that i would have an idea of what to sell it for locally. I thought the car would be worth around 10,000. but I don't live in a bubble. so don't be scared to make an offer. or tell me what you think. and if you live near atlanta stop by and cheak it out. i'm supposed to leave for a job in las vegas in a few weeks. so i would like to get it out so the wife doesn't have to deal with it thanks
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......... or tell me what they thought the car is worth ........
I don't know what a '76 442, in that condition, might be worth. There are other members here, that can give you an estimate. I can, however, give you an idea what it is not.

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......... or tell me what you think ........
OK. Beginning with your opening post:

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........ good interior ........
Interior of a Super Comp car would look something like the following:



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......... bored and stroked ........
Anyone who has a "bored and stroked" 455, would call it by its proper name. 470, 496, or 507, for instance.

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......... the cam has been shaved ........
Shaved? Normally, one would show the information from the cam card.

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......... push rods have been costom made ........
A normal part of a racing engine. Not worth mentioning.

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......... the heads are shaved 3/32nds? ........
Machine shops do not work in fractions. The number you were given should have been .093" if it had actually been done, which is highly doubtful. When describing the heads, anything other than flow numbers, is useless.

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