75 Cutlass Convertible..for $900????
February 24th, 2012, 08:42 AM
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75 Cutlass Convertible..for $900????
Not mine...This seems ridiculously cheap. Am I wrong? Just wanted anyone into these years of Cutlass to be aware. Located around Seattle
http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/2867367519.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/2867367519.html
February 24th, 2012, 09:16 AM
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Duh... I knew there were no more convertibles after 72 somewhere in my cluttered brain, but obviously wasn't able to pull up that file!
Sooooo....nevermind...???
Ya, $900 doesn't seem so cheap now does it?
Well, maybe a good parts car........if you could get it for a few hundred bucks.
Sooooo....nevermind...???
Ya, $900 doesn't seem so cheap now does it?
Well, maybe a good parts car........if you could get it for a few hundred bucks.
February 24th, 2012, 10:32 AM
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February 25th, 2012, 03:39 AM
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No one ever banned convertibles, and no one ever seriously proposed doing so. There were proposals to increase safety requirements on them, but nothing of consequence ever came of that.
GM may have stopped production of A-body convertibles after 1972, but it made them in the larger cars through 1975 and in the Cadillac Eldorado through 1976. The Corvette was offered as a convertible through 1975 and then began again in 1986. Chevy had resumed two years earlier, though, in 1984 with the Cavalier.
Chrysler, Dodge, and Ford were all similar in terms of timetable. The last Mustang convertible was in 1973, and then it was reoffered beginning in 1983. Chrysler started offering convertibles again in 1982 with the LeBaron and with the Dodge 400.
Production of convertibles, in spite of their popularity today among collectors, was never very high back in the day. By the early '70s, with increasing concerns about safety and increasing insurance rates, they began to fall out of favor with the public, and a marketing decision was made to stop offering them. That lasted about 10 years in most cases, and we've had them again ever since.
February 25th, 2012, 06:10 AM
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You could still get MGs, Triumphs, Fiat Spyders, Porsche 911s, etc. throughout all or part of that period.
So there was no "ban" in any way, shape, or form.
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February 25th, 2012, 06:11 AM
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Good point. I didn't even think of the foreign makes.
Remember, though, that 72cutlass455 didn't say that there WAS a ban on convertibles. He said that manufacturers stopped making them in anticipation of there being a ban. But I don't think that's true. We were never close to any kind of law or government decree or something like that that would have made them illegal. The ceasing of their manufacture for a while was just a business decision.
Remember, though, that 72cutlass455 didn't say that there WAS a ban on convertibles. He said that manufacturers stopped making them in anticipation of there being a ban. But I don't think that's true. We were never close to any kind of law or government decree or something like that that would have made them illegal. The ceasing of their manufacture for a while was just a business decision.
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February 25th, 2012, 06:27 AM
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At the risk of getting another thread locked:
Not to be Norm-esque here, but... Yeah, he said that.
I'll stop now
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February 25th, 2012, 06:43 AM
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Well, the implication of his comment ("the convertible was banned in anticipation of a law") as I read it is that he's implying there was a self-imposed ban on convertibles by the manufacturers. I agree that there wasn't one, imposed by manufacturers or anyone else. There was never a law banning them, and he doesn't say there was.
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February 20th, 2014, 11:48 AM
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True, but the targa was made from about 1967 onward.
American automakers did not stop making convertibles and begin making Targa-type near-convertibles with roll bars - they just stopped making convertibles entirely, with no effort to make anything remotely like them.
They dropped the whole concept rather than try to anticipate and work within a retrospectively-imagined new law, but it was entirely voluntary, and the "new law" is entirely imaginary. There never was a law, and there never was even a bill that failed to pass.
If the US automakers had applied their tremendous powers of prognostication properly, they could have seen the new demand for smaller, more fuel-efficient cars, acted accordingly, and thus avoided being massacred by the Japanese, but the fact of the matter is that their crystal ball was nothing more than a pet rock.
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American automakers did not stop making convertibles and begin making Targa-type near-convertibles with roll bars - they just stopped making convertibles entirely, with no effort to make anything remotely like them.
They dropped the whole concept rather than try to anticipate and work within a retrospectively-imagined new law, but it was entirely voluntary, and the "new law" is entirely imaginary. There never was a law, and there never was even a bill that failed to pass.
If the US automakers had applied their tremendous powers of prognostication properly, they could have seen the new demand for smaller, more fuel-efficient cars, acted accordingly, and thus avoided being massacred by the Japanese, but the fact of the matter is that their crystal ball was nothing more than a pet rock.
- Eric
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February 20th, 2014, 12:49 PM
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! Bloody cellphone keyboard.
Yes the 1867 Porsche Targa.
Unusually advanced for its time, though there were many sprightly open-roofed gigs on the roads back then.
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Yes the 1867 Porsche Targa.
Unusually advanced for its time, though there were many sprightly open-roofed gigs on the roads back then.
- Eric
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In addition to the low convertible sales, it was also the impending tougher roll over regulations that contributed to the manufacturers ending the convertibles, until the demand was enough for the manufacturers to engineer convertible A-pillars that withstand the rigorous safety testing.
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