455 engine i am looking to buy. need advice

[jensenracing77]

i know a guy that bought all the stuff to build a 455 engine. he got this stuff around 15 years ago and never built the engine. now he wants to sell all of it for $1800. this is the list of parts. he also has all the barrings but they are not listed. what i am wondering, is this worth the money, and is there anything that is no good in this list of parts. he got every thing from mondello.

this is the list as he gave it to me.

1. Block 455 .040 “F” casting(out of 70 442)
2. Crank .010-.010. This is out of a 4-speed car. The crank is drilled
So you can use a 4-speed or Automatic.(RARE)
3. Heads “C” casting 2.072 IN 1.710 EX set up with Dave Smith adjustable rockers and guide plates.
4. 10.25-1 TRW forged pistons.
5. ARP rod bolts.(new)
6. Main stud kit with cap straps.(new) This makes the main caps as strong as a 4 bolt.
7. Windage tray(new)
8. Oil Pump H.V. kit. This converts stock pump into H.V. pump.
9. Oil resrictor kit.(new) This goes in the #2,#3,#4 main bearing saddle to restrict oil flow to the top end. A must above 5000 RPM. For street or strip.
10. Complete Fel-Pro gasket set. With Perma-Torque head gaskets(new)
11. Engle racing cam 274*IN 284*EX .512”IN .523”EX 110* lobe centers.(new)
12. Engle racing lifters. Hydraulic HI-Rev. .842 Dia(new)
13. Chromolloy push rods.(new)
14. Cam thrust button and shim kit.(new)
15. Engle racing silicon-vanadium outer & inner valve springs.(new)
16. Engle racing chromolloy retainers and heat treated locks.(new)
17. Chromolloy oil pump driveshaft.(new)
18. Steel roller timing chain.(new)
19. Edelbrock Performer intake.(new)
20. Edelbrock carb adapter.(new)
21. Distributor recurve kit.(new)
22. Jacobs coil.(used)
23. Solid motor mounts for 68-72 cutlass.(new)
24. Crane vacuum reserve tank.(new)
25. Chrome valve cover breathers(2).(new)
26. Set of Holley and MT valve covers. Both aluminum.(used)
27. Mr Gasket 14” chrome air cleaner. (used)
28. Holley Street Dominator intake. For SB Olds (used)
29. Air Lift coil spring bags. For All Cutlass models.(new)
30. Lunati cam 308*IN&EX .514”lift 108* lobe centers.(used)
31. Lunati hydraulic lifters. From cam above.(used)


like i said this list is his words.

[TaWannaBe]

I wish I didnt see this tread. I just spent $100 less but got a whole lot less than what that guy is selling.
Where is the engine located?

[jensenracing77]

Originally Posted by TaWannaBe

I wish I didnt see this tread. I just spent $100 less but got a whole lot less than what that guy is selling.
Where is the engine located?

i am planing to buy it so i may hold back on the location. it is about 60 miles away from me if you want a hint. i would just like advice on the parts. i know that some of this is older stuff but would like to know if any of it was a bad idea that is not used any more.

[MN71W30]

Originally Posted by jensenracing77

i know a guy that bought all the stuff to build a 455 engine. he got this stuff around 15 years ago and never built the engine. now he wants to sell all of it for $1800. this is the list of parts. he also has all the barrings but they are not listed. what i am wondering, is this worth the money, and is there anything that is no good in this list of parts. he got every thing from mondello.

this is the list as he gave it to me.

1. Block 455 .040 “F” casting(out of 70 442)
2. Crank .010-.010. This is out of a 4-speed car. The crank is drilled
So you can use a 4-speed or Automatic.(RARE)
3. Heads “C” casting 2.072 IN 1.710 EX set up with Dave Smith adjustable rockers and guide plates.
4. 10.25-1 TRW forged pistons.
5. ARP rod bolts.(new)
6. Main stud kit with cap straps.(new) This makes the main caps as strong as a 4 bolt.
7. Windage tray(new)
8. Oil Pump H.V. kit. This converts stock pump into H.V. pump.
9. Oil resrictor kit.(new) This goes in the #2,#3,#4 main bearing saddle to restrict oil flow to the top end. A must above 5000 RPM. For street or strip.
10. Complete Fel-Pro gasket set. With Perma-Torque head gaskets(new)
11. Engle racing cam 274*IN 284*EX .512”IN .523”EX 110* lobe centers.(new)
12. Engle racing lifters. Hydraulic HI-Rev. .842 Dia(new)
13. Chromolloy push rods.(new)
14. Cam thrust button and shim kit.(new)
15. Engle racing silicon-vanadium outer & inner valve springs.(new)
16. Engle racing chromolloy retainers and heat treated locks.(new)
17. Chromolloy oil pump driveshaft.(new)
18. Steel roller timing chain.(new)
19. Edelbrock Performer intake.(new)
20. Edelbrock carb adapter.(new)
21. Distributor recurve kit.(new)
22. Jacobs coil.(used)
23. Solid motor mounts for 68-72 cutlass.(new)
24. Crane vacuum reserve tank.(new)
25. Chrome valve cover breathers(2).(new)
26. Set of Holley and MT valve covers. Both aluminum.(used)
27. Mr Gasket 14” chrome air cleaner. (used)
28. Holley Street Dominator intake. For SB Olds (used)
29. Air Lift coil spring bags. For All Cutlass models.(new)
30. Lunati cam 308*IN&EX .514”lift 108* lobe centers.(used)
31. Lunati hydraulic lifters. From cam above.(used)


like i said this list is his words.

Seems very reasonable but not a screaming deal. I bought one very similar assembled for $1000 without extra intakes and valve covers. I guess you could sell what you don't need and get the cost down closer to 1K. But it sounds like you still need to assemble it. If it were me I would determine what I could sell and see what the bottom line is. I bought a 455 runner on Craigslist for $200 with E heads and it runs great. I honestly don't think it is a screaming deal, just reasonable.
IMHO

[TaWannaBe]

I obviously dont need it now, but I have a friend that might be interested. He just picked up a 74 Nova and is looking for an engine and tranny.

[jensenracing77]

is the Main stud kit with cap straps that big of a deal for a street engine? and how harsh are the solid motor mounts. i don't think i will want to run these.

[joe_padavano]

Originally Posted by jensenracing77

and how harsh are the solid motor mounts. i don't think i will want to run these.

Very and no you don't...

[BosMobile]

Hey man,I just paid 1200 for a simular package[mondello,rebuild kit,same engle cam]except,my heads are bare.There is a set of COMP roller rockers,new.Anyway,by the time i buy,springs,lifters,retainers,locks,valves.I'll have 1800 in it all.Not a bad deal at all,if there hard t o find where you are[455's ''f'' block/c heads]I think your ok if its what you need.
I dragrace some ,so this combos a little hotter t han what i have now.
I'd buy it and sell what you dont need.I need the left motor mount,more vibration,but i put a chain on my engine,picked up nearly a 10th in the 1/8 mile!Let it vibrate!I'd al iso be interested in the windage tray.Anyhow keep us posted,if you buy it or not.Thanks,BO

[BosMobile]

sorry,had to look back.Like to have air bags as well,Thanks,BO

[BLUE72RAGTOP]

I have 2x that amount into a similiar combination that I pieced together myself because I didn't find a deal like this. I think it's a good one.

[BosMobile]

Yeah,when you start adding those individual pieces it really adds up.Not to mention ,its Mondellos stuff.Hey ,is your combo together yet?Be nice to see some numbers before hand.Maybe somthing youd've done differently.I plan on doing this build myself[first engine for me]so i'm looking for any tricks,tips that may help.I also plan on putting my progress in major builds ,think it'll help on advice and such.Later,BO

[jensenracing77]

he don't have a carb with this engine. when i get a carb i am going to go with a Q jet. i am not looking for a long discussion on which is better, just like to know where to get a Q jet built correctly for my application. i am almost sure i will be buying it this weekend. i just want to make sure that he did not store it somewhere that had alot of humidity.

[BosMobile]

Hey,I don't know on the carb,i'm sure some guys run those performance rebuilt Qjets.I always had good luck with the older ones.These newer ones,the jurys still out.
About the humidity?I'm picking my block,crank,parts up this weekend.I know its been sitting there without oil on it a few months.I'm thinking it needs to go back to a machine shop to see whats been done already,any how.What kind of damage could have occured?It does have slight surface rust in the bores.It's inside a building,HELP! BO