the banner at the top of the page - Page 2

Jamesbo · April 8th, 2009, 03:37 AM

Great work!

The top one seems to include most everyone [including the Vista] So it gets my vote.

csstrux · April 8th, 2009, 07:02 AM

I love that emblem you made up there vista

68Tom · April 8th, 2009, 08:07 AM

You know, it's funny. I think I just don't like the blue background all that much. Is there any way we can change the forum colors?

If sticking with the blue (which I'm guessing is the case) I'd definitely go with a white or black font. If going with the white, try outlining the letters in black (there's a function on photoshop that should allow you to do this). If you want to find something closer to the Olds font, try this http://www.fonts.com/FindFonts/ .

As far as the futura font is concerned, it comes standard on all Mac computers. I could always type it out for you and send it as a JPEG.

I hear you on editing the cars. One idea might be to simply go to an Olds car show and take a photo of several lined up. No need to edit much then!

And yes, I like that logo/emblem quite a bit. Might be cool to use in the banner. Just stick it in the center and then put cars on either side of it.

wmachine · April 9th, 2009, 05:25 AM

One can't show enough cars to represent the spectrum. So why not just show the Oldsmobile insignias/signs from over the years? One sign represents decades of models.

Bluevista · April 9th, 2009, 06:11 AM

If the cars are kept do you think they should go back all the way or just post war?
I just put the ones that were easy to edit in, have to be able to see through the windows to the background. When they're dark you have to draw in the rear view mirrors and dash, seat outlines.

I did do one with the 50's symbol and black and white lettering to see how they would look. I just found that Futura font and downloaded it to give it a try, learned how to get fonts anyway.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3323/...d10139b2_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3592/...a20744f8_o.jpg

68Tom · April 9th, 2009, 07:35 AM

Cool. I really like the first one, although with the 2nd one, the name of the site is a little easier to read. Can you try the letters in white with the black outline? Also, you can add a 3D effect to the letters, which is a pretty cool effect. Gives them a little more depth.

citcapp · April 9th, 2009, 08:08 AM

I like the first one with the early Olds Hood Symbol, but the white is kind of hard to read

Bluevista · April 9th, 2009, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68Tom

Cool. I really like the first one, although with the 2nd one, the name of the site is a little easier to read. Can you try the letters in white with the black outline? Also, you can add a 3D effect to the letters, which is a pretty cool effect. Gives them a little more depth.

No problem. The white is hard to see on that one but the emblem behind it is tough to contrast. I'm still learning the program and keep finding all kinds of neat stuff you can do.
Just saw an animation thing, boo wah ha ha.

I feel like Bones in Star Trek "Dammit Jim... I'm a carpenter, not a graphic artist!"

I can do just about anything if you keep it simple now, what's anti-alias and rasterize mean?

I tried the Futura font, I searched 16000 fonts one by one and the closest to the Olds Building 70 sign looks like Turnpike font, then it wouldn't load.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3322/...d98ee839_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3387/...ea78373e_o.jpg

68Tom · April 9th, 2009, 10:02 AM

Cool. I really like the 3D/white outline. Makes it stand out better.

Overall, I think I'd limit the # of cars you put on there to either side of the name. This leaves room for that tagline underneath, and you can make the site name bigger. As was said, it's really impossible to have all the makes, models and years on there, so less might be more.

I wasn't advocating the futura font for the name, just the tagline.

Omicron · April 9th, 2009, 12:45 PM

This is too cool.

If I were to pick today, I'd go with this one:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3323/...d10139b2_o.jpg
but I'd make the font a little more contrasting color (or perhaps a thicker outline) and I'd change the logo and put the Oldsmobile "rocket" emblem instead. Wonder how that emblem would look laid over on it's side, below the lettering? Another thought is to put the emblems over the ages below the lettering too.

citcapp · April 9th, 2009, 04:04 PM

I think if you seperated all of the letters in this version it would be easy to read. It looks greathttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3323/...d10139b2_o.jpg

Omicron · April 9th, 2009, 04:27 PM

Yep, same one I like. I figured just a larger font would do it, with maybe better contrasting colors for the letters. And get the more recognizable Olds Rocket logo, and hell, maybe even the 90's "slash O" logo on there, and we're done!

68Tom · April 9th, 2009, 05:02 PM

If we remove the cars from beneath it, then We'd be able to make the font larger, and hence make it easier to read. Only thing is, Olds is KNOWN by their rocket logo. This doesn't have it anywhere. Not that it necessarily matters.

If using the old logo though, I still think it might be a good idea to put a description beneath it or "around" the globe, as that font and emblem really make it look like a 40s & 50s Olds site.

Omicron · April 10th, 2009, 04:26 PM

Did some thread clean up to keep us on track and positive. We're all having fun here suggesting and being "artsy" with the new-logo-to-be !

68conv455 · April 10th, 2009, 06:13 PM

You can't please everyone, and I understand that, but I'll add my 2 cents anyway for consideration.
I'd like to see Richards car (G-head78) in there because it shows we're not just a bunch of Puritans.

jensenracing77 · April 10th, 2009, 07:55 PM

just a thought but what if we didn't have any cars and had several of the logos. like the globe, rocket, needle piercing a bubble, even the final 500 logos. the final 500 logo was one one of my favorites of all of them. to bad they could not have made a logo like that instead of the bubble thing.

i am not good at this kind of thing. i am just thinking out loud.

wmachine · April 10th, 2009, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jensenracing77

just a thought but what if we didn't have any cars and had several of the logos. like the globe, rocket, needle piercing a bubble, even the final 500 logos. the final 500 logo was one one of my favorites of all of them. to bad they could not have made a logo like that instead of the bubble thing.

i am not good at this kind of thing. i am just thinking out loud.

Um, that's a x2 to something I already suggested. And still think is a good idea.

Oldsguy · April 11th, 2009, 04:56 PM

We will probably never get a 100% agreement but looks like we may be closer to a consensus. I vote for the rocket logo, as was said, it is more recognizable by all.
Paul, maybe once we get is narrowed down to two selections you can transfer them to a thread where people can vote for one or the other and let it ride for say, a week and then tally the votes.

Omicron · April 11th, 2009, 05:04 PM

Finalized version of this one http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3323/...d10139b2_o.jpg is in the works. Then we'll have someone make up a "Oldsmobile logo only" banner, then let members pick via a poll. Should have this wrapped up in a week or two.

68Tom · April 12th, 2009, 04:37 PM

Here's one with some logos. Not sure why it's so blurry. It won't be obviously.

68Tom · April 12th, 2009, 04:40 PM

Here, this one's better. I'm not sure why the blue looks so light and a different shade. In photoshop, the color blue is the same color as the buttons on this page. Anyway, if people like it, I can get it fixed.

68Tom · April 12th, 2009, 09:21 PM

A few changes...

Omicron · April 12th, 2009, 09:49 PM

All of these last 3 you've posted are erroring out for me, Tom.

Are they working for anyone else?

jensenracing77 · April 13th, 2009, 03:32 AM

not working here either

wmachine · April 13th, 2009, 04:19 AM

They're fine here.

68Tom · April 13th, 2009, 05:34 AM

Here's a direct link. Not sure why that's happening
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/h...erdarkcopy.jpg

I'm not sure what's going on. I can't see the images at my work computer either, including the link.

Let's see if this works...

Nope. Ah, I love computers sometime. I'll get this resolved. Maybe.

68Tom · April 13th, 2009, 07:36 AM

Here it is extremely small. Great. Glad I spent several hours on it. Photoshop sometimes sucks. I've had this issue before. It's the jpeg format function on Photoshop. Now, why can I see the thumbnail size, but when I click on it to blow it up, I just get an x-out? It makes absolutely no sense. I'll have to figure it out when I get time at home.

Omicron · April 15th, 2009, 09:01 AM

Hmmm, have to do with file size. I'll go take a looksee in the site control panels. Meanwhile, even the direct links don't work for me now. Usually that means the graphic is not there or cannot display for some reason, like incorrect file format, or corrupted file. You can always email them to me, PM me for email address.

Omicron · April 18th, 2009, 12:21 PM

So Tom, how you doing on this? Sure am lookin forward to seeing it...

68Tom · April 18th, 2009, 02:55 PM

I might be able to get to it tomorrow. Sorry. Been getting killed at work.

Yellowstatue · April 18th, 2009, 11:21 PM

Been getting killed at work.[/quote]
There should be laws against that sort of stuff...it grossly interferes with play time

62Starfire63 · April 20th, 2009, 12:33 PM

I don't know why all the decision making about changing the Banner is so difficult. It looks like this Forum is shades of "A" Body format. Since Oldsmobile became the Power House of first place races, Olds has always been recognized by a Rocket, so let there be the word OLDSMOBILE & a commonly used pictured Olds Style Rocket, so this shows no bias to OLDSMOBILE production cars & vans and their owners.

68Tom · April 26th, 2009, 05:53 PM

Does this work?

jensenracing77 · April 26th, 2009, 06:28 PM

i like that one

lshlsh2 · April 26th, 2009, 07:25 PM

I really like it!!!
Larry

Yellowstatue · April 26th, 2009, 10:40 PM

How about puting the logos in era order...

'We've got' is grammatically incorrect...'We have you covered...

68Tom · April 27th, 2009, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellowstatue

How about puting the logos in era order...

'We've got' is grammatically incorrect...'We have you covered...

Yep, you're right. I was tired.

No problem putting them in order, but not going to waste time on it until there's a final vote for what we want to use.

citcapp · April 27th, 2009, 09:13 AM

Great job, I think we should vote on this now using this one as well

68Tom · April 27th, 2009, 09:23 AM

I like either. haha.

Perhaps you should start a new post with a vote. I guess just note that I can put the emblems in chron order, I'll change the gramatical typo, and I also can adjust the color blue on there to be a little closer to the site. I don't know if I ended up using the correct one when I resaved it last night. It looks a little dark, so I'm thinking I didn't.

Omicron · April 27th, 2009, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by citcapp

Great job, I think we should vote on this now using this one as well

I agree, but I'm still looking for a finalized of the one you show, only with a more standard "rocket" logo... last I heard Tom was still working on that. Once we have it done too, I'll start a new thread and set it up as a poll so we can all vote over the space of a couple of weeks. Then the winner get put in the header of the forum.

So Tom, how about the final version of the multi-car one pretty please?

April 8th, 2009, 03:37 AM	#41 (permalink)
Jamesbo Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 2,846	Thanks Great work! The top one seems to include most everyone [including the Vista] So it gets my vote. __________________ 69 H/O 69 442 convertible 69 Vista Cruiser 69 442 hardtop "Growing old is mandatory,Growing up is optional"

April 8th, 2009, 07:02 AM	#42 (permalink)
csstrux Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Janesville wisconsin Posts: 1,659	I love that emblem you made up there vista __________________ Chad Greed: in psychology is an excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth

April 8th, 2009, 08:07 AM	#43 (permalink)
68Tom Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 835	You know, it's funny. I think I just don't like the blue background all that much. Is there any way we can change the forum colors? If sticking with the blue (which I'm guessing is the case) I'd definitely go with a white or black font. If going with the white, try outlining the letters in black (there's a function on photoshop that should allow you to do this). If you want to find something closer to the Olds font, try this http://www.fonts.com/FindFonts/ . As far as the futura font is concerned, it comes standard on all Mac computers. I could always type it out for you and send it as a JPEG. I hear you on editing the cars. One idea might be to simply go to an Olds car show and take a photo of several lined up. No need to edit much then! And yes, I like that logo/emblem quite a bit. Might be cool to use in the banner. Just stick it in the center and then put cars on either side of it. __________________ 1968 Olds 442 Sports Coupe 4-speed/bench seat

April 9th, 2009, 05:25 AM	#44 (permalink)
wmachine Trying to remember member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,462	One can't show enough cars to represent the spectrum. So why not just show the Oldsmobile insignias/signs from over the years? One sign represents decades of models. __________________ Kurt http://wmachines.shubes.net

April 9th, 2009, 07:35 AM	#46 (permalink)
68Tom Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 835	Cool. I really like the first one, although with the 2nd one, the name of the site is a little easier to read. Can you try the letters in white with the black outline? Also, you can add a 3D effect to the letters, which is a pretty cool effect. Gives them a little more depth. __________________ 1968 Olds 442 Sports Coupe 4-speed/bench seat

April 9th, 2009, 06:11 AM	#45 (permalink)
Bluevista Cruisin' the Vistas Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northeast Ohio Posts: 1,715	If the cars are kept do you think they should go back all the way or just post war? I just put the ones that were easy to edit in, have to be able to see through the windows to the background. When they're dark you have to draw in the rear view mirrors and dash, seat outlines. I did do one with the 50's symbol and black and white lettering to see how they would look. I just found that Futura font and downloaded it to give it a try, learned how to get fonts anyway. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3323/...d10139b2_o.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3592/...a20744f8_o.jpg

April 9th, 2009, 08:08 AM	#47 (permalink)
citcapp Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 3,438	I like the first one with the early Olds Hood Symbol, but the white is kind of hard to read __________________ Pat 1957 Super 88 with a 455 1948 2dr series 76 with a 455

April 9th, 2009, 10:02 AM	#49 (permalink)
68Tom Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 835	Cool. I really like the 3D/white outline. Makes it stand out better. Overall, I think I'd limit the # of cars you put on there to either side of the name. This leaves room for that tagline underneath, and you can make the site name bigger. As was said, it's really impossible to have all the makes, models and years on there, so less might be more. I wasn't advocating the futura font for the name, just the tagline. __________________ 1968 Olds 442 Sports Coupe 4-speed/bench seat Last edited by 68Tom; April 9th, 2009 at 10:15 AM..

April 9th, 2009, 12:45 PM	#50 (permalink)
Omicron Administrator & Motorhead Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 688	This is too cool. If I were to pick today, I'd go with this one: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3323/...d10139b2_o.jpg but I'd make the font a little more contrasting color (or perhaps a thicker outline) and I'd change the logo and put the Oldsmobile "rocket" emblem instead. Wonder how that emblem would look laid over on it's side, below the lettering? Another thought is to put the emblems over the ages below the lettering too. __________________ Paul '71 Convertible 442

April 9th, 2009, 04:04 PM	#51 (permalink)
citcapp Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 3,438	I think if you seperated all of the letters in this version it would be easy to read. It looks greathttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3323/...d10139b2_o.jpg __________________ Pat 1957 Super 88 with a 455 1948 2dr series 76 with a 455

April 9th, 2009, 04:27 PM	#52 (permalink)
Omicron Administrator & Motorhead Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 688	Yep, same one I like. I figured just a larger font would do it, with maybe better contrasting colors for the letters. And get the more recognizable Olds Rocket logo, and hell, maybe even the 90's "slash O" logo on there, and we're done! __________________ Paul '71 Convertible 442

April 9th, 2009, 05:02 PM	#53 (permalink)
68Tom Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 835	If we remove the cars from beneath it, then We'd be able to make the font larger, and hence make it easier to read. Only thing is, Olds is KNOWN by their rocket logo. This doesn't have it anywhere. Not that it necessarily matters. If using the old logo though, I still think it might be a good idea to put a description beneath it or "around" the globe, as that font and emblem really make it look like a 40s & 50s Olds site. __________________ 1968 Olds 442 Sports Coupe 4-speed/bench seat

April 10th, 2009, 04:26 PM	#54 (permalink)
Omicron Administrator & Motorhead Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 688	Did some thread clean up to keep us on track and positive. We're all having fun here suggesting and being "artsy" with the new-logo-to-be ! __________________ Paul '71 Convertible 442

April 10th, 2009, 06:13 PM	#55 (permalink)
68conv455 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 259	You can't please everyone, and I understand that, but I'll add my 2 cents anyway for consideration. I'd like to see Richards car (G-head78) in there because it shows we're not just a bunch of Puritans.

April 10th, 2009, 07:55 PM	#56 (permalink)
jensenracing77 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: brazil indiana Posts: 1,022	just a thought but what if we didn't have any cars and had several of the logos. like the globe, rocket, needle piercing a bubble, even the final 500 logos. the final 500 logo was one one of my favorites of all of them. to bad they could not have made a logo like that instead of the bubble thing. i am not good at this kind of thing. i am just thinking out loud. __________________ 70 Rallye 350 72 Cutlass 00 Silhouette 90 Toronado Trofeo

April 11th, 2009, 04:56 PM	#58 (permalink)
Oldsguy Hot Rodder at heart Administrator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lees Summit MO Posts: 5,360	We will probably never get a 100% agreement but looks like we may be closer to a consensus. I vote for the rocket logo, as was said, it is more recognizable by all. Paul, maybe once we get is narrowed down to two selections you can transfer them to a thread where people can vote for one or the other and let it ride for say, a week and then tally the votes. __________________ Dan '77 Cutlass Supreme '46 2 door "The rocket 455.....it's a sledgehammer approach to a thumbtack world" LuxBlue of HAMB.

April 11th, 2009, 05:04 PM	#59 (permalink)
Omicron Administrator & Motorhead Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 688	Finalized version of this one http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3323/...d10139b2_o.jpg is in the works. Then we'll have someone make up a "Oldsmobile logo only" banner, then let members pick via a poll. Should have this wrapped up in a week or two. __________________ Paul '71 Convertible 442

April 12th, 2009, 04:37 PM	#60 (permalink)
68Tom Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 835	Here's one with some logos. Not sure why it's so blurry. It won't be obviously. __________________ 1968 Olds 442 Sports Coupe 4-speed/bench seat

April 12th, 2009, 04:40 PM	#61 (permalink)
68Tom Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 835	Here, this one's better. I'm not sure why the blue looks so light and a different shade. In photoshop, the color blue is the same color as the buttons on this page. Anyway, if people like it, I can get it fixed. __________________ 1968 Olds 442 Sports Coupe 4-speed/bench seat Last edited by 68Tom; April 12th, 2009 at 04:44 PM..

April 12th, 2009, 09:21 PM	#62 (permalink)
68Tom Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 835	A few changes... __________________ 1968 Olds 442 Sports Coupe 4-speed/bench seat

April 12th, 2009, 09:49 PM	#63 (permalink)
Omicron Administrator & Motorhead Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 688	All of these last 3 you've posted are erroring out for me, Tom. Are they working for anyone else? __________________ Paul '71 Convertible 442

April 13th, 2009, 03:32 AM	#64 (permalink)
jensenracing77 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: brazil indiana Posts: 1,022	not working here either __________________ 70 Rallye 350 72 Cutlass 00 Silhouette 90 Toronado Trofeo

April 13th, 2009, 04:19 AM	#65 (permalink)
wmachine Trying to remember member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,462	They're fine here. __________________ Kurt http://wmachines.shubes.net

April 13th, 2009, 05:34 AM	#66 (permalink)
68Tom Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 835	Here's a direct link. Not sure why that's happening http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/h...erdarkcopy.jpg I'm not sure what's going on. I can't see the images at my work computer either, including the link. Let's see if this works... Nope. Ah, I love computers sometime. I'll get this resolved. Maybe. __________________ 1968 Olds 442 Sports Coupe 4-speed/bench seat Last edited by 68Tom; April 13th, 2009 at 06:52 AM..

April 15th, 2009, 09:01 AM	#68 (permalink)
Omicron Administrator & Motorhead Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 688	Hmmm, have to do with file size. I'll go take a looksee in the site control panels. Meanwhile, even the direct links don't work for me now. Usually that means the graphic is not there or cannot display for some reason, like incorrect file format, or corrupted file. You can always email them to me, PM me for email address. __________________ Paul '71 Convertible 442

April 18th, 2009, 12:21 PM	#69 (permalink)
Omicron Administrator & Motorhead Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 688	So Tom, how you doing on this? Sure am lookin forward to seeing it... __________________ Paul '71 Convertible 442

April 18th, 2009, 02:55 PM	#70 (permalink)
68Tom Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 835	I might be able to get to it tomorrow. Sorry. Been getting killed at work. __________________ 1968 Olds 442 Sports Coupe 4-speed/bench seat

April 18th, 2009, 11:21 PM	#71 (permalink)
Yellowstatue Certified Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Too close to Toronto!! Posts: 567	Bagged Been getting killed at work.[/quote] There should be laws against that sort of stuff...it grossly interferes with play time __________________ '57 S88 HC et al; '68 442 M20; '68 442 M21; '68 W30; '68 Vista et al; '80 -'84 Regency et al; '96,'98.'99 Aurora..Ignition ON

April 20th, 2009, 12:33 PM	#72 (permalink)
62Starfire63 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 27	I don't know why all the decision making about changing the Banner is so difficult. It looks like this Forum is shades of "A" Body format. Since Oldsmobile became the Power House of first place races, Olds has always been recognized by a Rocket, so let there be the word OLDSMOBILE & a commonly used pictured Olds Style Rocket, so this shows no bias to OLDSMOBILE production cars & vans and their owners.

April 26th, 2009, 05:53 PM	#73 (permalink)
68Tom Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 835	Does this work? __________________ 1968 Olds 442 Sports Coupe 4-speed/bench seat

April 26th, 2009, 06:28 PM	#74 (permalink)
jensenracing77 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: brazil indiana Posts: 1,022	i like that one __________________ 70 Rallye 350 72 Cutlass 00 Silhouette 90 Toronado Trofeo

April 26th, 2009, 07:25 PM	#75 (permalink)
lshlsh2 71 cutlass convertible Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Trappe, MD Posts: 179	I really like it!!! Larry

April 26th, 2009, 10:40 PM	#76 (permalink)
Yellowstatue Certified Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Too close to Toronto!! Posts: 567	Order in the court How about puting the logos in era order... 'We've got' is grammatically incorrect...'We have you covered... __________________ '57 S88 HC et al; '68 442 M20; '68 442 M21; '68 W30; '68 Vista et al; '80 -'84 Regency et al; '96,'98.'99 Aurora..Ignition ON Last edited by Yellowstatue; April 26th, 2009 at 10:44 PM.. Reason: Fingers finally caught up to brain...

April 27th, 2009, 09:13 AM	#78 (permalink)
citcapp Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 3,438	Great job, I think we should vote on this now using this one as well __________________ Pat 1957 Super 88 with a 455 1948 2dr series 76 with a 455

April 27th, 2009, 09:23 AM	#79 (permalink)
68Tom Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 835	I like either. haha. Perhaps you should start a new post with a vote. I guess just note that I can put the emblems in chron order, I'll change the gramatical typo, and I also can adjust the color blue on there to be a little closer to the site. I don't know if I ended up using the correct one when I resaved it last night. It looks a little dark, so I'm thinking I didn't. __________________ 1968 Olds 442 Sports Coupe 4-speed/bench seat Last edited by 68Tom; April 27th, 2009 at 09:25 AM..