70 cutlass/455 project Torque machine

70_CS · March 16th, 2009, 07:21 PM

so it all started when i got my first car all i had was 500 bucks and i had to sell my fourwheeler to get that much lol. anyways there was this old car sitting next to the school i didnt even know what it was except it had some inner beauty that i could see. now dont get me wrong this car was ready for the glue factory lol ok and the guy wanted 1,000 bucks for it but i called anyways cause it had a great running numbers matching 350 and the floor pans and frame was solid. so i got ahold of the guy he said he has gotten a few offers for aound 800 and i said oh ok well i dont wanna jew you out of your money and he said well are you going to restore it and i said yea of course the other guys that offered him 800 where gunna put it in a demo. so he let me have it for 500 then the building began. after 4 years all the bodywork ended and i finally got to drive it. the 350 wasnt enough power so i sold it. which still bugs me that i did that and now im building my 455. i will have specs and pics soon.

70_CS · March 18th, 2009, 08:37 AM

citcapp · March 18th, 2009, 11:19 AM

Are you sure your not working in my garage looks like the same cramped area I work in

good luck with the build keep posting pictures

70_CS · March 18th, 2009, 01:33 PM

arnt we all working in small garages lol no one has any money for a good one

sklbndt · March 18th, 2009, 05:47 PM

A garage!?! What's that? I'm in a carport!!

citcapp · March 18th, 2009, 06:28 PM

A garage like mine is just a carport with walls. At least I can lock it up which is a good thing.

BosMobile · March 18th, 2009, 07:40 PM

that brings back some memories. looks like a nice project. you wont regret the 455 when you drive it.

70_CS · March 23rd, 2009, 10:10 AM

so i took more of the motor apart just to be safe and yep the crank is shit lol cracks everywhere and a chip came out of one of the oil holes ugh its always something

70_CS · March 24th, 2009, 01:18 PM

ok im alittle happier today i got two big boxes from summit today will post pics soon

wolfman98 · March 24th, 2009, 03:45 PM

I have a 2 car garage but no heat or lights so I moved my car over to my mom's 3 car garage which has infloor heat and lights. Wow what a concept that was

I had to move my brother's car to my garage , but since he lives on the opposite coast he did not have much say

. The house and garage is less than a year old so I will have to do a major cleanup when I am done but it sure makes it nice to work in during our long , cold winter.

Wasted · March 25th, 2009, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sklbndt

A garage!?! What's that? I'm in a carport!!

A carport!! Whats that? lol

I had to do a engine swap in the dirt

in my backyard.It sucked, I would kill just to have a concrete slab.

CS 70 You wont regret getting the 455. I just got mine a couple days ago and love it. Just make sure you have a 4 row radiator. The 3 row in mine just isn't working good enough for long stop and go drives.

70_CS · March 26th, 2009, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasted

A carport!! Whats that? lol

I had to do a engine swap in the dirt

in my backyard.It sucked, I would kill just to have a concrete slab.

CS 70 You wont regret getting the 455. I just got mine a couple days ago and love it. Just make sure you have a 4 row radiator. The 3 row in mine just isn't working good enough for long stop and go drives.

i got a new aluminum 4 row so im good lol the only thing that is gunna suck is the 500 break in miles

i just wanna do a burnout lol

Wasted · March 27th, 2009, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70_CS

i got a new aluminum 4 row so im good lol the only thing that is gunna suck is the 500 break in miles

i just wanna do a burnout lol

Lol I know what your going through. I just switched out the 330 in my 64 for a rebuilt 350, and I been wanting to do a burnout

. I know its only a 350 but it went into my first car, that I also havent driven in over a year

.

trdbrd · March 27th, 2009, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70_CS

i got a new aluminum 4 row so im good lol the only thing that is gunna suck is the 500 break in miles

i just wanna do a burnout lol

Oh, the break in miles. With the trunk or bed loaded with tools and fluids. I have a round trip journy I take up one pass through central washington down to south east Washington to Oregon and back home. Some times I take the 101 up the coast if all is feeling good and other times I take another route home. Break in done in one drive. Usualy with no problems and always a pleasure. Tough to hold back the urge to feel it out at times though.

70_CS · March 28th, 2009, 10:18 PM

some new pics just ran into a engine mount problem got small block frame mounts with big block motor mounts lol ugh it took me six hours to figure that one out ughhh what a waste some new pics after its in there

trdbrd · March 28th, 2009, 11:56 PM

Looks good. Looks like you went with the same comp set rocker set up I used.

No doubt the 64 is not the same as your 70. But I bough small and big block motor mounts for my car when I replaced the 330 with the 455. At $9.00 each I thought it was best since I was unsure about hood and header clearance. I used the shorter of the two mount sets with my small block frame mounts and it worked out good. The headers clear and the windfart hi-rise fit with a 3" air filter. I only had to trim the hood frame to clear the outer edge of the air cleaner.

70_CS · March 29th, 2009, 07:58 PM

BosMobile · March 30th, 2009, 10:08 AM

LOOKING GOOD!!keep posting,im gittin fired up just watching your project.im looking at a 403 in the corner rite now .ck ya later,BO

70_CS · March 30th, 2009, 09:24 PM

just broke in the cam im gunna clean up the wiring then take another pic for ya guys ......man does that 455 sound MEAN

70_CS · March 31st, 2009, 01:15 AM

build info

455 F block ...... 0.30 over
big valve C-heads
comp cams 1442-kit (includes roller tip rockers, guide plates, pushrods, studs, etc..)
matching comp cams springs
comp cams 280 magnum muscle cam
new stock 455 crank with clevite bearings
fresh connecting rods
fresh pistons and rings
jegs performance gasket kit
polished crosswind intake
msd street fire ignition box
msd coil
holley 770cfm carb
holley electric fuel pump
holley fuel filter
holley fuel regulator
4 core aluminum radiator
2200 stall conv.
flowtech headers
flowmaster 40's
jegs x-pipe kit
hid conversion headlights
new water pump
new belts
all new 3" pipeing

im sure there is more that im forgetting but oh well lol

wolfman98 · March 31st, 2009, 06:19 AM

The motor is going to be a real beauty by the sound of it. Are you planning on cleaning up and putting fresh paint around the engine bay?

gearheads78 · March 31st, 2009, 07:27 AM

nice job

citcapp · March 31st, 2009, 08:37 AM

Sounds like you are building a strong performer. Smoke those tires........Vaaaroooom

70_CS · April 1st, 2009, 10:09 PM

lol i had to go get a new alternator today lulz next is the starter then power steering then its ALL new lol ugh money well spent. hey question can i still dyno tune during the break in miles

70_CS · April 6th, 2009, 01:27 AM

i knew it i just had to replace the starter lol

wolfman98 · April 6th, 2009, 06:25 AM

I know how you feel about that first hand. Like that expression "been there , done that" When I started my little job my intention was to only clean up the motor and engine bay but one thing laeds to another, then another and so on and so on. I think that in the end when you are done everything and have it on the road purring like a kitten until you push on that pedal that makes her roar like a lion it will all be worthwhile.

70_CS · April 7th, 2009, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfman98

I know how you feel about that first hand. Like that expression "been there , done that" When I started my little job my intention was to only clean up the motor and engine bay but one thing laeds to another, then another and so on and so on. I think that in the end when you are done everything and have it on the road purring like a kitten until you push on that pedal that makes her roar like a lion it will all be worthwhile.

oh ive been driven her she screams lol i love it and mustangs hate it lol

hamm36 · April 7th, 2009, 09:02 PM

NICE !! Can't wait to see the video.

BosMobile · April 7th, 2009, 09:41 PM

cool engine!! about how much HP you think its gonna make?OH, and that intake is nice, who makes it? ive got 72/455/400/3.73. not as many good parts/stock bottom end.im doing a 455 in 83 cutlass next,i could put my performer on it.how much taller you think it is?i couldnt run a 1'' spacer on minethe hood wouldnt shut.any info appreciated .later,BO

70_CS · April 8th, 2009, 12:41 AM

im thinking 5-600, professional products make the intake,on the height question i dunno but my guess would be that it would hit but maybe not

wolfman98 · April 8th, 2009, 05:22 AM

Everything sounds as though it's going good so far. your best guess is that "it would hit" . Are you talking about the hood? If it does hit do you have a plan on what you are going to do about it. You could always customize the one you have i guess. My problem is that everytime I take off parts to check and add gaskets etc. I keep seeing parts I don't like the look of so I keep on stripping it down and Painting them. Right now I need to find some front end trim pieces that go around headslights and under the grills. The ones I took off are either cracked (could be fixed) or broken and missing pieces.I painted the motor and tranny as well as oilpan and tranny pan etc. then I decided to paint up everything inside the engine bay. Took out the wheelwells and painted them. I have replaced all gaskets and hoses vacuum lines , dist cap and rotor , plugs , wires Oil filter , tranny filter , timing chain and gears. All the parts I take off I clean up and paint so when it goes back together it will look good. As I go along I have been taking pics and posting on http://www.flickr.com/photos/wolfman98/

70_CS · April 12th, 2009, 02:38 PM

safe to say the breakin miles are over

Jamesbo · April 12th, 2009, 02:43 PM

I hope your breaks are in good shape. That looks like a nasty hairpin curve.

BosMobile · April 12th, 2009, 04:50 PM

man,i love it!!!ive spent all day in the junkyard lookin for a posi[no luck]im dirty ,im tired, but THAT made me SMILE!!THANKS,i needed it,keep up the good work[thats not work,is it]HAHAHA!! later,BO

70_CS · April 12th, 2009, 09:28 PM

its the best kind of work

wolfman98 · April 13th, 2009, 04:32 AM

Love those pics. looks like a spot I have been to a few times that's not far from here , sharp right hand corner , trees in back . Is there an old farm just past the corner on the right? A lake with good rainbow trout fishing about a mile down the road? What state are you in anyway cause it looks a lot like many places around here. Are those wheelie bars legal down there

and do you really need them

. You have any 1/4 mile tracks around you where you can get in some fun and put those bars to good use , I would think that is why you have them anyway. Good job on the build and I hope you all the luck with staying out of the radar

74Cutlass S · April 13th, 2009, 01:42 PM

Great looking car, hopefully this summer I will be able to build a 455 bout like that, Defiantly want to know if you need those wheelie bars, Also what size of tires you got on that beast?

BosMobile · April 13th, 2009, 06:49 PM

may as well put a parachute on there too!!That shold get some attention.we're some sick people.later,BO

Coltonis · April 14th, 2009, 07:13 PM

Very nice. I really like the stance on your car, its got just a touch of that 'cocked & loaded' look. I'm curious have you done much to the suspension and what size wheels you have on there?

70_CS · April 14th, 2009, 08:55 PM

ive got 15" in front 16" in the back and the back are 50's the car does pull the drivers side tire off the ground about an inch i dont know about the passenger side but i have even touch the suspension but when i do im doing a full drag suspension with 4.10 gears

March 16th, 2009, 07:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
70_CS torque machine Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: merrimac, W.I. Posts: 113	70 cutlass/455 project Torque machine so it all started when i got my first car all i had was 500 bucks and i had to sell my fourwheeler to get that much lol. anyways there was this old car sitting next to the school i didnt even know what it was except it had some inner beauty that i could see. now dont get me wrong this car was ready for the glue factory lol ok and the guy wanted 1,000 bucks for it but i called anyways cause it had a great running numbers matching 350 and the floor pans and frame was solid. so i got ahold of the guy he said he has gotten a few offers for aound 800 and i said oh ok well i dont wanna jew you out of your money and he said well are you going to restore it and i said yea of course the other guys that offered him 800 where gunna put it in a demo. so he let me have it for 500 then the building began. after 4 years all the bodywork ended and i finally got to drive it. the 350 wasnt enough power so i sold it. which still bugs me that i did that and now im building my 455. i will have specs and pics soon. __________________

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March 18th, 2009, 11:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
citcapp Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 3,441	Are you sure your not working in my garage looks like the same cramped area I work in good luck with the build keep posting pictures __________________ Pat 1957 Super 88 with a 455 1948 2dr series 76 with a 455

March 18th, 2009, 01:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
70_CS torque machine Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: merrimac, W.I. Posts: 113	arnt we all working in small garages lol no one has any money for a good one __________________

March 18th, 2009, 05:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
sklbndt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 111	A garage!?! What's that? I'm in a carport!! __________________ John Tucker 68 Cutlass S Convertible

March 18th, 2009, 06:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
citcapp Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 3,441	A garage like mine is just a carport with walls. At least I can lock it up which is a good thing. __________________ Pat 1957 Super 88 with a 455 1948 2dr series 76 with a 455

March 18th, 2009, 07:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
BosMobile Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: n. alabama-heart of dixie Posts: 209	hey! are those m-50s ? that brings back some memories. looks like a nice project. you wont regret the 455 when you drive it.

March 23rd, 2009, 10:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
70_CS torque machine Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: merrimac, W.I. Posts: 113	so i took more of the motor apart just to be safe and yep the crank is shit lol cracks everywhere and a chip came out of one of the oil holes ugh its always something __________________

March 24th, 2009, 01:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
70_CS torque machine Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: merrimac, W.I. Posts: 113	ok im alittle happier today i got two big boxes from summit today will post pics soon __________________

March 24th, 2009, 03:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
wolfman98 Captain of my ship Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wilmot , Nova Scotia , Canada Posts: 1,293	gaage I have a 2 car garage but no heat or lights so I moved my car over to my mom's 3 car garage which has infloor heat and lights. Wow what a concept that was I had to move my brother's car to my garage , but since he lives on the opposite coast he did not have much say. The house and garage is less than a year old so I will have to do a major cleanup when I am done but it sure makes it nice to work in during our long , cold winter.

March 28th, 2009, 10:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
70_CS torque machine Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: merrimac, W.I. Posts: 113	some new pics just ran into a engine mount problem got small block frame mounts with big block motor mounts lol ugh it took me six hours to figure that one out ughhh what a waste some new pics after its in there __________________

March 28th, 2009, 11:56 PM	#16 (permalink)
trdbrd Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 40	Looks good. Looks like you went with the same comp set rocker set up I used. No doubt the 64 is not the same as your 70. But I bough small and big block motor mounts for my car when I replaced the 330 with the 455. At $9.00 each I thought it was best since I was unsure about hood and header clearance. I used the shorter of the two mount sets with my small block frame mounts and it worked out good. The headers clear and the windfart hi-rise fit with a 3" air filter. I only had to trim the hood frame to clear the outer edge of the air cleaner.

March 29th, 2009, 07:58 PM	#17 (permalink)
70_CS torque machine Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: merrimac, W.I. Posts: 113	__________________

March 30th, 2009, 10:08 AM	#18 (permalink)
BosMobile Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: n. alabama-heart of dixie Posts: 209	LOOKING GOOD!!keep posting,im gittin fired up just watching your project.im looking at a 403 in the corner rite now .ck ya later,BO

March 30th, 2009, 09:24 PM	#19 (permalink)
70_CS torque machine Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: merrimac, W.I. Posts: 113	just broke in the cam im gunna clean up the wiring then take another pic for ya guys ......man does that 455 sound MEAN __________________

March 31st, 2009, 01:15 AM	#20 (permalink)
70_CS torque machine Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: merrimac, W.I. Posts: 113	build info 455 F block ...... 0.30 over big valve C-heads comp cams 1442-kit (includes roller tip rockers, guide plates, pushrods, studs, etc..) matching comp cams springs comp cams 280 magnum muscle cam new stock 455 crank with clevite bearings fresh connecting rods fresh pistons and rings jegs performance gasket kit polished crosswind intake msd street fire ignition box msd coil holley 770cfm carb holley electric fuel pump holley fuel filter holley fuel regulator 4 core aluminum radiator 2200 stall conv. flowtech headers flowmaster 40's jegs x-pipe kit hid conversion headlights new water pump new belts all new 3" pipeing im sure there is more that im forgetting but oh well lol __________________

March 31st, 2009, 06:19 AM	#21 (permalink)
wolfman98 Captain of my ship Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wilmot , Nova Scotia , Canada Posts: 1,293	A beauty The motor is going to be a real beauty by the sound of it. Are you planning on cleaning up and putting fresh paint around the engine bay?

March 31st, 2009, 07:27 AM	#22 (permalink)
gearheads78 Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 1,563	nice job __________________ -Richard 66 Cutlass ragtop my way Keep watching your cotton candy coated TV while your world falls apart around you...

March 31st, 2009, 08:37 AM	#23 (permalink)
citcapp Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 3,441	Sounds like you are building a strong performer. Smoke those tires........Vaaaroooom __________________ Pat 1957 Super 88 with a 455 1948 2dr series 76 with a 455

April 1st, 2009, 10:09 PM	#24 (permalink)
70_CS torque machine Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: merrimac, W.I. Posts: 113	lol i had to go get a new alternator today lulz next is the starter then power steering then its ALL new lol ugh money well spent. hey question can i still dyno tune during the break in miles __________________

April 6th, 2009, 01:27 AM	#25 (permalink)
70_CS torque machine Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: merrimac, W.I. Posts: 113	i knew it i just had to replace the starter lol __________________

April 6th, 2009, 06:25 AM	#26 (permalink)
wolfman98 Captain of my ship Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wilmot , Nova Scotia , Canada Posts: 1,293	been there I know how you feel about that first hand. Like that expression "been there , done that" When I started my little job my intention was to only clean up the motor and engine bay but one thing laeds to another, then another and so on and so on. I think that in the end when you are done everything and have it on the road purring like a kitten until you push on that pedal that makes her roar like a lion it will all be worthwhile.

April 7th, 2009, 09:02 PM	#28 (permalink)
hamm36 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Dallas Posts: 338	NICE !! Can't wait to see the video. __________________ 72 Cutlass Supreme - nothing more, nothing less.

April 7th, 2009, 09:41 PM	#29 (permalink)
BosMobile Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: n. alabama-heart of dixie Posts: 209	cool engine!! about how much HP you think its gonna make?OH, and that intake is nice, who makes it? ive got 72/455/400/3.73. not as many good parts/stock bottom end.im doing a 455 in 83 cutlass next,i could put my performer on it.how much taller you think it is?i couldnt run a 1'' spacer on minethe hood wouldnt shut.any info appreciated .later,BO

April 8th, 2009, 12:41 AM	#30 (permalink)
70_CS torque machine Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: merrimac, W.I. Posts: 113	im thinking 5-600, professional products make the intake,on the height question i dunno but my guess would be that it would hit but maybe not __________________

April 8th, 2009, 05:22 AM	#31 (permalink)
wolfman98 Captain of my ship Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wilmot , Nova Scotia , Canada Posts: 1,293	sounds good Everything sounds as though it's going good so far. your best guess is that "it would hit" . Are you talking about the hood? If it does hit do you have a plan on what you are going to do about it. You could always customize the one you have i guess. My problem is that everytime I take off parts to check and add gaskets etc. I keep seeing parts I don't like the look of so I keep on stripping it down and Painting them. Right now I need to find some front end trim pieces that go around headslights and under the grills. The ones I took off are either cracked (could be fixed) or broken and missing pieces.I painted the motor and tranny as well as oilpan and tranny pan etc. then I decided to paint up everything inside the engine bay. Took out the wheelwells and painted them. I have replaced all gaskets and hoses vacuum lines , dist cap and rotor , plugs , wires Oil filter , tranny filter , timing chain and gears. All the parts I take off I clean up and paint so when it goes back together it will look good. As I go along I have been taking pics and posting on http://www.flickr.com/photos/wolfman98/

April 12th, 2009, 02:38 PM	#32 (permalink)
70_CS torque machine Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: merrimac, W.I. Posts: 113	safe to say the breakin miles are over __________________

April 12th, 2009, 02:43 PM	#33 (permalink)
Jamesbo Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 2,854	I hope your breaks are in good shape. That looks like a nasty hairpin curve. __________________ 69 H/O 69 442 convertible 69 Vista Cruiser 69 442 hardtop "Growing old is mandatory,Growing up is optional"

April 12th, 2009, 04:50 PM	#34 (permalink)
BosMobile Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: n. alabama-heart of dixie Posts: 209	man,i love it!!!ive spent all day in the junkyard lookin for a posi[no luck]im dirty ,im tired, but THAT made me SMILE!!THANKS,i needed it,keep up the good work[thats not work,is it]HAHAHA!! later,BO

April 12th, 2009, 09:28 PM	#35 (permalink)
70_CS torque machine Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: merrimac, W.I. Posts: 113	its the best kind of work __________________ Last edited by 70_CS; April 12th, 2009 at 09:29 PM.. Reason: wrong word

April 13th, 2009, 04:32 AM	#36 (permalink)
wolfman98 Captain of my ship Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wilmot , Nova Scotia , Canada Posts: 1,293	cool pics Love those pics. looks like a spot I have been to a few times that's not far from here , sharp right hand corner , trees in back . Is there an old farm just past the corner on the right? A lake with good rainbow trout fishing about a mile down the road? What state are you in anyway cause it looks a lot like many places around here. Are those wheelie bars legal down there and do you really need them. You have any 1/4 mile tracks around you where you can get in some fun and put those bars to good use , I would think that is why you have them anyway. Good job on the build and I hope you all the luck with staying out of the radar

April 13th, 2009, 01:42 PM	#37 (permalink)
74Cutlass S Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 16	Great looking car, hopefully this summer I will be able to build a 455 bout like that, Defiantly want to know if you need those wheelie bars, Also what size of tires you got on that beast?

April 13th, 2009, 06:49 PM	#38 (permalink)
BosMobile Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: n. alabama-heart of dixie Posts: 209	COOL!! may as well put a parachute on there too!!That shold get some attention.we're some sick people.later,BO

April 14th, 2009, 07:13 PM	#39 (permalink)
Coltonis Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 99	Very nice. I really like the stance on your car, its got just a touch of that 'cocked & loaded' look. I'm curious have you done much to the suspension and what size wheels you have on there? __________________ -Coltonis "Arizona: its not hell ...but you can see it from here." My Project Thread

April 14th, 2009, 08:55 PM	#40 (permalink)
70_CS torque machine Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: merrimac, W.I. Posts: 113	ive got 15" in front 16" in the back and the back are 50's the car does pull the drivers side tire off the ground about an inch i dont know about the passenger side but i have even touch the suspension but when i do im doing a full drag suspension with 4.10 gears __________________