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1100853
1100853 8G11 whats it worth?
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...What the hell is it..?? lol....
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I'm going to guess a 1968 Alternator, but I don't know the application. More details please. John
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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Remanufactured mid 70's alternator? 63 amp.
http://www.delcoremy.com/pdfs/ProdRefGuide.pdf
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I googled it and came up with 1969 Olds 442 in a couple listings and 1969 Hurst Olds in one other.
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1964 Cutlass Factory 4spd 1965 442 4spd 1967 442 Auto 1967 Cutlass Convertible 1967 Cutlass four door daily driver 1968 442 Auto 1969 442 W30 Auto 1970 442 4spd 1971 Cutlass Flat Top Wagon 1973 Che*vy 3/4 Ton 454/TH400 Tow Vehicle Only the tow vehicle is finished! |
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According to this guy,it's a 69 hurst olds.
http://www.classicoldsmobile.com/for...lternator.html
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HA! I must have beat you by mere seconds
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1964 Cutlass Factory 4spd 1965 442 4spd 1967 442 Auto 1967 Cutlass Convertible 1967 Cutlass four door daily driver 1968 442 Auto 1969 442 W30 Auto 1970 442 4spd 1971 Cutlass Flat Top Wagon 1973 Che*vy 3/4 Ton 454/TH400 Tow Vehicle Only the tow vehicle is finished! |
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I thought the code 8G11 meant 1968, 7th month, 11th day. But isn't July early for the 1969 model year? I know some numbers were used for more than one year, so I wonder if this is correct for a 1968 442 instead???
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1964 Cutlass Factory 4spd 1965 442 4spd 1967 442 Auto 1967 Cutlass Convertible 1967 Cutlass four door daily driver 1968 442 Auto 1969 442 W30 Auto 1970 442 4spd 1971 Cutlass Flat Top Wagon 1973 Che*vy 3/4 Ton 454/TH400 Tow Vehicle Only the tow vehicle is finished! |
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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I don't know what else it was used for, but 1100853 is the correct 69 H/O alternator (at least per the factory line assembly manual sheet I have). The date code on that one is wrong for the 69, though. It is one of the GM "open face" models with an internal regulator. You would need a vintage delco catalog from that era to know all of its applications.
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Other Current Orphans: 2006 Solstice, 2004 Vue Red Line Prior Oldsmobiles: 1994 Cutlass Supreme Convertible, 1975 Cutlass Salon, 1969 442 Convertible |
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Randy C.
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Olympia, WA
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The 1100853 alternator is definitely for a '69 4-4-2 or H/O as a standard set-up or with just the power steering option. It might have applications with other bodies (B,C) as well, with limited options, but that's pure speculation on my part. Additional options, such as A/C, heavy duty cooling, or power steering with either of those two options, required the 1100852 alternator which I believe is a 55 amp unit, according to my '69 shop manual. My manual also indicates that the 1100853 alternator is a 37 amp unit. Both alternators should have internal voltage regulators, according to my book. The date, 8G11, means July 11, 1968. Keep in mind that production on the '68 models ended on or very near July 15th, and production of the '69 models started in mid-August 1968. July is definitely not early to begin parts production for the next year's models, and I don't see any indication that internal voltage regulator alternators were used on the '68 models. Accordingly, your 1100853 alternator most likely was installed on an early production '69 4-4-2 or H/O with just power steering at best (may not have had power steering, too) - no A/C or heavy duty cooling. What's it worth? To the right person, it's probably worth up to $150 if it's in perfect running order (rebuilt and restored to like-new condition) and has the correct stamping (AN) on it. As a core, it might be worth around $20 or so. Keep in mind, that's just my opinion - others will vary!
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1100853 8G11 is an internal openfaced front, finned rear, alternator for early production 69 hurst olds. I don't believe 68 used the internal reg alt. It has the AN broadcast stamp, single pulley with the number 5 stamped on it ,11 blade fan, looks almost new. 37amp 8G11 is july 11th 1968
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You are correct
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Let me correct myself. The date code is too early for 69 H/O production (March-May 69), not for all 69 production, if one assumes the typical 60-90 day date code range for parts of the era to be used on the line. It probably came out on an early production 442 as mentioned above. It is a 37 amp unit.
Where is this AN stamp that has been mentioned. I need to look at mine and see if it is there. Thanks. Eric |
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not to get too far off track but i do have an alt. question . i have a 69 h/o with air cond. and the wire harness has two plugs for the alt-one for ext regulator and one for an int regulator.my car has the ext reg and i haven't very many air cars but they seem to mixed some with and some without.where as the non air cars all seem to have the int. reg .can anyone shine some light on this?
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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cameo white, the stamp is on the drive end hsg, on the same surface as the 1100853, just to the left of the number. I am rebuilding one for a customer and his is in the same place as mine.
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Chicago, IL
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Hey Fizzy,
I thought they all had internally regulated alternators (A/C or non-A/C) from the factory, but I may well be wrong. Others on here may be able to better answer your question, including Jamesbo, or 1969Hurst (Jeff), a long time 69 H/O guy. Are you a member of the Hurst Olds Club? If so, maybe email Kurt Karch (69 H/O advisor) as another possible source for an answer to that question. The OCA also has model year advisors you can ask.
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Chicago, IL
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Thanks Stellar. Mine was pretty oxidized when I sent it to my engine guy. I could make out the part number, but not the date code, so I doubt I'll have any luck finding the AN stamp either.
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Randy C.
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Olympia, WA
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The "AN" stamping is in a black ink and is usually gone (worn away) from most older alternators. A knowledgeable rebuilder will put the correct stamping back on in its proper place, using the proper letter font. The correct alternator and stamping, or "code", for every F85/Cutlass/442 set-up, is shown in manual section 6-1, pages 110-113, of the 1969 Cutlass/442 assembly manual. And, to quote from the 1969 Chassis Service Manual on page 12-24, "The Delcotron generator used on all [1969] 442 models has a transistorized regulator that is mounted inside the Delcotron...The regulator is sealed unit, temperature compensated, all electronic and does not require adjustment. There are no moving parts within the regulator and it cannot be disassembled." So, in 1969, the 442 models (and Hurst Olds) got the Delcotron generator with transistorized regulator, while the Cutlass and F85 models got the external regulator generator. And....good point on the Hurst models; I didn't know that they weren't made until March 1969 - one of those little facts that's good to know and I greatly enjoy learning those kinds of details!
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