1974 delta hurst olds pace car

w30hurstolds · May 9th, 2009, 07:10 PM

Just bought off the original owner.The owner said it was the only one they built with the 455.It was built for one of the gm brass and then given to the owner when the duties of being a pace car was over.I know very little about the car.It seems to have every option you could order.Looking for some addvice on buying nos parts and any info on these cars thanks

rocketraider · May 9th, 2009, 11:17 PM

Except for the stripe kit they're identical to all other Deltas as far as parts go. Not sure if they even had anything on the data plate to identify them. They were built around same time as the Cutlass Pace Car replicas, late April thru May. I was also under impression they were all 350 cars but in order to have sold one in California, it would have HAD to have been a 455 car as the 350 wasn't CA emissions certified in Delta 88 (which is also how the 350 Hurst/Olds came about- the 455 wasn't CA emissions certified in Cutlass, so in order to sell 1974 Hurst/Olds in CA, they offered the 350 with Hurst appearance package).

I've heard two different production numbers- 42 and 92. 92 seems to be more prevalent so that's what I go by.

Story behind these is Indy required convertibles for Festival parade duty, and Olds/GM didn't have any A-body ragtops in 74. So, they trotted out the specially trimmed Delta convertibles for use at the 1974 Indy 500. They also furnished a 4-door Cutlass Salon in Pace Car trim for Tony Hulman's personal use, as well as some Custom Cruisers and GMC trucks for photography and hauling use.

I found one at a Charlotte AutoFair in 1988. It had been painted black but you could still see the outline of the stripes where they didn't sand it good. I wish I had bought it as a companion to my Hurst/Olds but I had just bought the Toronado and was arse deep in restoring my 73 Delta ragtop.

Good find. It's recognised by the Hurst/Olds Club. Calvin Badgley owns one and would be a good resource for info. www.hurstolds.com , contact us button.

w30hurstolds · May 10th, 2009, 06:55 AM

the vin number is 3n67t4m266734 not sure how too decode any help thanks

joe_padavano · May 10th, 2009, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by w30hurstolds

the vin number is 3n67t4m266734 not sure how too decode any help thanks

http://service.gm.com/dealerworld/vi.../vincard74.pdf

3 = Olds
N = Delta 88 Royale
67 = Convertible
T = 455, 210 net HP
4 = 1974
M = Lansing MI assembly plant
366734 = sequential build no.

Oldsguy · May 10th, 2009, 07:15 AM

Welcome to CO, looking forward to pictures of you car, we have some other Delta owners here that will no doubt keep in contact with you.

w30hurstolds · May 10th, 2009, 07:29 AM

Thanks I am getting ready to do a frame off.Trying to locate parts are not easy.The car is in original condition with 74000 miles on it.Some rust any help on locating nos parts will be a help.

citcapp · May 10th, 2009, 09:38 AM

Welcome and good luck with your restoration

Operation Deltapower · May 11th, 2009, 06:27 AM

welcome and good luck!

wmachine · May 11th, 2009, 08:43 AM

Nice find! Definitely worth looking into. More obscure cars like this always interesting to research!

1969Hurst · May 11th, 2009, 10:16 PM

Nice buy...

According to my list, that vin was assigned to a "D.J. Salmeri" and under notes is "Pace Car Committee"

Did you buy the car from an individual from Indiana not far from Indianapolis by chance?

I'll make a copy of the list page and try to hit you off list with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by w30hurstolds

the vin number is 3n67t4m266734 not sure how too decode any help thanks

wmachine · May 13th, 2009, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1969Hurst

Nice buy...

According to my list, that vin was assigned to a "D.J. Salmeri" and under notes is "Pace Car Committee"

Did you buy the car from an individual from Indiana not far from Indianapolis by chance?

I'll make a copy of the list page and try to hit you off list with it.

Very impressive! Nice to be able to solidly document that as an original pace car.

w30hurstolds · May 13th, 2009, 08:25 PM

Yes I bought the car from Ralph Vannatta he lives in ShelbyVille Indiana.

Ed Cole · May 22nd, 2009, 09:04 PM

sounds like a great car.

May 9th, 2009, 07:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
w30hurstolds New User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4	1974 delta hurst olds pace car Just bought off the original owner.The owner said it was the only one they built with the 455.It was built for one of the gm brass and then given to the owner when the duties of being a pace car was over.I know very little about the car.It seems to have every option you could order.Looking for some addvice on buying nos parts and any info on these cars thanks

May 9th, 2009, 11:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
rocketraider Oldsdruid Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Danville Vajenya, the Last Capital of Dixie Posts: 1,214	Except for the stripe kit they're identical to all other Deltas as far as parts go. Not sure if they even had anything on the data plate to identify them. They were built around same time as the Cutlass Pace Car replicas, late April thru May. I was also under impression they were all 350 cars but in order to have sold one in California, it would have HAD to have been a 455 car as the 350 wasn't CA emissions certified in Delta 88 (which is also how the 350 Hurst/Olds came about- the 455 wasn't CA emissions certified in Cutlass, so in order to sell 1974 Hurst/Olds in CA, they offered the 350 with Hurst appearance package). I've heard two different production numbers- 42 and 92. 92 seems to be more prevalent so that's what I go by. Story behind these is Indy required convertibles for Festival parade duty, and Olds/GM didn't have any A-body ragtops in 74. So, they trotted out the specially trimmed Delta convertibles for use at the 1974 Indy 500. They also furnished a 4-door Cutlass Salon in Pace Car trim for Tony Hulman's personal use, as well as some Custom Cruisers and GMC trucks for photography and hauling use. I found one at a Charlotte AutoFair in 1988. It had been painted black but you could still see the outline of the stripes where they didn't sand it good. I wish I had bought it as a companion to my Hurst/Olds but I had just bought the Toronado and was arse deep in restoring my 73 Delta ragtop. Good find. It's recognised by the Hurst/Olds Club. Calvin Badgley owns one and would be a good resource for info. www.hurstolds.com , contact us button. __________________ I know absolutely nothing about Oldsmobiles. Just ask the owner of Oldspower.com Last edited by rocketraider; May 9th, 2009 at 11:21 PM..

May 10th, 2009, 07:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
Oldsguy Hot Rodder at heart Administrator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lees Summit MO Posts: 5,360	Welcome to CO, looking forward to pictures of you car, we have some other Delta owners here that will no doubt keep in contact with you. __________________ Dan '77 Cutlass Supreme '46 2 door "The rocket 455.....it's a sledgehammer approach to a thumbtack world" LuxBlue of HAMB.

May 10th, 2009, 09:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
citcapp Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bothell, WA Posts: 3,453	Welcome and good luck with your restoration __________________ Pat 1957 Super 88 with a 455 1948 2dr series 76 with a 455

May 11th, 2009, 06:27 AM	#8 (permalink)
Operation Deltapower may the Olds be with you Join Date: May 2009 Location: york, PA Posts: 109	welcome and good luck! __________________ THE PAST: 1999 Pontiac Grand Am GT (totalled before her first oil change) 1994 Olds Cutlass Cruiser S (mechanical failure, unable to save) THE NOW: 2003 Ford Taurus SEL (beaten, bruised, and neglected, but still truckin') THE FUTURE: Who Knows???

May 10th, 2009, 06:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
w30hurstolds New User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4	the vin number is 3n67t4m266734 not sure how too decode any help thanks

May 10th, 2009, 07:29 AM	#6 (permalink)
w30hurstolds New User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4	Thanks I am getting ready to do a frame off.Trying to locate parts are not easy.The car is in original condition with 74000 miles on it.Some rust any help on locating nos parts will be a help.

May 11th, 2009, 08:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
wmachine Trying to remember member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,468	Nice find! Definitely worth looking into. More obscure cars like this always interesting to research! __________________ Kurt http://wmachines.shubes.net

May 13th, 2009, 08:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
w30hurstolds New User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4	Yes I bought the car from Ralph Vannatta he lives in ShelbyVille Indiana.

May 22nd, 2009, 09:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ed Cole Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 7	Looking forward to seeing the photos... sounds like a great car.

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