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Hi yall need help I have 1968 W-30 convertible D code on paint the top was blue and interior blue car also blue what color would the stripe be? was black and white only offered in 68 for stripes?? New to sight have been around but not logged in looks like some great info and people.Thanks
In 1968, the Rally Stripe came in the following colors:
A-Black
C-White
O-Orange
R-Red
With the D (Sapphire Blue) paint code, it could come in the following combos: DA, DC, DR.
I'd really like to see a DR combo. haha. That'd be something.
If you're planning on putting a stripe on, you should make sure yours actually had the stripe. If it did not, the 442 emblems on the fenders will be closer to the wheel well and if you put the stripes on, it won't look correct on the fender. Just ask Joe P. here on the boards. He's a big fan of this look.
Thanks for the info,I will check on my W-30 hard top car its the way it left the factory,white-black stripes. the doors on the convertible still have thin white stripe for the body would it also have the fender stripe? my hardtop car has only the fender stripe.The convertible also has a trunk lid that has no rocket emblem above lock and only two holes for emblem on pass side could this be F85 lid? thanks
Last edited by slaughter442; Mar 10, 2009 at 07:41 AM.
If you want to know for sure whether your car had the GT stripes, measure the 442 emblem on the driver's side fender. The center of the emblem hole closest to the edge of the fender nearest the door should be 1 5/8" away from the edge of the fender.
While I can't remember it off the top of my head, if your car did not have the GT stripes, this hole should be something around 2" or a little more away from the edge of the fender. In other words, without Rally Stripes, the 442 is "pushed" closer towards the front end of the car (closer to the wheel well opening).
The difference is great enough that, even if you can't spot the exact hole location under the "2", you should still be able to tell.
Oh, and if anyone has a photo of a blue w/ red stripe '68, I'd love to see it. Or any car with orange Rallye Stripes, for that matter. Never seen either.
Emblem with a GT stripe is ahead as Tom said and it is also higher...also the assembly manual shows two different part numbers for the fenders with the pre-punched holes...one for the rallye stripe and one for the GT stripe...
Hi there. Sorry to revive a 7 year old thread, but I have a stripe color question, too. I just bought a '68 and have enough of both build sheets to get most of the codes. On the build sheet under paint, it says S2 A- (those numbers correspond to: LW UP ST W at the top of teh box). Does that mean it's a Jade Gold, with a black top and black stripes? Just checking my Oldsmobilese!
Hi there. Sorry to revive a 7 year old thread, but I have a stripe color question, too. I just bought a '68 and have enough of both build sheets to get most of the codes. On the build sheet under paint, it says S2 A- (those numbers correspond to: LW UP ST W at the top of teh box). Does that mean it's a Jade Gold, with a black top and black stripes? Just checking my Oldsmobilese!
You really should start a new thread but the easiest way to get an answer is to post a picture of the cowl tag and/or build sheet.
If you have a build sheet you almost definitely don't have a W30. This thread is asking about the W36 stripe (which was standard with W30's and optional on the 442). You would be probably be asking about the GT pinstripe that was standard on all 442's (except those with the W36 stripe). The stripe color chart is the same for the two. The cowl tag or Fisher Broadcast card would not have the stripe color because they were applied during assembly at the Lansing or BOP plant. If you have a build sheet your car would likely be from a BOP plant.
Last edited by allyolds68; Jun 29, 2016 at 08:14 AM.
You really should start a new thread but the easiest way to get an answer is to post a picture of the cowl tag and/or build sheet.
If you have a build sheet you almost definitely don't have a W30. This thread is asking about the W36 stripe (which was standard with W30's and optional on the 442). You would be probably be asking about the GT pinstripe that was standard on all 442's (except those with the W36 stripe). The stripe color chart is the same for the two. The cowl tag or Fisher Broadcast card would not have the stripe color because they were applied during assembly at the Lansing or BOP plant. If you have a build sheet your car would likely be from a BOP plant.
I know I don't have a W-30, but it is a W36 stripe car, Here's a pic of the build sheet with the color block. I think it was a green car with a black top and a black stripe. I've seen a few painted that way, but want to make sure that I have the color right before I send it off to paint in a few months. If I read things right, the "A" under the ST indicates stripe color? A=Black?
I've seen very few build sheets for 68's but your car is a 34487 car and the paint looks to be S2 which is Scarlet (red) with a black vinyl top (also indicated by the 2 in the box above the paint code) and "A" would indicate a black stripe. An S2 on your cowl tag would confirm the paint color.
Are your numerals located in the correct location for the W36 stripe and does the build sheet indicate this option? If not the "A" would be the color of your GT pinstripe
QW motor is a manual trans engine and HF is the M21 Muncie. EC radiator if I read the assembly manual correctly is either for A/C without heavy duty cooling for non- A/C with heavy duty cooling (which doesn't really make sense to me)
I'd love to see a pic of the complete build sheet
Last edited by allyolds68; Jul 1, 2016 at 06:16 AM.
here's a pic of the full sheet from under the seat. The one over the tank was in worse shape. I agree with everything above except the color. S is jade gold, not scarlet red (though it was repainted red at one point).
Your build sheet has it listed. I would think with the original color being Jade Gold, that black or white would have been the likely stripe color, but a gold stripe on the dark green car would be a good combo. I also see that it came with redlines, it would look good with those. My buddy has a '68 442 in Jade Gold (gold interior), and he has been wanting to put redlines on it, just hasn't pulled the trigger.
Your build sheet has it listed. I would think with the original color being Jade Gold, that black or white would have been the likely stripe color, but a gold stripe on the dark green car would be a good combo. I also see that it came with redlines, it would look good with those. My buddy has a '68 442 in Jade Gold (gold interior), and he has been wanting to put redlines on it, just hasn't pulled the trigger.
Funny you should mention redlines... It's got originals on it. Good for show but I would t drive far on em (dry cracks)
Notice that the four headings in Block 44 are:
LW - Lower
UP - Upper
ST - Stripe
W - Wheels (?)
Yup, the W field is for wheel paint. I've seen a variety of codes in this field. Dashes seem to mean the wheel didn't get paint, because it was already the proper default color. Or you'll find a paint code like 48 or 10 for the plain steel wheels so that they will match the lower body color.
Do you know what type of wheel is LS? SS1,2 or steel?
This is a excerpt from a thread that daveh wrote years ago on 68 Cutlass wheels. I'm sure Joe can chime in on the validity of what's stated below as it applies to 442's. I realize Dave's primarily stating what was available for Cutlii, specifically W31's
Also the chrome P05 SS1 wheels were not available on any Cutlass model at the time the 68 Ramrods were built (50 in Jan, 1968, and 450 more in Marchand April 1968). Only the plain steel 14 x 6 (442) wheels were available(standard equipment) and the new for 1968 Motor Wheel SSII released later under the N66 option code. Huge problem with people that ordered early 1968 Cutlasses with the chrome Magnum 500 style SS1 P05 wheels, but car was delivered with these new painted wheels. Olds screwed up here and substituted in the wheel change early in the 1968 model year in the same option designation (P05) without telling the dealers or anyone else. Not good. Many pissed off buyers that wanted the chrome wheel and didn't (and couldn't) get the one they wanted. I heard of dealers changing them to the SS1's when customers were irate and refused delivery of the car unless they did. Very few W31's (or 442's for that matter) came out with plain wheels and dog dishes. Ones that did were slated only for racing, or the owners went straight to the tire stores and bought a set of chrome reverse, Cragar SS, or other aftermarket wheels. You wouldn't be seen dead with plain el strippo wheels. Ones that did ran without the hub caps anyway.
Your trim rings do not appear to be "brushed" which would be correct for 68 so they may not be original. 68 rims did not have the five stainless steel trim pieces either, the perimeter of the holes were painted white.
If you don't have two clips in the rear of the trunk you would have definitely originally had body colored steel wheels. SSII wheels (or SS1's????) had the lug wrench stowed in these clips. Steel wheels had the lug wrench stowed in a sleeve on the shaft of the jack under the tire.
Last edited by allyolds68; Jul 6, 2016 at 05:28 AM.
The posting of this build sheet has helped me answer some questions I have been working on. This is a very well optioned car; gauges, wood wheel, M-21,G-80, W-36 (with Y-70 delete), HD cooling, bench seat, & nice color.
In the midst of getting a vintage vehicle report done on my 68 442 vert project I just purchased. The guy is having trouble finding out what colour the stripe is. I do have the original fender on the car and the stripe looked black but after wiping it looks blue. But they didn’t have blue as an option for 68 so I don’t know but he said even the code though the vin doesn’t line up
In the midst of getting a vintage vehicle report done on my 68 442 vert project I just purchased. The guy is having trouble finding out what colour the stripe is. I do have the original fender on the car and the stripe looked black but after wiping it looks blue. But they didn’t have blue as an option for 68 so I don’t know but he said even the code though the vin doesn’t line up
there isn’t anything in the VIN that will identify fender stripe color
all the VIN tells you is that it’s a 68 442 convertible.
A Lansing cowl tag won’t tell you anything either.
I can’t remember if VVS (I assume you’re referring to VVS and the car was imported into Canada) can tell you the stripe color. They will tell you if the stripe is original (option code W36) which this fender appears to be.
Last edited by allyolds68; Aug 9, 2023 at 03:44 PM.