Difference in 54 Super88 and 88 - and where to find parts?
#1
Difference in 54 Super88 and 88 - and where to find parts?
I am planning to "restore" a 54 Olds - first problem is that I'm not sure if it's an 88 or a Super88 - or if it really matters in terms of looking for parts.
I have done some digging, and apparently supers had a 4bbl and others had a 2bbl? This car had a 4bbl, but I don't know if it was original equip.
(the car was my father-in-law's - it's been parked in a basement since 1970, and he passed away several years ago. He was a mechanic, so it's easily believable that he swapped the carb)
I've never done anything like this so I don't know where to look for parts - I'd love any suggestions on the best place to look.
Yes, I'm lost... I hope someone can help start me in the right direction.
I have done some digging, and apparently supers had a 4bbl and others had a 2bbl? This car had a 4bbl, but I don't know if it was original equip.
(the car was my father-in-law's - it's been parked in a basement since 1970, and he passed away several years ago. He was a mechanic, so it's easily believable that he swapped the carb)
I've never done anything like this so I don't know where to look for parts - I'd love any suggestions on the best place to look.
Yes, I'm lost... I hope someone can help start me in the right direction.
#3
Welcome to the site.
As to your first question - the VIN is your answer...
First 3 digits - "547..." is a 'regular' 88, "548" is a 'Super' 88
for the most part, the regular 88's had 2 bbl carbs, but the 4 bbl was optional as a 'power pac' - or as you said, it could have been switched
For parts, Fusick is the biggest supplier of reproduction parts
http://fusick.com/catalogdownload.htm
Download Catalog 560
If he doesn't have it, you'll have to scour the earth, just like the rest of us!
If you have specific needs, post them - people here are helpful.
And we love photos...
Good luck
As to your first question - the VIN is your answer...
First 3 digits - "547..." is a 'regular' 88, "548" is a 'Super' 88
for the most part, the regular 88's had 2 bbl carbs, but the 4 bbl was optional as a 'power pac' - or as you said, it could have been switched
For parts, Fusick is the biggest supplier of reproduction parts
http://fusick.com/catalogdownload.htm
Download Catalog 560
If he doesn't have it, you'll have to scour the earth, just like the rest of us!
If you have specific needs, post them - people here are helpful.
And we love photos...
Good luck
#4
It's got the hood off now, so I guess that's close to ripping it's shirt off
I had looked, obviously not hard enough, for a vin decoder that could tell me a while back. I've started to start on this a couple of times over the past few years - but I'm just now seriously planning to get it done. It spent about 7 months at a shop that was going to do all of the work for me. I found that I was being shafted/scammed/whatever, so a mechanic buddy is going to help me do it "myself" (meaning I find parts and hand him tools LOL)
See if this works for some pics..
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1&l=049dbfa2a5
For now I've been told to find radiator hoses, heater hoses, heater blower motor, and electric wiper conversion - the block, heads and crank are at the machine shop, and the trans is at another shop being rebuilt. We are currently just stripping the engine bay to see where we are - the reason for the current strange list of parts he sent me after..
I had looked, obviously not hard enough, for a vin decoder that could tell me a while back. I've started to start on this a couple of times over the past few years - but I'm just now seriously planning to get it done. It spent about 7 months at a shop that was going to do all of the work for me. I found that I was being shafted/scammed/whatever, so a mechanic buddy is going to help me do it "myself" (meaning I find parts and hand him tools LOL)
See if this works for some pics..
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1&l=049dbfa2a5
For now I've been told to find radiator hoses, heater hoses, heater blower motor, and electric wiper conversion - the block, heads and crank are at the machine shop, and the trans is at another shop being rebuilt. We are currently just stripping the engine bay to see where we are - the reason for the current strange list of parts he sent me after..
#5
If you have the old hoses(radiator and heater) take them to your local auto parts store they can match them up with what they have, thats standard stuff and you don't need to buy from a specialty supplier.The blower motor, if not to damaged can be rebuilt or if you have the numbers on it try Granger or an electrical shop. I believe mine is a new motor and is an exact duplicate of the Olds. You can get a new electric wiper motor from Newport Industries. Try a search on this forum on electric wiper motor replacement, there is a thread that will walk you through this with ease and save you some grief ...Hope this helps some of us have been where your are many times, each time it gets easier....Tedd
here are a couple links that should help....https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...-electric.html...............................
..https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...oday-55-a.html....
https://www.newportwipers.com/index.php
here are a couple links that should help....https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...-electric.html...............................
..https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...oday-55-a.html....
https://www.newportwipers.com/index.php
Last edited by Tedd Thompson; February 27th, 2014 at 10:16 AM.
#6
1954 OLDS parts
And, if you would prefer an option to Fusick's (off-shore) reproduction items
and not having to scour the earth for endless hours and hours and finding a piece here and a piece there --- I have planty of N.O.S. items in the mechanical world --- brakes, front end, ignition, electrical, engine parts, and on and on...... sorry, no cosmetic, interior, or "used" parts -- fenders, quarters, etc. --- that's where this website is SPECTACULAR -- you're linked with lots of other people who have these cars and parts cars.....
If ever you need me, call Craig -- 516 - 485 - 1935... New York .. anytime!!!
and not having to scour the earth for endless hours and hours and finding a piece here and a piece there --- I have planty of N.O.S. items in the mechanical world --- brakes, front end, ignition, electrical, engine parts, and on and on...... sorry, no cosmetic, interior, or "used" parts -- fenders, quarters, etc. --- that's where this website is SPECTACULAR -- you're linked with lots of other people who have these cars and parts cars.....
If ever you need me, call Craig -- 516 - 485 - 1935... New York .. anytime!!!
#7
Thanks everyone! I checked and it is a Super.. WooHoo - LOL... It's a neat car with a good family history (my wife was brought home from the hospital in it when she was born).
Now that I am actually working on getting it on the road, I'm getting more and more anxious.
I don't think the facebook gallery link worked, so here are a couple of pics...
This is where it sat from 1970-2005
Engine bay now:
Just had to see what the dash would look like.. spent about 30 minutes with a bottle of all-surface windex:
Now that I am actually working on getting it on the road, I'm getting more and more anxious.
I don't think the facebook gallery link worked, so here are a couple of pics...
This is where it sat from 1970-2005
Engine bay now:
Just had to see what the dash would look like.. spent about 30 minutes with a bottle of all-surface windex:
#9
those tires are long gone - they were dry rotted beyond a point I'd attempt driving on them, mismatched front to rear, etc... That is the ONE thing the shop it was at did - replace the tires - It's on new vintage wide whitewalls now.
I kinda looked and didn't see any - but do people ever start rebuild/restore threads to just post pictures and updates of their projects?
I kinda looked and didn't see any - but do people ever start rebuild/restore threads to just post pictures and updates of their projects?
#10
Here's mine (needs updating, but...)
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...storation.html
#11
I love 54's. This is a special car to your family and it is good to see it being restored. The steering wheel looks like it has power steering on the top of it. I would love to have one of those. They are pretty rare.
#12
I thought that steering wheel was a 53 fiesta wheel only thing, and if that wheel is cracked (looks like it from the picture) it can be repaired like near new even with all the cracks.....Tedd
#13
Great looking car and it looks very solid and complete. That should make the project go much faster and be easier on your budget.
I'm not an expert on these cars but for some reason I was thinking a Super 88 came with a padded dash. But since there is not one on this car I guess that can't be the case?
Honestly, I need to stop looking at threads like this because I start to get too many ideas running around in my head as I really like these 54 88's.
Brian
I'm not an expert on these cars but for some reason I was thinking a Super 88 came with a padded dash. But since there is not one on this car I guess that can't be the case?
Honestly, I need to stop looking at threads like this because I start to get too many ideas running around in my head as I really like these 54 88's.
Brian
#14
Great looking car and it looks very solid and complete. That should make the project go much faster and be easier on your budget.
I'm not an expert on these cars but for some reason I was thinking a Super 88 came with a padded dash. But since there is not one on this car I guess that can't be the case?
Honestly, I need to stop looking at threads like this because I start to get too many ideas running around in my head as I really like these 54 88's.
Brian
I'm not an expert on these cars but for some reason I was thinking a Super 88 came with a padded dash. But since there is not one on this car I guess that can't be the case?
Honestly, I need to stop looking at threads like this because I start to get too many ideas running around in my head as I really like these 54 88's.
Brian
#16
I think the padded dash was a lot more common on the 98 than the 88 or Super 88 although I have several on Super 88's but they were not standard. I thought backup lights were standard on the Super 88 but found out recently they were not. I don't remember ever seeing a Super 88 without backup lights. The big thing was the Super 88 basically had the 98 engine with the 4 barrel carb. There were a couple extra outside trim items and the interiors were nicer on the Super 88.
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