TH350 to TH400, 72 Cutlass
#1
TH350 to TH400, 72 Cutlass
Hello,
I'm swapping out my stock TH350 transmission for a TH400, for my 1972 Cutlass. Do I need any new brackets/linkage/cables/ etc.? So far besides the build I have a new tranny mount for it, but that's it.
Thank you
I'm swapping out my stock TH350 transmission for a TH400, for my 1972 Cutlass. Do I need any new brackets/linkage/cables/ etc.? So far besides the build I have a new tranny mount for it, but that's it.
Thank you
#3
Way back in high school, before I knew much about cars in general and Olds in particular, I swapped a 400 in place of the TH350 in my 69. I used a couple extra parking brake guides in strategic places to take up the couple extra inches in cable slack. It’s not technically the correct way to do it, but it will work and function fine. Later in life when I parted out a care that had the correct parts I swapped for the right parts. The cable that goes from the parking brake pedal on a 400 car is a little longer, the intermediate cable is a little shorter. The trans crossmember is moved back about an inch or so.
#5
Don't waste money on cutting the existing driveshaft, have them make you a new solid tube driveshaft with new parts.
"2 piece" driveshaft came on (small block, low power) AT cars and it will separate at the isolation joint, especially with added power of the new engine.
"2 piece" driveshaft came on (small block, low power) AT cars and it will separate at the isolation joint, especially with added power of the new engine.
#7
Food for thought... I don't know if it matters to you or if you are aware that a TH400 has a greater paracidic driveline loss vs a TH350. This means less HP/torque to the wheels. It is enough that you may not like the results? I did this swap on my first car 72 Biscayne with a 350/350 and noticed the loss right away. Couldn't kill that TH400 no matter how hard I beat on it.
#9
FYI you can easily build the TH 350 to handle the power your engine puts out. Mine was build with Jake's performance stage 2 kit and it's been putting up with the abuse from BBO for last 5 years.
#10
Food for thought... I don't know if it matters to you or if you are aware that a TH400 has a greater paracidic driveline loss vs a TH350. This means less HP/torque to the wheels. It is enough that you may not like the results? I did this swap on my first car 72 Biscayne with a 350/350 and noticed the loss right away. Couldn't kill that TH400 no matter how hard I beat on it.
Well, the 350 is a 434ci stroker and just put down 530hp/580tq. I think the TH400 will suffice.
#12
#13
All other cables can be reused from my TH350? kick down cables, etc?
#14
EDIT: IF by chance you have a trans that was designed with the TCS system, there will be two terminals on the trans.
Looks like this: Connect the wire to the detent terminal of you have two terminals.
Last edited by svnt442; March 21st, 2019 at 10:08 PM.
#15
With ease, if built properly with right parts th 350 will put up with much more than that. When my new engine arrived from Mark I was debating on going with th400, after talking to my transmission guy and realizing that it might be more cost effective and less work for me, I decided to keep and build up my th350. The only thing I added was a big transmission cooler.
#16
With ease, if built properly with right parts th 350 will put up with much more than that. When my new engine arrived from Mark I was debating on going with th400, after talking to my transmission guy and realizing that it might be more cost effective and less work for me, I decided to keep and build up my th350. The only thing I added was a big transmission cooler.
#17
I have built a few 350 trans in low 10-high 9 second cars. The biggest weakness in the intermediate sprag. You can’t install a upgraded sprag like a 400, you have to buy a custom aftermarket drum with a bigger sprag (I thing the sprag used is from a C6 ford trans, or maybe a 4T80 trans). The drum is pretty expensive, plus when the factory part breaks it usually tears up other stuff. It if’s a light weight car, with a low RPM engine, the 350 will have a better chance of durable life. Heavy cars with a engine that really buzzes the tach, the sprag becomes a costly durability concern.
#18
#21
GM designed and built the TH400 at considerable expense to handle their big block torque monster engines. Modifying a 350 might be fine for someone who knows what they are doing and has a specific goal in mind, but for a motor putting out nearly 600 lb-ft I thing the extra losses incurred with a 400 don't really matter, nor do I thing fuel economy is a factor either. Starting with a transmission stronger from the factory seems the way to go to me.
Roger.
Roger.
#22
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...ake+cable,1696
#23
Rockauto or your local autoparts store carry parking brake cables
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...ake+cable,1696
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...ake+cable,1696
#24
Rockauto or your local autoparts store carry parking brake cables
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...ake+cable,1696
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...ake+cable,1696
COMPLETE SET INCLUDES:
(1) Front cable
(1) Intermediate cable
(2) Rear cables
(1) Large S-hook
(2) Small S-hooks
(2) Connectors
(3) Clips
(1) Equalizer.
#25
#26
I Have built a few Th350's and currently running one that was behind a friends 455 running low 11's . The TH350 can handle the power and wont eat as much up as the TH400 and the Th400 has much bigger and heavier internals. To put some perspective to it guys in stock eliminator are running metric 200's because they are light . The th400 in stock form isn't as strong as many think. They still have their weak areas and need work to handle anything over a mild built 455. In stock form its stronger but has much more rotating mass but there is a fine point where it will need some work to live .
To all those saying the th400 can take a beating. I killed a th400 behind a mild 350 running low 13's 6 years ago and it wasn't the builder some hard parts failed.
To all those saying the th400 can take a beating. I killed a th400 behind a mild 350 running low 13's 6 years ago and it wasn't the builder some hard parts failed.
Last edited by coppercutlass; March 24th, 2019 at 12:46 PM.
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