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Old July 12th, 2018, 08:52 AM
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Shifter linkage

I read somewhere a while back that GM used Hurst shifters but used their own linkage rods, etc. in the A body cars. Has anyone else heard this? Thanks.
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Old July 12th, 2018, 08:56 AM
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Correct.

The GM version of the Hurst shifters are different from the aftermarket.

Rods, clips, and bushings are different.

The GM Hurst shifters use a bayonet mount, and the aftermarket ones use bolts.

The GM Hurst shifters do not have a stop bolt.

The handles for GM shifters are make and model specific.

The only thing that is common is the Hurst name.

Pete Serio wrote a book on Hurst, and it is a wealth of knowledge on the shifters.
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Old July 12th, 2018, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by My442
The only thing that is common is the Hurst name.

That's unfairly harsh. The similarities are more common than the differences. The basic shifter mechanism is the same for factory shifters and an aftermarket Competition Plus. The biggest difference is the stop bolts. The aftermarket shifters have the nuts welded to the outer housings for the bolts. You can swap these parts from an aftermarket to a factory shifter if you want stop bolts. The internals are the same.


The snap-in stick is only for ease of assembly line installation. The shifter (less handle) is bolted to the trans and dropped into the frame before the body. The body is dropped, and the handle is snapped into place later on the assembly line. There just wasn't time to send someone into the car to reach down and start then torque two bolts (and look for one after it gets dropped).



Naturally the sticks are application-unique. They are for the aftermarket shifters also. Add the fact that the sticks need to clear unique consoles, and obviously you need unique sticks. Back in the day, Hurst sold dozens of different aftermarket sticks for specific applications. Most of those have been dropped over the years as demand fell off.


The differences in the rods again is primarily to simplify installation and adjustment on the assembly line. Function is the same.
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Old July 12th, 2018, 02:27 PM
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Joe,

Please post the interchange chart between the factory Hurst and the aftermarket Hurst.

Then we can debate "harsh".

What are you, a snowflake????
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Originally Posted by My442

What are you, a snowflake????

Seriously dude?


Thanks for your insightful and informative post.
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Seriously dude?


Thanks for your insightful and informative post.
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Thanks for the information, I am looking for a linkage rod from a 67 442 for 1st/2nd gear. Will also post in parts wanted.
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Originally Posted by 67Rocket
Thanks for the information, I am looking for a linkage rod from a 67 442 for 1st/2nd gear. Will also post in parts wanted.

The Hurst aftermarket rods will work but won't look exactly like OEM due to the different adjustment provision.
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