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Old January 29th, 2015, 10:40 PM
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70 or 71 toro what should I save?

396870m619689 is the vin. Based on another thread I believe it's a 70. I am keeping the engine. The car is not mine... Just the engine The rest of the car will probably end up in the crusher but I can pretty much take off any parts I want for a fee.. Anything valuable I should be saving?
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Old January 29th, 2015, 10:48 PM
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Is the front bumper desirable? It's in good shape. Sadly the rear was smashed.
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Old January 29th, 2015, 10:52 PM
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I hope to pull the motor this weekend. It will be fun to get the castings off the engine n see what's I gots!!!
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Well from the pictures it appears to be a 1970 Toronado GT (W-34), which are pretty rare. Those had the higher lift engine cam, and a special performance geared transmission. There is allot of first and possibly second generation Toronado owners who would want the transmission. The transmission should have a black colored tag with the letters OM. Otherwise there is a ton of good parts on it. Probably nothing worth allot of money, but things like good tail light lenses will sell for like $20 - $30 each. The front bumper looks to be in good shape, so that should be worth $250 - $300 easy...
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Old January 30th, 2015, 06:53 AM
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It's to bad it got parked. Under side is very rusty. It's actually from a salvage yard. Is there any other things to look at to confirm this?? It has E heads if that means anything. And I swear I seen a 71 emissions sticker in the door jamb. The air cleaner has the standard intake snout. Not the "cold" air intake which I gathered is a desirable motor. I paid 300 for the engine. Was that a bit high? Or ballpark? Thanks for the reply!
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Old January 30th, 2015, 08:24 AM
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IMO there is a ton of great parts on this one. Strip it down hard. Glass, sheet metal etc...Lot of meat left on the bones. Put it in the for sale thread. Im sure someone doing a 70 will be glad to salvage what you don't want.
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Old January 30th, 2015, 09:44 AM
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I don't see any W34 cues
E heads and the VIN peg it as 1970
Check the trans tag, driver side, easy to find. OM = a keeper, OJ = common
What to save? Just about everything that's still serviceable.
Lights, lenses, ***** and switches....

300 for a Toronado 455 with big valve E heads seems downright affordable to me...
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Yeah, $300's not bad for a motor that you can turn.

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Old January 30th, 2015, 11:05 AM
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We were going to start it but something in the starting circuit is bad clicking but no banging lol. I think the solenoid is bad. I can cross the terminals on the starter spins like a son of a gun. We plan to freshen the motor up anyways so I'll be going through it. It hasn't been on the road since 83 lol.
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It has the black tag with the OM on it plus it has gt badging. Cool I guess lol
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Old January 30th, 2015, 05:41 PM
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Save all W34 parts...
Trans
Final drive
OAI
Radiator
Shroud
probably 100's of special parts

Can you get it to a hoarder like me in your area where it will be safe?
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More or less lol. I'm kinda a kwick turnaround guy. If it can't be sold its scrap lol. I've got safe places to put valuable parts though. I tried to get the whole car but they didn't want to sell it for some reason. They have new clue what it is. It's the junkyard owners old car. Idk maybe he likes it.
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Originally Posted by I am Phil
It's to bad it got parked. Under side is very rusty. It's actually from a salvage yard. Is there any other things to look at to confirm this?? It has E heads if that means anything. And I swear I seen a 71 emissions sticker in the door jamb. The air cleaner has the standard intake snout. Not the "cold" air intake which I gathered is a desirable motor. I paid 300 for the engine. Was that a bit high? Or ballpark? Thanks for the reply!
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You defiantly struck gold getting an early H/C 455 W-34 engine for $300.00. I would have gladly paid $300.00 just for the high lift engine camshaft out of it. The 1968 to 1970 Toronado 455's engines are extremely desirable. Oldsmobile considered the First Generation Toronado's the cream of the crop. Oldsmobile equipped them with the most powerful versions of the 425 and 455. Unfortunately allot of these cars are simply purchased for their engines and then scrapped. The W34 Toronado's are extremely rare. It was only offered from 68 to 70 with 68 being the rarest. The 68 Toronado was also the only year the Toronado was equipped with the cold air intake.

1968 - Oldsmobile Built approximately 111 W-34's
1969 - Oldsmobile Built approximately 3000 W-34's
1970 - Oldsmobile Built approximately 5341 W-34's

I would defiantly be interested in purchasing the transmission torque converter out of it for my 68...
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Here is a two part article on identifying a W34 Toronado from the Front Wheel Driver in case anyone is interested...

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http://adobe.ly/1DOZlDZ

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http://adobe.ly/1IlYwZG

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Are you still picking parts off of this car? Does it happen to have a power bench seat?
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