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Old February 19th, 2018, 09:20 AM
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I am buying a 1967 Cutlass that has the original rated 320HP 330CID engine in it now running very well,however I have a built 1969 455 sitting in the garage.I heard the 330 is a very good motor but was just wondering if youall think a swap is in order.I think all the brackets and accesories swap over as well as the headers,so...any thoughts?
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Old February 19th, 2018, 09:41 AM
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The 455 will swap as the 67 came with a 400 also. If your saying the 330 headers will swap to the 455, I don't think so. You may have some cooling issues and the ST300 transmission may not survive with any abuse.
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It's your car. Depends what end result you are looking for. I myself wouldn't do it. Then again, that's me.
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If you have a good big block use it. I'm a small block guy and have enough parts to build a few so that's what I run as its whats available to me.
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If you decide on the swap make sure you keep the 330 in case you or someone else wants to reurn it to original.
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Old February 19th, 2018, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cutlass Fan
If you decide on the swap make sure you keep the 330 in case you or someone else wants to reurn it to original.
how come the headers may not work? Is it bolt pattern or deck height issue?
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Old February 19th, 2018, 06:03 PM
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The headers between big block and small block are designed to accommodate the deck height
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I bought my 67 with nice running 330 last year and I will say this: if anything could use a benefit from doing a swap it’s the 2 Speed Jetaway auto tranny (if it’s still there). What a dog! I’ve got a TH350 ready to swap when I get a chance. Mine has bad solenoids for the switch pitch original torque converter. Trans fuse pops after a minute or two of driving. I’ve troubleshooted everything and even reconditioned the switch pitch controls at the carb..... It shifts and drives great but with out the variable torque converter function it’s total garbage! I’m stuck with a 1.5:1 and 1:1 gear or something like that..... Do yourself a favor and do a TH350/TH400/later overdrive/manual.... I now fully agree with the term Junkaway!
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Originally Posted by coppercutlass
The headers between big block and small block are designed to accommodate the deck height
Yup, and the headers themselves aren’t the real issue, they always have a bad rep of not fitting well. Your problem will be that the 67 and earlier A body frame will interfere more than the later cars. I bought a set of the cheap $150 Ebay stainless headers that I want to experiment on. Headers in a 67 can be a horror story but I’m all about kicking a challenge in the ***.
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How did you like those ebay headers as far as quality goes ????
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Originally Posted by scareyslo
how come the headers may not work? Is it bolt pattern or deck height issue?
Yes its a deck height issue. However, if you have a set of headers that will work on the 330 that were not all beat to hell, you can sell them and buy a set for the BBO.
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How did you like those ebay headers as far as quality goes ????
I think for the price they are pretty damn amazing actually. Free and fast shipping too? I figure if I’m gonna have to knock some dents in them they are worth it. I haven’t fitup anything yet though. But since you know I deal heavily in the Classic VW stuff, it blows away any bug header for under $200 by a million miles. They’re up high on some shelves in my shop but I can pull them down and take some pics if you want. I have a custom A1 brand tig welded header for my VW truck that was about $450. And that’s only for 4 cylinders.... the Ebay headers are about 75% of the same quality. Pretty happy for something that will get some dents and scratches from actually driving it!

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No worries I was curious as I may buy a set.
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I would keep the 330 and concentrate on the transmission.
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Old February 20th, 2018, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Cutlass Fan
If you decide on the swap make sure you keep the 330 in case you or someone else wants to reurn it to original.
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No worries I was curious as I may buy a set.
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I think for the price they are pretty damn amazing actually. Free and fast shipping too? I figure if I’m gonna have to knock some dents in them they are worth it. I haven’t fitup anything yet though. But since you know I deal heavily in the Classic VW stuff, it blows away any bug header for under $200 by a million miles. They’re up high on some shelves in my shop but I can pull them down and take some pics if you want. I have a custom A1 brand tig welded header for my VW truck that was about $450. And that’s only for 4 cylinders.... the Ebay headers are about 75% of the same quality. Pretty happy for something that will get some dents and scratches from actually driving it!
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I would keep the 330 and concentrate on the transmission.
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Trivia-I thought in 67 Cutlass the transmissions were TH400 or did they save those for the big cars?? 64-66 had the Jetaways?
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Old February 20th, 2018, 02:18 PM
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Switch pitch T400 came on 1967 A bodies with a BBO. 330's in A bodies still recieved the switch pitch ST300 (jetaway).
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AH GOTCHA, so the 442's had the T400's, 330's had the slide-away.
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Old February 21st, 2018, 06:22 AM
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sure do wish I had a switch pitch 400 in the 67,but whatever was in it originally got changed to a THM 350.Not a bad choice for a small block, but I dont know if it would hold up to the torque of a good running 455
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Originally Posted by coppercutlass
No worries I was curious as I may buy a set.
They hang fairly low but so do Hooker A body headers. The Stainless Chinese headers are decent, I plan on set for my Dakota $150 Canadian shipped with a JBA mandrel Y pipe, which actually costs $50 more than the headers.
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Originally Posted by 1967Supreeeme
I bought my 67 with nice running 330 last year and I will say this: if anything could use a benefit from doing a swap it’s the 2 Speed Jetaway auto tranny (if it’s still there). What a dog! I’ve got a TH350 ready to swap when I get a chance. Mine has bad solenoids for the switch pitch original torque converter. Trans fuse pops after a minute or two of driving. I’ve troubleshooted everything and even reconditioned the switch pitch controls at the carb..... It shifts and drives great but with out the variable torque converter function it’s total garbage! I’m stuck with a 1.5:1 and 1:1 gear or something like that..... Do yourself a favor and do a TH350/TH400/later overdrive/manual.... I now fully agree with the term Junkaway!
Agreed. The ST300 is such a piece of crap. I swapped mine out for a th350. Direct bolt in.
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