swapping from a 350 th400 to a 455 5 speed
#1
swapping from a 350 th400 to a 455 5 speed
what do i need to swap from a 350 auto to a 455 5 speed tremec in a 72 delta 88
i know i need the following
bucket seats
crank adaptor
motor mounts
flywheel
headers
drive shaft
clutch
pedals
hydrolic throw out replacing the z bar
i know i need the following
bucket seats
crank adaptor
motor mounts
flywheel
headers
drive shaft
clutch
pedals
hydrolic throw out replacing the z bar
#2
Your other problem will obviously be the pedals. 1971 was the last time the D88 was offered with a manual trans, and there were precious few of those built. I believe Impalas were available with a manual trans for a couple of years after that, and the Impala pedals will fit, but good luck finding those also. You're likely stuck fabricating something from an extra brake pedal.
Finally, you don't HAVE to convert to bucket seats. Lots of vehicles were built with a manual trans and bench. You just need the right shifter stick.
Good luck.
#3
The one thing you DON'T need on that list is motor mounts. If you check the parts books, you'll find that the 1971-up full size cars all use 2328 style motor mounts no matter if it's a 350 or a 455. Despite everything you might read on the web, the different motor mounts were NOT big block/small block, they were to match the frame mounts.
Your other problem will obviously be the pedals. 1971 was the last time the D88 was offered with a manual trans, and there were precious few of those built. I believe Impalas were available with a manual trans for a couple of years after that, and the Impala pedals will fit, but good luck finding those also. You're likely stuck fabricating something from an extra brake pedal.
Finally, you don't HAVE to convert to bucket seats. Lots of vehicles were built with a manual trans and bench. You just need the right shifter stick.
Good luck.
Your other problem will obviously be the pedals. 1971 was the last time the D88 was offered with a manual trans, and there were precious few of those built. I believe Impalas were available with a manual trans for a couple of years after that, and the Impala pedals will fit, but good luck finding those also. You're likely stuck fabricating something from an extra brake pedal.
Finally, you don't HAVE to convert to bucket seats. Lots of vehicles were built with a manual trans and bench. You just need the right shifter stick.
Good luck.
#4
Certainly add buckets if that's what you want. My point is that it's kinda cool to have a floor shifter sticking up in front of a bench seat. As far as mounting buckets, if you find one, a 71-76 Ninety Eight with the split bench front seat (a real split bench, not a bench that has fold down backrests for a two door), the seat tracks are the same as bucket seat tracks. The split bench was really just two wide bucket seats that touched in the middle.
#5
Unless someone makes an aftermarket pedal set for the 71-76 full size cars, I suspect that adapting a street rod pedal set will be more work than it's worth. Consider my suggestion of modifying two AT brake pedals. You can easily trim the pedal pad down to MT sizes, and you can easily heat and bend the arm. You'll need to cut down the length of the pivot tube at the top, but at the end of the day, the arms will be the right length and close to the right shape.
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#6
I have no idea if A-body pedals are even close. Starting with two of the B-body pedals means that the brake side is trivially easy. Pivot point is right, pushrod attachment is right, and pedal ratio is right. The pedal arm is shaped to clear the steering column as well. I'd rather simply trim the pedal pad than mess with all those brake force variables. Now you only have to modify one pedal.
#8
#9
yep and im tossing around the idea of a m22 or m20 4 speed instead of the tremec the pedals im fine with modifying universals the seats i just like the look of buckets
#11
Good choice going with the Muncie for now, you can always just bolt in the Tremec later. I would consider finding one with the fine spline input shaft, stronger and you won't have to change the clutch disc when you do upgrade to the five speed.
Also I'm going to side with Joe on the bench seat vs buckets. All you need is a shifter handle with the correct bend to clear the seat. I had a 69 GTO with a bench seat and a 4 speed. One of the things i likes about the bench is the arm rest which you don't get, even with a console they are too low to be a true "arm rest". Just my .02. I love the idea of a Delta with a stick shift! Looking forward to your project.
Also I'm going to side with Joe on the bench seat vs buckets. All you need is a shifter handle with the correct bend to clear the seat. I had a 69 GTO with a bench seat and a 4 speed. One of the things i likes about the bench is the arm rest which you don't get, even with a console they are too low to be a true "arm rest". Just my .02. I love the idea of a Delta with a stick shift! Looking forward to your project.
#12
Good choice going with the Muncie for now, you can always just bolt in the Tremec later. I would consider finding one with the fine spline input shaft, stronger and you won't have to change the clutch disc when you do upgrade to the five speed.
Also I'm going to side with Joe on the bench seat vs buckets. All you need is a shifter handle with the correct bend to clear the seat. I had a 69 GTO with a bench seat and a 4 speed. One of the things i likes about the bench is the arm rest which you don't get, even with a console they are too low to be a true "arm rest". Just my .02. I love the idea of a Delta with a stick shift! Looking forward to your project.
Also I'm going to side with Joe on the bench seat vs buckets. All you need is a shifter handle with the correct bend to clear the seat. I had a 69 GTO with a bench seat and a 4 speed. One of the things i likes about the bench is the arm rest which you don't get, even with a console they are too low to be a true "arm rest". Just my .02. I love the idea of a Delta with a stick shift! Looking forward to your project.
#14
the only reason the swap is on hold is my th400 is whining in reverse and flarring in 3rd and its my daily
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