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Old October 12th, 2012, 04:51 AM
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Vin stamping on 455

e6 stamping on 455 where part of the cars vin i supposed to be, is this a replacement block, red with a forged crank
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Old October 12th, 2012, 05:43 AM
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Very few 455s had forged cranks.

Are these characters stamped into the small pad on the driver's side front of the engine, facing the driver's fender liner?



A photo or two would help.

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Great first post

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e6 stamping on 455 where part of the cars vin i supposed to be, is this a replacement block, red with a forged crank
Wow...could someone translate this into English?
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Yes, they are stamped on the small pad at the front of the motor. The motor also had a set of D heads on it, ported and stamped by Mondello. It also came with a 1970 w30 intake. I wanted to figure out the exact year of the motor, but there was nothing but e6 stamped on it. I beleive it was a motor sent to a local guy here in Colorado from Olds that raced Toronados at the Pikes Peak hill climb here in town. He still has one of his cars, and his block is stamped in a similar manner. He has the same heads ported by Mondello. He said the Toros were sent to him to be modified followed by the motors. Hence, the motors sent to him by Olds never had the vin stamping on them to any particular car. They were somewhat special motors sent to olds sanctioned racers of the era. This same gentleman was an Olds superstar and also was the recipient of an all aluminum 455 that he recently sold. The reason of the Topic of disussion is because I have a freind that has a 1969 HO with a non matching motor and was wondering if this motor would qualify as a factory relacement block for his car.
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Sounds like you know more about this motor than most of us could tell you.

As for whether the motor could be expected to be judged as original at a concours event, one of our forum members who is associated with the OCA might be able to tell you.

From what I understand, replacement blocks / engines were shipped with no stamping on the VIN pad, and the installing mechanic was expected to re-stamp the car's original number onto the pad, but often left it blank.
I do not know whether a non-standard stamping, such as "E6," would be accepted.

By the way, we'd all love to see pictures of this engine.

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Originally Posted by MDchanic

By the way, we'd all love to see pictures of this engine.

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I am wondering the font of the stamping and if E = experimental
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I just added a few pics of the motor and heads up top for all who wanted to see!
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It is as you say.

Interesting pistons.

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They are domed. Pikes Peak race is at a high elevation, so you need a little compression.
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Right. Elevation.

I've got it now. Makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Nickyloves442s
Yes, they are stamped on the small pad at the front of the motor. The motor also had a set of D heads on it, ported and stamped by Mondello. It also came with a 1970 w30 intake. I wanted to figure out the exact year of the motor, but there was nothing but e6 stamped on it. I beleive it was a motor sent to a local guy here in Colorado from Olds that raced Toronados at the Pikes Peak hill climb here in town. He still has one of his cars, and his block is stamped in a similar manner. He has the same heads ported by Mondello. He said the Toros were sent to him to be modified followed by the motors. Hence, the motors sent to him by Olds never had the vin stamping on them to any particular car. They were somewhat special motors sent to olds sanctioned racers of the era. This same gentleman was an Olds superstar and also was the recipient of an all aluminum 455 that he recently sold. The reason of the Topic of disussion is because I have a freind that has a 1969 HO with a non matching motor and was wondering if this motor would qualify as a factory relacement block for his car.
It sure looks like a factory back door deal to me. Are you talking about Petersen, who raced the Olds up Pikes Peak? Thanks for the pictures.
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Yes.
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