1969 H/O PCV Dual set up ??
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1969 H/O PCV Dual set up ??
Is there any performance advantage to running the dual PCV set up like the 1969 H/O?
I have seen a few engine pictures of JR stock engines with extra breathers to help evacuate the crank case.
I have seen a few engine pictures of JR stock engines with extra breathers to help evacuate the crank case.
Last edited by Bernhard; December 19th, 2017 at 07:25 PM.
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The PCV system consists of a heavy vacuum hose that connects the PCV valve from the intake manifold (or valve cover) to a fitting on the front of the carburetor.
That is a basic pollution-control system that takes fumes from the crankcase and then to the carb; this keeps blow-by from escaping into the atmosphere. This works when the carb is at part-throttle.
When you are at full throttle the carb has no vacuum to pull the blow-by out of the crankcase. That function is in the following part of the answer...
Your question probably refers to the dual crankcase breather system that Hurst and W-30 cars had. Those breathers do not connect to the carburetor, so they cannot affect intake vacuum or any carb function. If you trace those breathers you will see they connect to the external part of the air cleaner housing.
The purpose of the breather system is to allow air to flow into the crankcase to replace the fumes taken away by the PCV system. Under full throttle, the breather system runs in reverse--all the blow-by goes from the valve cover(s) into the air cleaner housing.
So, why did some cars have dual breathers? It was only high-performance cars that had these, so it must have been something the factory engineers thought was necessary on high-performance cars. I would guess that the looser clearances in those cars produced more blow-by and they wanted an extra exit so crankcase pressure would not build up.
Crankcase pressure causes oil leaks--and the dual breathers would help prevent those.
Last edited by VC455; December 22nd, 2017 at 06:42 AM.
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First the 1969 H/O never ran two PVCs.
1. The early prototype used a PVC in the drivers side valve cover and a breather element on the passenger side valve cover, then via tubes up to the air cleaner. Identical to 1969 442.
2. Production 1969 H/Os had a breather element in both valve covers and tubes up to the air cleaner. The intake manifold had a fitting for PVC, next to the water outlet, where the thermostat housing is connected. A rubber 90 deg elbow connects into this, then the PVC valve, then a small hose to the carburetor base fitting. Similar to 1970 W30 cars
Hence, two PVCs were never used only one.
Why they did this I do not know. If you don't have to worry about smog inspections, two breather elements probably won't hurt a thing. But keep in mind the factory carburetors were calibrated to work with the PVC valve. So you may have to tune a bit... if you do not use one... probably not much of a concern in WOT race conditions...
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First the 1969 H/O never ran two PVCs.
1. The early prototype used a PVC in the drivers side valve cover and a breather element on the passenger side valve cover, then via tubes up to the air cleaner. Identical to 1969 442.
2. Production 1969 H/Os had a breather element in both valve covers and tubes up to the air cleaner. The intake manifold had a fitting for PVC, next to the water outlet, where the thermostat housing is connected. A rubber 90 deg elbow connects into this, then the PVC valve, then a small hose to the carburetor base fitting. Similar to 1970 W30 cars
Hence, two PVCs were never used only one.
Why they did this I do not know. If you don't have to worry about smog inspections, two breather elements probably won't hurt a thing. But keep in mind the factory carburetors were calibrated to work with the PVC valve. So you may have to tune a bit... if you do not use one... probably not much of a concern in WOT race conditions...
1. The early prototype used a PVC in the drivers side valve cover and a breather element on the passenger side valve cover, then via tubes up to the air cleaner. Identical to 1969 442.
2. Production 1969 H/Os had a breather element in both valve covers and tubes up to the air cleaner. The intake manifold had a fitting for PVC, next to the water outlet, where the thermostat housing is connected. A rubber 90 deg elbow connects into this, then the PVC valve, then a small hose to the carburetor base fitting. Similar to 1970 W30 cars
Hence, two PVCs were never used only one.
Why they did this I do not know. If you don't have to worry about smog inspections, two breather elements probably won't hurt a thing. But keep in mind the factory carburetors were calibrated to work with the PVC valve. So you may have to tune a bit... if you do not use one... probably not much of a concern in WOT race conditions...
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Aftermarket PCV
http://www.engineprofessional.com/ar...Q315_34-44.pdf
There was a stock unit that performed quite well and keeping the crankcase under vacuum.
http://www.engineprofessional.com/ar...Q315_34-44.pdf
There was a stock unit that performed quite well and keeping the crankcase under vacuum.
Last edited by Bernhard; December 25th, 2017 at 12:12 PM.
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