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Old July 19th, 2017, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by midnightleadfoot
At that price they should've skipped past the iron and went alum..
It would have been nice, but probably even more money. I also found this in the fine print:

WEIGHT: APPROX 250 LBS (DEPENDING ON BORE)
A bare 455 block is right about 200 lbs.
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
It would have been nice, but probably even more money. I also found this in the fine print:



A bare 455 block is right about 200 lbs.
Why did bug poop out of the fly paper. Is your power to see the difference between a factory block and this aftermarket gone unseen? Did you think pouring fairy dust on a new casting that has thicker main webs as well as solid valley, four bolt main caps= the weight of a weak 455 factory block! Get real because this new after market block is by far the better block.Show me a 455 that can be bored to 4.40. As far as cost by the time you put band aids to keep your 455 in one piece on a all out build or just a very high performance you would be close to this new block cost. You do understand this engine obsoletes the 455 factory engines and the 425. It should outperform a 350 dx also. This is just the race apps. Now for the street how about the direct bolt of cad,bop,chevy gm transmissions and more power than you could ever use. I guess i am totally befuddled at the obvious boo hooing! There had to be a trade off on weight. I am jumping up and down that we have this choice available. I guess i am looking at this from a racers point of view. This also should make a mountain motor for the street.

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Old July 19th, 2017, 12:58 PM
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Why did bug poop out of the fly paper. Is your power to see the difference between a factory block and this aftermarket gone unseen? Did you think pouring fairy dust on a new casting that has thicker main webs as well as solid valley, four bolt main caps= the weight of a weak 455 factory block! Get real because this new after market block is by far the better block.Show me a 455 that can be bored to 4.40. As far as cost by the time you put band aids to keep you 455 in one piece on a all out build or just a very high performance you would be close to this new block cost. You do understand this engine obsoletes the 455 factory engines and the 425. It should outperform a 350 dx also. The is just the race apps. Now for the street how about the direct bolt of cad,bop,chevy gm transmissions and more power than you could ever use. I guess i am totally befuddled at the obvious boo hooing! There had to be a trade off on weight. I am jumping up and down that we have this choice available. I guess i am looking at this from a racers point of view. This also should make a mountain motor for the street.
Off the meds today?

That wasn't a criticism, just a statement of fact. Obviously the thicker webs and deck will add weight, as will reinforcements to make this block survive higher HP levels.
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Anybody have a guess as to the max power this thing should be able to take?
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Old July 19th, 2017, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
It would have been nice, but probably even more money. I also found this in the fine print:



A bare 455 block is right about 200 lbs.
It looked like two complainers getting there heads together. Joe it would only stand to reason the new block was heavier. I thought that would be a given. If we all could get some unobtainingum light weight unheard of metal even light than aluminum and titainum there would be guys not happy.All i am saying was why bring it up if it was a given. Some guys want everything free but they have to wish in one hand and poop in the other.
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Originally Posted by madmax442
Anybody have a guess as to the max power this thing should be able to take?
I would think this engine could in the right hands and this is a guess step into the 7's. I have nothing to back it up but Paul Tester took a nascar 350 block into the eights. Russel Hunt took a 350 nascar block into the 6's in a rail. This is a better block with way more cubes possible! Stands to reason.
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Old July 19th, 2017, 05:05 PM
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I can't figure out for the life of me why anyone would have a complaint about the price or weight of this block. This is exactly what we have been wanting for as long as I can remember. First a solid block and now billet heads, I can't wait to see what comes next. I am completely re thinking my engine platform for the old turd. This stuff isn't cheap but, when you're trying to make Power nothing is. I'm as giddy as a school girl knowing that a durable 1000 hp N/A olds is now a real possibility!
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Old July 19th, 2017, 06:24 PM
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i can't figure out for the life of me why anyone would have a complaint about the price or weight of this block. This is exactly what we have been wanting for as long as i can remember. First a solid block and now billet heads, i can't wait to see what comes next. I am completely re thinking my engine platform for the old turd. This stuff isn't cheap but, when you're trying to make power nothing is. I'm as giddy as a school girl knowing that a durable 1000 hp n/a olds is now a real possibility!
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Old July 20th, 2017, 09:58 AM
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I can't figure out for the life of me why anyone would have a complaint about the price or weight of this block. This is exactly what we have been wanting for as long as I can remember. First a solid block and now billet heads, I can't wait to see what comes next. I am completely re thinking my engine platform for the old turd. This stuff isn't cheap but, when you're trying to make Power nothing is. I'm as giddy as a school girl knowing that a durable 1000 hp N/A olds is now a real possibility!
X3! And 50 lbs isn't nothing. Use aluminum heads and make up for it.
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Old July 20th, 2017, 11:36 AM
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That extra weight will be used for ballast to try and prevent the front end from going over backwards with all that power!!!!!!
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Old July 20th, 2017, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by madmax442
That extra weight will be used for ballast to try and prevent the front end from going over backwards with all that power!!!!!!
Like that! Build one Max, You know you wanna...
Following along from behind. I can do tail lights.
Between you and Mark, all that's needed is $$$. Should I add another $$ for heads?

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Old July 21st, 2017, 02:27 AM
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I am definitely going to build one! I have a DX block and other stuff for sale to start a slush fund but I haven't even had one hit from anyone in here! Must be everyone is getting that new block!
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Old July 21st, 2017, 04:41 PM
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You should list that stuff on ROP instead, there's usually a guy that's always looking for diesel blocks. I think this site would be a tough sale for something like that...too many paint dot and chalk mark guys here.
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Originally Posted by gear head
You should list that stuff on ROP instead, there's usually a guy that's always looking for diesel blocks. I think this site would be a tough sale for something like that...too many paint dot and chalk mark guys here.
X2 and not to many racers here. Sad but true.

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Old July 22nd, 2017, 05:14 AM
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a thought

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X2 and not to many racers. Sad but true.


There are some of us here who race & still appreciate factory correct. Some of us even own both.


I see over on ROP that there is a long discussion on this block. Again thanks to John and Rocket Racing for this exciting new product.
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Old July 24th, 2017, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by tru-blue 442
Like that! Build one Max, You know you wanna...
Following along from behind. I can do tail lights.
Between you and Mark, all that's needed is $$$. Should I add another $$ for heads?
It will be interesting to see what Mark cutlassefi and a customer who buys one of these Rocket Racing blocks come up with for a combo.
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Old July 30th, 2017, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
It would have been nice, but probably even more money. I also found this in the fine print:

A bare 455 block is right about 200 lbs.

and the heavy weight champion


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Old November 17th, 2017, 08:56 PM
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Is this Olds block as good as the new Pontiac block that's been out for awhile. As far a bore and stroke.
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Is this Olds block as good as the new Pontiac block that's been out for awhile. As far a bore and stroke.
Bill at BTR is doing a couple, he says they are very nice. Someone said they are cast at the same place as the Dart blocks. I believe 600 cubic inches is max which makes sense being based off the stock architecture. Plus the Compacted Graphite Iron option should make them even stronger. With a set of the 400+ cfm billet head cores, won't mention the other guys heads, someone will make the most NA Horsepower and Torque ever made with an Olds V8. And yes we should consider this an Olds V8 considering stock parts will bolt in and on. Of course anyone doing that other than to make their W30 look correct is an idiot and wasting the potential of this block.
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Old November 18th, 2017, 11:31 PM
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DAYUM, what a block !!!!! I have been away from cars and racing for many years, this block is exciting. Batten heads were the last great innovation I knew of before kids started coming along and money got tight. I have been learning a LOT from here since I joined, thanks to everyone.
One of sons sent me a text with a picture of some kinda"big block" he just received. Might be time for "ol Dad" to throw something together, to play with my kids.<--HUMOR Maybe I should look for a Vistacruiser body with A/C to drop one of these new blocks into ? It could be a real "sleeper".
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Old November 20th, 2017, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Gerald Nickels
Is this Olds block as good as the new Pontiac block that's been out for awhile. As far a bore and stroke.
Yes, pretty close. The IA II block says 4.400 max bore (same as RR block, which makes sense since they have the same bore spacing) and 4.750 max stroke (5.000 possible with clearancing). The RR block says 4.500 max stroke (BTR says 4.850 would be about max because of cam clearance).
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Old March 23rd, 2018, 06:50 AM
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TTT for more input and who own one of these.
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Old April 15th, 2018, 09:41 PM
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I have one on order. I should be receiving it here shortly.
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Old April 16th, 2018, 05:33 AM
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I have one on order. I should be receiving it here shortly.
Awesome, update as you build.
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Can't wait Chad!
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Old April 18th, 2018, 07:37 AM
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In line for update chadman. 😀
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Old August 2nd, 2018, 07:55 PM
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One of the new RR block's has shown up that BTR worked on 537 ci.😁 Wished it was mine!☺
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Old August 2nd, 2018, 10:25 PM
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I read somewhere that an "unknown person" wanted a 600 incher built.
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Old December 17th, 2018, 02:09 PM
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Have one on order for spring of 2019 !!
Going to be a fun project for the baddest / best handling resto mod cutlass on the road !
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Congratulations on your purchase. How many are they going to have available ?
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Chadman, hows the build going??
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They had a few on the floor, machine time is the issue pending who is doing it.
Can't do any thing here in Chicago for several months any way.
Time to build !
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