Frosted AC parts

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 2nd, 2016, 04:31 AM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
westside807's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 130
Frosted AC parts

My AC blew relatively cool not cold but cool and all of a sudden it started blowing barely cool. Like just a hint of cool air. I looked under the hood and noticed what I've learned is the POA valve and the hose to the compressor white frosted. It keeps happening now every time I use the AC.
I have 71 Cutlass. New/ remanufactured compressor, new dryer, new expansion valve. It uses R-134. I believe the POA valve setup is for R-12. I know nothing about the pressure on it anywhere.
I saw posts on here discussing this issue but missed the fix. Do I get one of the newer valves that says it's more efficient system? Or is there dirt in my system, or do I have a leak? I don't know. These seem to be the options. So what do you think?


This same frosted hose connects to the compressor
westside807 is offline  
Old May 2nd, 2016, 05:15 AM
  #2  
Registered User
 
Rocketowner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 1,393
Did you vacuum the system before replacing the new parts.If not, there's probably moisture in the system and once it reaches the expansion valve it freezes . If you didn't pull a vacuum on it you will have to,and recharge it. I am not sure about the difference in the POA valve ,but 1 drop moisture will cause the freeze up that is happening. Good luck, Larry
Rocketowner is offline  
Old May 2nd, 2016, 05:38 AM
  #3  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
westside807's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 130
Thanks Larry. Yes we put a vacuum on it initially.This system was put together last summer and has been working. Not the coldest air but cool. Now it's somewhat, kind of cool.
westside807 is offline  
Old May 2nd, 2016, 06:56 AM
  #4  
Phantom Phixer
 
Charlie Jones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Apopka, FL
Posts: 4,668
It could be that that old hose has collapsed inside , and is acting like an expansion valve.
A new set of hoses couldn't hurt.
Charlie Jones is offline  
Old May 2nd, 2016, 07:08 AM
  #5  
Registered User
 
72cutlassconv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Yuma, AZ
Posts: 93
My car was doing that. It ended up being the POA valve. Initially I bought one of those "POA update kits" which make the a/c compressor cycle. I didn't care for that set up and sent my original POA valve to Classic Auto Air. They tested it and verified that it was bad, rebuilt it and calibrated it for R-134. That was about 2 years ago.
72cutlassconv is offline  
Old May 3rd, 2016, 12:12 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
banny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: dfw
Posts: 140
did you see this thread? https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...2-cutlass.html
banny is offline  
Old May 4th, 2016, 06:55 AM
  #7  
Registered User
 
oddball's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 1,845
That's not an adjustment problem, looks like an internal failure. Maybe the adjuster screw worked itself loose and got dramatically out of position? That's quite unlikely though. POA has a vacuum reference, and as with anything this old, that kind of stuff can break.

What's happening is the outlet side of the POA is now the primary restriction instead of the expansion valve. It'd be interesting to see what the system pressures are. Be careful, as the system could easily be out-of-wack enough to cause the compressor to fail. A6's are pretty robust thanks to their oil sump, but extended running without refrigerant flow will still kill them.

There are a couple of eBay sellers that recondition POAs and keep some in stock. Just have to correctly identify which port configuration you have. Then it's also your option to recalibrate it (or have them do it) for 134a.
oddball is offline  
Old May 4th, 2016, 10:29 AM
  #8  
Registered User
 
banny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: dfw
Posts: 140
I can test/rebuild/recalibrate them if you are interested.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
$_3 (1).JPG (51.9 KB, 9 views)
File Type: jpg
$_3 (10).JPG (39.2 KB, 8 views)
File Type: jpg
$_3 (11).JPG (60.3 KB, 8 views)
File Type: jpg
$_3 (8).JPG (87.7 KB, 7 views)
banny is offline  
Old May 4th, 2016, 10:56 AM
  #9  
Registered User
 
brown7373's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Fort Pierce, FL
Posts: 1,124
I had the same issue. The POA is frosted but not all the way, meaning it is blocked. It is not letting the refrigerant get through and into the evaporator. I had Classic Auto Air rebuild and recalibrate mine for 134a, and with a parallel condenser, it pumps out 30-35 degree air at the vents.
brown7373 is offline  




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:14 PM.