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61 Starfire - what do i have?

Old March 6th, 2017, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mjmyaire View Post
How are they different? I have a hood molding that I thought was off a 62 and when I hold it up next to my 61 moldings they look the same.

The black rims then on a 61 starfire were gloss black then I would assume.

Under hood black? gloss?

I believe oldsfan I sent you my data plate info. I think I read on your site that some plants used different coding, 3 digits vs 2 on the 1962 cars. Since my 61 starfire has power antenna and A/C I was curious why my ACC area would be blank.


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wanted to see if that A/C car at the salvage yard was still available, the one missing the front end parts.
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I believe it is. My understanding from the Wrecking yard owner is that he doesn't want to sell parts anymore from his carson in the yard but he would rather sell each car car as a whole unit.
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Can you send me his contact info
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'61 Olds contact

His name is Vic, and he has a Company name of Aero-tique and he is about thirty five miles north of Edmonton Alberta. The Phone Number is 708 942-2559. He is usually open 9:00 to 5:00 week days and sometimes Saturday mornings but not always.
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I was thumbing thru " The Cars of Oldsmobile " by Dennis Casteele and saw different width of white walls for the 61 model line-up ranging from 1" to 3". These appeared to be factory photo's. The Ninety-Eight had 3" white walls and the Starfire had 1". Also the F-85 had the thinner white walls. Don't know what determined what got what?
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Originally Posted by Bfg View Post
I was thumbing thru " The Cars of Oldsmobile " by Dennis Casteele and saw different width of white walls for the 61 model line-up ranging from 1" to 3". These appeared to be factory photo's. The Ninety-Eight had 3" white walls and the Starfire had 1". Also the F-85 had the thinner white walls. Don't know what determined what got what?
Since these were factory photos , I would figure that the model of car would determine the whitewall width .
In fact , I seem to remember reading somewhere that the Starfires got "special" 1 " wide whitewalls . While the rest of the full size cars got the "traditional" 3" whitewalls .

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OA & OB transmissions for 61 Oldsmobiles

My understanding is the OB transmission was Starfire only and the OA was used for the other models. I have an OB-61-5529 which is fine and is getting new seals. My other OB turns out is junk and I need to find another for my other 61 Starfire. Does anyone know the differences between OA and the OB? My guess is O is for Oldsmobile since the slim Jim model 10 for Pontiac started with a P. I've found that the model 10 was used for the 61 - 64 model years. I read something a while back and can't find it now that the speedometer gearing was different and maybe some internal differences.
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Originally Posted by mjmyaire View Post
My understanding is the OB transmission was Starfire only and the OA was used for the other models. I have an OB-61-5529 which is fine and is getting new seals. My other OB turns out is junk and I need to find another for my other 61 Starfire. Does anyone know the differences between OA and the OB? My guess is O is for Oldsmobile since the slim Jim model 10 for Pontiac started with a P. I've found that the model 10 was used for the 61 - 64 model years. I read something a while back and can't find it now that the speedometer gearing was different and maybe some internal differences.


The Full Size '63, & '64 Olds Speedometer was operated from the front left wheel and not from the Transmission.
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1961 98 or Starfire grill

Anybody have one or a lead? Also need some rubber parts, grommet for steering column at floor board, wiring harness grommet at fire wall, core support and inner fender mounting rubber. Still looking for original trunk tools.
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Originally Posted by mjmyaire View Post
My understanding is the OB transmission was Starfire only and the OA was used for the other models.
Yes, the OA trans was used with column shift cars . And the OB model was used for floor shift cars . I don't think there was any other differences .
All Oldsmobile model 10's will bolt up to a 61 thru 64 394 engine . As previously mentioned the 63 & 64 's did not have a provision for a speedometer drive .
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1961 Starfire - correct steel wheels?

Trying to determine the correct 14x6 steel wheels for a '61 Starfire. Have it narrowed down to the two pictured.

The black wheel has three nubs, no stamping and the five inner "spokes" next to the lug holes do not have slots. This wheel has been found on 88's and on one of my Starfires.

The rusted wheel on the right is a full set on one of my other '61 Starfires, has no nubs and three of the "spokes" have slots and one spoke has an "NT" stamped in it.

Looking for some confirmation before I spend money on these sandblasting and powder coating..Thanks!
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I was second owner of this CA sold new Lansing built December of '60 84K mile 1961 Starfire

had 5 of the same wheel on it - wheels may or may not have been the same on Starfires built at different assembly plants
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Originally Posted by mjmyaire View Post
Trying to determine the correct 14x6 steel wheels for a '61 Starfire. Have it narrowed down to the two pictured.

The black wheel has three nubs, no stamping and the five inner "spokes" next to the lug holes do not have slots. This wheel has been found on 88's and on one of my Starfires.

The rusted wheel on the right is a full set on one of my other '61 Starfires, has no nubs and three of the "spokes" have slots and one spoke has an "NT" stamped in it.

Looking for some confirmation before I spend money on these sandblasting and powder coating..Thanks!



The Shiny wheel is the correct 1961 Wheel as all Oldsmobiles '61 and '62 needed the lugs formed into the wheel for the poverty style Hub Cap that was often installed. The '61 and '62 Wheel were a solid wheel without slots where '63 and '64 had slots with tin snap-in pieces that filled the vent openings of the wheel.
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Which wheel

Thatís what I originally believed but then started getting conflicting information that these other wheels, the rusted ones, were correct. The fact that my black starfirecsme with a full set of the no nub 3 slots in the center section, wheels made it seem plausible that they were correct. Anyone recognize these rusted wheels with no nubs, stamped NT with three small slots in center section?




QUOTE=chequenman;1059672]The Shiny wheel is the correct 1961 Wheel as all Oldsmobiles '61 and '62 needed the lugs formed into the wheel for the poverty style Hub Cap that was often installed. The '61 and '62 Wheel were a solid wheel without slots where '63 and '64 had slots with tin snap-in pieces that filled the vent openings of the wheel. [/QUOTE]
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The first pic (w/nubs) is what is on my 62 Dynamic 88, and what I believe is correct for your 61 SF.

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I have some wheels that are solid with GM stamped on the nubs and others do not. Also have the valve stem opposite a lug hole and on others not opposite the lug hole. Getting pretty absurdly type A on this but differences I've noticed.
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Frame stamp and markings on '61 Starfire







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The think it should be under vehicle lineup - other vehicles. but everyone will see this post and someone with Starfire knowledge will reply.
Yeah.. "Other Oldsmobiles"..Not even under "Big Oldsmobiles"..They give 442 it's own forum, but won't give the Starfire it's own, even though they are both special performance models of a standard model.. Argument, the Starfire is the same as an 88..Other argument? The 442 is the same as a Cutlass. Other argument..Too much work to move the posts..Solution? I offered to move Starfire related posts..

Welcome to the Starfire club. Fun cars to own. Most people have no idea what they are. We were in a Christmas parade with ours and people loved it. I kept hearing from people along the route "Wow, what kind of car is that?" That was fun!
That said they can be a bit tough to find some trim related parts for. So make sure to join every forum and Facebook page you can. There is a very active Starfire FB page which is where I learned most of what prompted me to choose a 1965. Another cool thing, it's usually the only Starfire at the car show. Twice ours won "people's choice" even though there were much more valuable and nicer condition cars. You have what many consider the holy grail of Starfire of the 60's.
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Welcome to the Starfire club. Fun cars to own. Most people have no idea what they are. We were in a Christmas parade with ours and people loved it. I kept hearing from people along the route "Wow, what kind of car is that?" That was fun!
That said they can be a bit tough to find some trim related parts for. So make sure to join every forum and Facebook page you can. There is a very active Starfire FB page which is where I learned most of what prompted me to choose a 1965. Another cool thing, it's usually the only Starfire at the car show. Twice ours won "people's choice" even though there were much more valuable and nicer condition cars. You have what many consider the holy grail of Starfire of the 60's.
Cheers, John
I've taken my 63 Starfire out to shows and cruise-ins for the last 7 years, in all that time only two people actually knew what it was. I tell everyone they probably won't see another one like it and I think in all that time I've only seen one other 60s Starfire. I second John's recommendation of the Starfire FB page, a lot of good tech info available there.

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Then I want a special forum for us fifties guys. There isn't even a sub section that denotes Supers, post cars and Starfire's, gees I am hurt.... In reality we seem to get along just fine the way it is, it just takes a little education. How many Starfire's compared to fifties era cars are on this forum anyway........ Tedd
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How about a section for 88s that are -not- Starfires?

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The 1" whitewall was used on two 1961 GM cars- the Oldsmobile Starfire and the Chevrolet Impala SS. I think they both used 8.00x14 though the heavier convertible Starfire may have used 8.50x14.

Diamondback Classics in SC can put any whitewall you wish on a tire, as long as you can find a casing in an appropriate size. Modern sizes corresponding to 8.00/8.50x14 will be 215/225-75R14 and those aren't easy to find either.
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