Originally Posted by '69442ragtop

I just saw this thread for the first time and read the whole thing. It was fascinating and the cars are very pretty, but I was very disappointed to see that the posts containing the GM Canada documentation were deleted or have otherwise disappeared.


Any chance we could talk you into posting them again? I'm something of an "automotive archaeology" buff, and I bet lots of other people who didn't catch this thread the first time around would really appreciate it too.

Originally Posted by js442w32

I worked at an Olds dealer and purchase a 69 w32 convertible, hugger orange with white interior......it even came with a partial quart of paint in the trunk.
This car is still around and in storage, but no longer belongs to me. It was redone at one time, but the current condition is unknown.

Originally Posted by js442w32

All I know is this car was not a special order color car, but that it was Orange and the partial quart of paint was labeled Hugger Orange, which I know was a G.M. color used on Camaros.

Originally Posted by alhath

I was recently fortunate to purchase these 2 plus other cars in a estate sale, the previous owner passed away. Just stumbled on this blog and if anyone has any questions on either of this cars , fire away.

Originally Posted by crystal59

I do not disagree with you. All I know is when the W32 arrived without AC or am/fm radio I was annoyed and said this is not the car I ordered. The response was it is a convertible and you do not need AC. I said tell that to the people in Texas during the summer. The end result was factory AC was added without problems or modifications that I am aware of and of course I had to pay for it. This was an established large dealership and I was not ordering from a sales person. I dealt directly with ownership and I
think that they would be aware of the options. It does not matter as I received what I ordered, and perhaps it was an add on but the W32 was an expensive car for it's day and I do not think if someone were prepared to order one but demanded AC because they lived in the desert or something, they would not be accommodated. No one would turn down such a sale. As I said in those days you could get whatever you wanted if you were prepared to pay the price. These were times of fierce competition between the car companies for the muscle car consumer business. I remember the Chrysler dealership trying to sell the cartoon muscles cars for under cost without success. The cost of my W32 was comparable to a Cadillac and there were a lot more potential Cadillac purchasers. The reason that only twenty five W32 convertibles were built is that that is all that was ordered. If more orders came in I have no doubt more W32 convertibles would have been built.

Originally Posted by mister-twister

In one of the pictures, I see a brake booster and disc valve, I'm thinking that was added, brake boosters robbed vacuum, remember the w32 is a 350 horse, stick engine that could not be ordered with power brakes. BTW,a buddy of mine has a 69 convertible cutlass, 3 on the tree.

Originally Posted by alhath

Just finishing a Frame off on her now.

Originally Posted by alhath

will post Pics after car is completed, I can tell you Original Dealer installed AC and all of its original components is in, running and works well. Minor changes made to Charge the system without using R12.

Originally Posted by alhath

the fact is the car came to the Dealership without AC, even though Crystal 59 had a purchase/ sales agreement that the car would have it in from the Factory.The Dealer installed the AC system Prior to Crystal 59 completing on the sale, Does this devalue the Car, you guys can debate that all you want .
The car came from the Factory with Disk Brakes and Auto Transmission, contrary to your Beliefs.The added options that came with this car (33 Documented options) I believe makes this car one of a kind.
Just finishing a Frame off on her now. looking for the original distributor and Power antenna from anyone who may have these parts kicking around. Would like to have an Oldsmobile expert go through the car top to bottom, if anyone knows of one out there I could Contact . Also if anyone has a Documented Unrestored W32 that I could forward some questions to , although we took extensof pictures as we took her apart, some items that through research are supposed to be there weren't, but really not sure if it was supposed to be,,, that to would be great.
The plan is to complete this Car and put it on the Market to a worthy Oldsmobile collector. Barrett Jackson Group found out I had this car Somehow and is all over me to run it on the Block, but would rather the right person gets the car, not the guy with the most money who wont appreciate it. Anybody interested in about a years time could forward me their contact info.

Originally Posted by 1969w3155

Hard to say, as this thread is four years old.

Originally Posted by no1oldsfan

I know it's an old thread but sucks to not have any pictures.

Originally Posted by BangScreech4-4-2

There were pictures of GM VVS docs, but they were so old they disappeared.

Originally Posted by joe_padavano

For those not familiar with the 1969 W-32, here's a little more information. Prior to this option package being released, there were three drivetrains available in the 442 for 1969, all based on the G-block 400, the 325 HP version with the TH400, the 350 HP version with the 3 spd HD or 4 spd manual transmissions, or the W-30 with either the 4 spd manual or special OW code TH400. Of course the W-30 also had O.A.I. The primary difference between the three motors was the cam (yes, and the D heads on the W-30).

I'm guessing that the base TH400 was not considered robust enough to live behind the 350 HP motor, though obviously the OW version of the TH400 could take it. The W-32 motor is simply the manual trans version of the 400 and used the same cam as the MT motors. There is some uncertainty as to whether the W-32 used the OW version of the TH400 or the base version (I've seen documents that show both), though it would seem to make more sense that the OW was used. Unlike the W-30, the milder cam in the W-32 allowed power disk brakes to be offered.

And while A/C WAS offered on the manual trans versions, I too have seen factory documentation that A/C was NOT available with the W-32 package. I attribute this more to the problem with routing the O.A.I. hose around the compressor (look at an underhood photo of a 1968 H/O with air sometime) than with engine vacuum levels. The fact that a dealer claimed to be able to order A/C (and then failed to deliver) is unfortunately not proof that the option was available, only that the dealer thought it was.

Originally Posted by no1oldsfan

'70 SX was considered a W-32 right? Can someone tell me the colors of the cars posted here?