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Old June 19th, 2019, 04:58 AM
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Be sure you DO NOT use those screws that come with the NOS hood molding. The ones that come in the box are to long and will damage the molding.

Wish I was going to the nationals this year but I can't get away.
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Originally Posted by jensenracing77
Be sure you DO NOT use those screws that come with the NOS hood molding. The ones that come in the box are to long and will damage the molding.

Wish I was going to the nationals this year but I can't get away.
No kidding Eric! They are way longer than they should be. Installed it last night after going over it with 0000 steel wool to get off the calicfied packaging adhesive that had migrated onto the part. Ahhh NOS - it fit perfectly.
Sure you cant come down for just a day?

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No kidding Eric! They are way longer than they should be. Installed it last night after going over it with 0000 steel wool to get off the calicfied packaging adhesive that had migrated onto the part. Ahhh NOS - it fit perfectly.
Sure you cant come down for just a day?
Do your hood moulding bolts have tiny little anchors on them similar to the larger core support bolts?
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No kidding Eric! They are way longer than they should be. Installed it last night after going over it with 0000 steel wool to get off the calicfied packaging adhesive that had migrated onto the part. Ahhh NOS - it fit perfectly.
Sure you cant come down for just a day?
I just took a vacation and then another day for Homecoming and have more time off in July for a 3 wheeler MX race I am a crew member on. I can't really take any more time off.
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Could you share where you got the air cleaner foam seal?

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Old July 2nd, 2019, 02:45 AM
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At the Nationals last week. The Asro Blue really popped indoors under the lights - especially at night. It was a lot of fun meeting all the CO regulars who make it every year including our Canadian and Aussie friends.

Now this one is in Senior Preservation. Learned a few more items to be fixed/corrected such as researching the correct plastic cover color on the alternator positive post, replace the front main bumper to bracket bolts with the cap style, and getting a OEM material LH front arm rest pad. The original rear glass has some light wear scratching that showed up under the lighting. I'll be on the lookout for either an excellent used or NOS piece. Thanks to Texas442 (Ali) for the photo
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Old July 2nd, 2019, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by WTHIRTY1
Do your hood moulding bolts have tiny little anchors on them similar to the larger core support bolts?
The mounting screws I have holding them on have no head marking at all. They were the ones on the car when I got it, but I'm not 100% sure they are correct.

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Old July 2nd, 2019, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Del70
Could you share where you got the air cleaner foam seal?

thanks!!
Hello, that is a repo one I painted. The debate goes on about whether the color was ever really yellow or not. We saw a 19000 mile 72 W-30 at the show with the claimed original seal and it was yellow.
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Old July 2nd, 2019, 03:15 AM
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The mounting screws I have holding them on have no head marking at all. They were the ones on the car when I got it, but I'm not 100% sure they are correct.
Also, hope the air cleaner base made it to you OK. Survived this year's ritualistic trainer tire blowout. Patton turned it into Dan - chain of custody lost after that.
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Car looks great, you've done an excellent job with the restoration.
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Old July 2nd, 2019, 05:32 AM
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Also, hope the air cleaner base made it to you OK. Survived this year's ritualistic trainer tire blowout. Patton turned it into Dan - chain of custody lost after that.
The base made it back! Thanks for hauling it! Patton did a great job.

Congrats on the senior preservation award! Job well done.
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Congratulations.

Joe I just love that color. Congratulations on a great showing.
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Originally Posted by costpenn
Survived this year's ritualistic trainer tire blowout.
Are you running the new made-in-USA Goodyear trailer tires? They are the Endurance series... haven't heard anything bad about them yet.

For glass scratches that you can't feel, you can try Ceriglass or other options. I've had mediocre success - a lot has cleared up with the polishing, it's just a lot of work and a huge mess. It's hard (impossible?) to find original glass that doesn't have fine scratches from years of cleaning and debris. You'd likely want to remove the rear window to try, as this is a wet process that flings everywhere.

https://www.autogeek.net/carpro-ceriglass-polish.html or https://www.autogeek.net/lc-pro-glass-kit.html
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Saw you're car at the show and took pictures of it not knowing it was the car in the thread I follow on CO that was hilarious to me, the car looks great by the way you've done a fantastic job with it!
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Do you drive it?
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Originally Posted by 83hurstguy
Are you running the new made-in-USA Goodyear trailer tires? They are the Endurance series... haven't heard anything bad about them yet.

For glass scratches that you can't feel, you can try Ceriglass or other options. I've had mediocre success - a lot has cleared up with the polishing, it's just a lot of work and a huge mess. It's hard (impossible?) to find original glass that doesn't have fine scratches from years of cleaning and debris. You'd likely want to remove the rear window to try, as this is a wet process that flings everywhere.

https://www.autogeek.net/carpro-ceriglass-polish.html or https://www.autogeek.net/lc-pro-glass-kit.html
Hello Luke - missed you at the Nats - maybe MCACN in November?

The tire shop I went to in Wichita could not find a full set of 5 on Saturday, but he did fill me in on the Endurance tires and the reasons for the Marathons being discontinued (what I had on it) Trust me, I will get a set in exactly four years when the Carlisle 10 ply E rated tires I did get will need to be replaced.

Also so thanks for the tips on the back glass. I would remove the frigging thing prior to polishing. I'd still like to find one NOS, but I'm sure it is unobtanium.
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Originally Posted by My442
Do you drive it?
1. Onto the trailer
2. Off the trailer.
3. To some local car shows.
4. Back and forth from my house to my work where I store it

That's aboiut it.
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Congrats Joe,the car looks amazing.
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Old July 4th, 2019, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
Congrats Joe,the car looks amazing.
Thanks Mike. Hope to see you with one of yours at Murfreesboro next year.
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Originally Posted by costpenn
Hello Luke - missed you at the Nats - maybe MCACN in November?

The tire shop I went to in Wichita could not find a full set of 5 on Saturday, but he did fill me in on the Endurance tires and the reasons for the Marathons being discontinued (what I had on it) Trust me, I will get a set in exactly four years when the Carlisle 10 ply E rated tires I did get will need to be replaced.

Also so thanks for the tips on the back glass. I would remove the frigging thing prior to polishing. I'd still like to find one NOS, but I'm sure it is unobtanium.

And we missed you at MCACN last year. Sorry for your loss. We'll be at MCACN as it's a local show for us in the windy city.

be thankful you have tinted glass. good original clear glass is unobtainium, hence why the glass on my 31 looks like it does.

I would have liked to been in Wichita, but a) I didn't plan it well b) the W-31 still isn't done.

I'm going to plan TN next year .... with the W-31 ....

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And we missed you at MCACN last year. Sorry for your loss. We'll be at MCACN as it's a local show for us in the windy city.

be thankful you have tinted glass. good original clear glass is unobtainium, hence why the glass on my 31 looks like it does.

I would have liked to been in Wichita, but a) I didn't plan it well b) the W-31 still isn't done.

I'm going to plan TN next year .... with the W-31 ....
Hello Chris,
We'll be up at MCACN. Look forward to it as per usual. I was going to PM you about air cleaner labels fo 72's - the "little" ones that have the air filter P/N on them - do you make these yet?
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Hi Joe, it was great to catch up at the Nationals and meet you and a number of the CO guys. Your car blew me away and is now the benchmark I'm working toward as I progress its White & Gold brother. I think I took a hundred or so pics to reference and confirm things as I approach the tail end of my resto. Reading this tread over the past few years has been inspirational but seeing the car up close was worth the 20 odd hour flight from Australia alone. I can only hope I can deliver a result that is close to your car.
Congrats and well done. Hope we can catch up again when I get back across the Pacific again. Cheers Rohan
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Hi Joe, it was great to catch up at the Nationals and meet you and a number of the CO guys. Your car blew me away and is now the benchmark I'm working toward as I progress its White & Gold brother. I think I took a hundred or so pics to reference and confirm things as I approach the tail end of my resto. Reading this tread over the past few years has been inspirational but seeing the car up close was worth the 20 odd hour flight from Australia alone. I can only hope I can deliver a result that is close to your car.
Congrats and well done. Hope we can catch up again when I get back across the Pacific again. Cheers Rohan
Rohan, great meeting another genuine enthusiast with a great attitude. Please let me know if there is anything or any question I can help you with. Yours will be amazing X2 considering the logistical challenges you face! Hope to meet again soon.
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Saw the car at the Nationals. Bravo. Awesome car.
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Glad the driveshaft sanding is over. (2 1/2 hours)

Wish I had a giant lathe. There is rust powder everywhere from all the sanding I did on that thing. Went 80' then 220 and finally 400 grit, and used the wire wheel to get into the yokes, end welds, and around the balancing weights. I was hoping to leave it bare and just clear it, but again I am hung up on using the original parts off this car if at all possible and there is just too much pitting to leave as is after sanding. After wiping it down with brake cleaner I hung it up and shot the main tube in a new Rustoleum "Dark Metal" paint which is a primer and topcoat all in one. To me, it looks a little closer to bare unpolished steel tube than the Stainless Paint I was going to use, but this stuff is taking forever to dry. Once ready, I'm going to paint the end welds with the Krylon Chrome paint, the yokes with the Cast Iron paint, and the balancing weights will be wire wheeled nude again and shot with clear. Lastly, I'll install the U joints and then paint the stripes.

Got my dash in from the ebay auction I won. It is just as promised with no rips, tears or warpage. (looks like it has a sag above the gauges in the pic - it doesn't - that is from the way I posed it and it wont happen again!!) The guy had already painted it in the SEM Landau Black and installed a new dash bead. This is one time where something off ebay has exceeded my expectations.

Tomorrow I get busy prepping to paint all the loose stuff I had stripped at QPC.
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Joe,

I noticed the number '846' scribbled on your original gas tank. Did you see that number anywhere else on the car? What about the grease scribble on the back side of the glove box door? I had what I believe was a '32' on the top of my tank and also saw '32' scribbled on the back side of the glove box door.
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Joe,

I noticed the number '846' scribbled on your original gas tank. Did you see that number anywhere else on the car? What about the grease scribble on the back side of the glove box door? I had what I believe was a '32' on the top of my tank and also saw '32' scribbled on the back side of the glove box door.
Jimmy, if I recall correctly, the number on the bottom of the hood by the LH hinge was the same. I didn't find it anywhere else on the car.
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What an amazing restoration and excellent thread telling the story Costpenn! Such and enjoyable read and lots of great reference information.

Did you happen to keep a record of what the original finish is on each part and what paints and processes you used to duplicate the finish on each part? What a wealth of information that would be.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by w30brad
What an amazing restoration and excellent thread telling the story Costpenn! Such and enjoyable read and lots of great reference information.

Did you happen to keep a record of what the original finish is on each part and what paints and processes you used to duplicate the finish on each part? What a wealth of information that would be.

Thanks

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Hello Brad,
i didn't keep a record of it per se over and above what I wrote in the work detail. I think I will spreadsheet it on the next one I do - it might make for a guide as to how much you will need of what in further helping quantify the true resto cost. That is something missng in all my expense accounting.

Thanks for the kind words.

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Sounds good,! It would be such a great reference tool. I hope you create a thread for your next restoration, I really look forward to "going along for the ride".
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Originally Posted by costpenn

At the Nationals last week. The Asro Blue really popped indoors under the lights - especially at night. It was a lot of fun meeting all the CO regulars who make it every year including our Canadian and Aussie friends.

Now this one is in Senior Preservation. Learned a few more items to be fixed/corrected such as researching the correct plastic cover color on the alternator positive post, replace the front main bumper to bracket bolts with the cap style, and getting a OEM material LH front arm rest pad. The original rear glass has some light wear scratching that showed up under the lighting. I'll be on the lookout for either an excellent used or NOS piece. Thanks to Texas442 (Ali) for the photo
Joe, I find myself consistently coming back to your thread as well as Eric's. These really are the two gold standards for 1970 F-85 restorations. I know we've talked about this in the Concours Facebook group, but you should have pushed back on the front bumper bolts above the front license plate area. The short and stubby round carriage bolts aren't correct for a '70. They're shorter bolt, but they're still a hex head with a washer on each side. If an OCA judge tried to present that as a deduction to me, I wouldn't have any of it. In '71 and '72, sure.

So, when is the next Olds restoration project for you?
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