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Old July 22nd, 2018, 02:59 PM
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Electrical/battery question

Here is problem. I can start my car with seemingly no battery problems. I take it for ride, park it for 30-40 minutes or whatever and come back, I turn the key, nothing, will not crank, however if door is open the door buzzer will chime. I put my battery booster on it and it starts, so I think, dead/bad/old battery. I just took battery to advance auto to check it thinking they would say it's dead/ bad. They say it's good but needs charging, so it's charging. I bet however when I pick it up tomorrow and try it same thing will happen. Does this problem sound familiar? Battery? Alternator? Wiring? Some other problem?
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Old July 22nd, 2018, 03:04 PM
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I would check the alternator as well. How old is the battery?
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Old July 22nd, 2018, 03:40 PM
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Clean all your battery connections, both cables and both ends. Clean and check your starter connections, look for frayed wires. Clean and check the stud connections on the horn relay.
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Old July 22nd, 2018, 03:54 PM
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Clean all your battery connections, both cables and both ends. Clean and check your starter connections, look for frayed wires. Clean and check the stud connections on the horn relay.
X2 Clean battery posts and inside of cable that goes around the posts. If it is what I think it is a wire brush will not do a good job of cleaning. Don't go sissy get out the handy pocket knife and scrape the posts and the inside of the cable. I think you will find a hard coating that needs to be removed and the wire brush will only do a partial job. You can wire brush after you scrape. The posts and the cable are made of lead ( some cables are not). The lead is soft so you will know what I mean when you scrape the hard stuff off. I think this is your problem.
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Old July 22nd, 2018, 03:57 PM
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It is older battery, it's marked 9/14, thanks everyone
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Old July 22nd, 2018, 04:58 PM
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Starter heat soak? OldCutlass and I determined the same issue a few weeks ago on my 64 F-85 and fixed it. Key question-how long have to had the car before this developed? If you have had the car for a awhile and this issue all of a sudden started happening X2 the suggestions above.
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You can get these at most auto parts stores, harbor freight, or have Amazon deliver it to your front door. They are very handy and work well.

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Old July 23rd, 2018, 04:48 AM
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this then the wire brush. This will cut the hard stuff off.
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I use 180 or 220 Grit sandpaper for metal. The surfaces will be clean and shiney. A 50 ft. roll will last a lifetime and can be used for a multitude of other things.
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Rather than guessing, how about troubleshooting first? When the car won't start, do the headlights come on at full brightness? If so, the battery and charging system is NOT the problem, so stop paying for unnecessary parts.


When was the last time you rebuilt the starter? This sounds like the common pitted contacts problem in the GM starter solenoid. When hot, resistance goes up to the point that the starter won't engage.
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Old July 23rd, 2018, 07:44 AM
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Nothing better than diagnosing before tossing money.
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Old July 23rd, 2018, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Rather than guessing, how about troubleshooting first? When the car won't start, do the headlights come on at full brightness? If so, the battery and charging system is NOT the problem, so stop paying for unnecessary parts.


When was the last time you rebuilt the starter? This sounds like the common pitted contacts problem in the GM starter solenoid. When hot, resistance goes up to the point that the starter won't engage.

if you throw enough parts parts at it, eventually you will get lucky and fix it!! 😎

a little detective work and thinking the problem thru is always the best approach.
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Old July 23rd, 2018, 10:22 AM
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I will have to check the headlights, I have never rebuilt the starter.
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Headlights???? If it starts when you put on the headlights then it is almost certainly the connection between the cables and the battery. Clean them good.
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Old July 23rd, 2018, 10:51 AM
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Headlights???? If it starts when you put on the headlights then it is almost certainly the connection between the cables and the battery. Clean them good.

No, go back and read my post.



He says it won't start, but the key buzzer works. I said "next time it won't start, see if the headlight come on at normal brightness". Obviously if they do, and the car still doesn't start, the battery and cables are NOT the problem. That's a simply diagnostic technique, rather than buying a new battery and/or alternator, which is what it sounded like he was going to do.
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Oh. I did read it but forgot. Thanks.
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Who, how did you fix it?
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Old April 14th, 2020, 07:43 AM
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That was supposed to say, hello how did you fix it?
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