General Questions Place to post your questions that don't fit into one of the specific forums below.

Questions about dropping the gas tank

Old September 3rd, 2017, 06:24 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
rothlane'68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Central Mass
Posts: 174
Question Questions about dropping the gas tank

I am preparing to drop my gas tank in order to change my fuel sending unit and lines, and looking for advice from folks who have done the same. I am hoping to get my fuel gauge working again (all tests point to the gauge and wiring being good).


Specific things I'm curious about:
Are there any parts you would recommend changing at the same time? (pad above tank? straps? mounting hardware? tank itself?)

Is any portion of the line from the tank to the pump metal? I have only seen rubber so far.

Any products/specific ways you would recommend to clean the tank if i reuse it?

Any value to using a sending unit from a specialty parts dealer? (i.e. fusick, opgi, etc.) Doorman sells one as well for about half the price, and from past experience its probably the same part re-boxed anyway!


Thanks in advance, any info/pointers would be very helpful!
rothlane'68 is offline  
Old September 3rd, 2017, 06:53 PM
  #2  
71 cutlass convertible
 
lshlsh2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Trappe, MD
Posts: 2,015
Dropped the tank on my 71. Empty the tank as much as possible, to make the tank as light as possible. I had to replace the bolts because I had to cut them to get them off. Replace the rubber lines also. It is a good MAW. As for the rest check out the tank when you get it out. I had visions of having to replace all these things but in reality everything was fine.
I dropped mine to replace the rubber fuel lines, that were leaking. I can't help on sending units.
lshlsh2 is online now  
Old September 3rd, 2017, 07:42 PM
  #3  
Registered User
 
tdhill01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Middlesex County, MA
Posts: 1,138
Grab a pad from 70Post, well worth it.

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...on-item-4.html
tdhill01 is offline  
Old September 3rd, 2017, 08:20 PM
  #4  
Proud Viet Nam Veteran
 
redoldsman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Rowlett, TX
Posts: 9,922
I would replace the sock on the fuel pickup which is part of the sending unit. A new sending unit may come with one.
redoldsman is online now  
Old September 4th, 2017, 05:11 AM
  #5  
Administrator
 
oldcutlass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Poteau, Ok
Posts: 40,515
Use plenty of penetrant on the on the threads for the straps before starting. Replace the rubber fuel lines in between the tank and the hard lines mounted to the frame, I use fuel injection hose.
oldcutlass is online now  
Old September 4th, 2017, 06:40 AM
  #6  
Old(s) Fart
 
joe_padavano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 47,255
The entire fuel line that runs along the frame rail is metal. There are only short sections of rubber hose from the tank sender to this hard line and from the hard line to the fuel pump at the engine.

Look for a build sheet on top of the tank when you drop it. Don't be surprised if you don't find one, but you might.

One way I've found to empty the tank is to disconnect the rubber line at the fuel pump and route it into a gas can. Now use a blow gun and air compressor to pressurize the tank from the filler neck. Use a rag to seal the hole. This should blow most of the fuel out of the tank.
joe_padavano is online now  
Old September 4th, 2017, 06:46 AM
  #7  
Registered User
 
TripDeuces's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Rogues Island, USA
Posts: 3,613
One way I've found to empty the tank is to disconnect the rubber line at the fuel pump and route it into a gas can. Now use a blow gun and air compressor to pressurize the tank from the filler neck. Use a rag to seal the hole. This should blow most of the fuel out of the tank.
Love that idea
TripDeuces is offline  
Old September 4th, 2017, 06:48 AM
  #8  
Old(s) Fart
 
joe_padavano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 47,255
Originally Posted by TripDeuces
Love that idea
Laziness is the REAL mother of invention...
joe_padavano is online now  
Old September 4th, 2017, 08:43 AM
  #9  
Registered User
 
ELY442's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 1,936
You didnt say what year your car is but if your car has the "vent valve", that also needs to replaced. There's a small foam filter inside the valve that dissolves because of age. You can replace just the valve or replace the valve with the 2 hoses (it comes with clamps). Fusick, OPGI, Year One (just to name a few) should have it.
ELY442 is offline  
Old September 4th, 2017, 01:47 PM
  #10  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
rothlane'68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Central Mass
Posts: 174
Thanks for all the info, good insight. I'm going to attempt this next weekend, hoping I can get all the way through this one without stopping to order parts!

Originally Posted by tdhill01
Grab a pad from 70Post, well worth it.

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...on-item-4.html
Will do, looks like a good product.

Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Look for a build sheet on top of the tank when you drop it. Don't be surprised if you don't find one, but you might.
Seems like a long shot, but here's hoping!

Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Laziness is the REAL mother of invention...
Definitely going to give this a shot.

Originally Posted by ELY442
You didnt say what year your car is but if your car has the "vent valve", that also needs to replaced. There's a small foam filter inside the valve that dissolves because of age. You can replace just the valve or replace the valve with the 2 hoses (it comes with clamps). Fusick, OPGI, Year One (just to name a few) should have it.
Car is a '68. How/Where does this mount exactly? On the vent tubes on the top, passenger side of the tank? Just 2 hoses and a clamp there now if thats it.
rothlane'68 is offline  
Old September 4th, 2017, 02:11 PM
  #11  
Registered User
 
D. Yaros's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: SE Wisconsin
Posts: 1,915
Did Oldsmobile have a gas tank vent valve in 1968? If it used a vented gas cap I would suspect not.
D. Yaros is offline  
Old September 4th, 2017, 02:11 PM
  #12  
Registered User
 
ELY442's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 1,936
Originally Posted by rothlane'68
Thanks for all the info, good insight. I'm going to attempt this next weekend, hoping I can get all the way through this one without stopping to order parts!



Will do, looks like a good product.



Seems like a long shot, but here's hoping!



Definitely going to give this a shot.



Car is a '68. How/Where does this mount exactly? On the vent tubes on the top, passenger side of the tank? Just 2 hoses and a clamp there now if thats it.
Its mount towards the passenger side front of the tank. There's 2 nipples on the tank where the vent hoses clamps onto.
ELY442 is offline  
Old September 5th, 2017, 08:46 PM
  #13  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
rothlane'68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Central Mass
Posts: 174
Originally Posted by D. Yaros
Did Oldsmobile have a gas tank vent valve in 1968? If it used a vented gas cap I would suspect not.
Went through the CSM and it seems olds did use a vented tank in '68, but with 2 hoses only, no valve, but it seems like an upgrade so I may grab one.

The more I look at my old steel lines, the more I feel like I ought to change them as well as the rubber portions, they already look like they have been patched once by the tank. Has anyone managed to do this with the body on the frame?

I did the front to rear brake line a while back and it was neither fun nor easy but I got it done eventually. It seems like theres even less clearance on the the fuel line side though.
rothlane'68 is offline  
Old September 6th, 2017, 05:32 AM
  #14  
Moderator
 
Olds64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 15,852
Use a kit like this to thoroughly clean and seal the inside of the tank when you drop it:

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/s...56-3/overview/

You can also paint the outside of the tank with a durable paint like POR 15 or Rustoleum.
Olds64 is online now  
Old September 6th, 2017, 06:49 AM
  #15  
Registered User
 
ELY442's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 1,936
I use this to coat the inside on both of my Cutlasses gas tanks.
http://www.eastwood.com/gas-tank-sea...nk-sealer.html

And use this paint my gas tanks
http://www.eastwood.com/ew-tank-tone...sol-13-oz.html
ELY442 is offline  
Old September 6th, 2017, 08:59 AM
  #16  
Moderator
 
Olds64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 15,852
The products Ely linked are a great option too. All of the fuel tank restoration kits are pretty much the same so get whichever is cheapest. Also, make sure you wear a respirator. NOT A DUST MASK! This stuff is poison so make sure you wear proper PPE.

Amazon Amazon
Olds64 is online now  
Old September 6th, 2017, 05:17 PM
  #17  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
rothlane'68's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Central Mass
Posts: 174
Originally Posted by Olds64
The products Ely linked are a great option too. All of the fuel tank restoration kits are pretty much the same so get whichever is cheapest. Also, make sure you wear a respirator. NOT A DUST MASK! This stuff is poison so make sure you wear proper PPE.

https://www.amazon.com/3M-07193-Cart...rds=respirator
Thanks for the heads up!

So what did you do with the toxic mess once you used it?
rothlane'68 is offline  
Old September 7th, 2017, 05:31 AM
  #18  
Moderator
 
Olds64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 15,852
I was able to dispose of the toxic mess at a community "clean up day." The bad part is that it had to sit in my garage for months to wait for the "clean up day."

You can also ask your community if they have a recycling center where you can get rid of it.
Olds64 is online now  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
tgilligan
Small Blocks
17
February 13th, 2018 03:35 AM
Ivan Shelkovich
Cutlass
8
February 8th, 2017 10:22 AM
pbob42
Eighty-Eight
12
April 6th, 2013 01:07 PM
Texas442
General Discussion
2
January 30th, 2012 05:36 PM
Joffroi
Cutlass
11
March 21st, 2011 05:15 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Questions about dropping the gas tank



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:45 AM.