how did classic Oldsmobile get started and who started it?
September 22nd, 2009, 07:07 AM
#6
Past Administrator
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Rural Waxahachie Texas
Posts: 10,010
Can't remember when, but maybe three years ago I was asked by the owner of the site to administrate it on their behalf. They are kind of like absentee landlords. I think they may own other car related sites and we rarely ever see them now since we have such an active administrator/moderator workforce. I thin Paul talks to them more often now than I have recently. Such as a few recent changes to the site servers/engines/software etc.
September 29th, 2009, 07:25 AM
#7
Site Admin & Motorhead
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Northern Colorado
Posts: 670
Some more info here...
Cars2007 wasn't the original Admin. I recognize that as being an InternetBrands forum ID, so it came in when they purchased the site in 2006-07.
Doing a little research in Admin Contol Panel, I found the following oldest members:
Edsdelta December 12th, 2001
70ragtop December 15th, 2001
AM6_Cutlass December 18th, 2001
Craig Van Buren December 18th, 2001
THE KNEEBITER December 18th, 2001
bacon December 21st, 2001
Wayne December 23rd, 2001
None of them have been on for a looooooong time, except "Craig Van Buren" who was on once this year. I'll have to PM him and see if he remembers who was admining back when he joined and/or where the site came from.
Of the above list, only "70ragtop" lists an email that indicated he might have been an admin, altho his posts don't look admin-like. Nor do any of the posts from the others.
I suspect that the original admins have deleted their user IDs, or something corrupted the database and the oldest stuff is just gone now. I'll keep hunting around though and see what I can reconstruct.
I thought I had heard or read once that this site was migrated from another one. Have to see if I can find that again.
Stay tuned!
Cars2007 wasn't the original Admin. I recognize that as being an InternetBrands forum ID, so it came in when they purchased the site in 2006-07.
Doing a little research in Admin Contol Panel, I found the following oldest members:
Edsdelta December 12th, 2001
70ragtop December 15th, 2001
AM6_Cutlass December 18th, 2001
Craig Van Buren December 18th, 2001
THE KNEEBITER December 18th, 2001
bacon December 21st, 2001
Wayne December 23rd, 2001
None of them have been on for a looooooong time, except "Craig Van Buren" who was on once this year. I'll have to PM him and see if he remembers who was admining back when he joined and/or where the site came from.
Of the above list, only "70ragtop" lists an email that indicated he might have been an admin, altho his posts don't look admin-like. Nor do any of the posts from the others.
I suspect that the original admins have deleted their user IDs, or something corrupted the database and the oldest stuff is just gone now. I'll keep hunting around though and see what I can reconstruct.
I thought I had heard or read once that this site was migrated from another one. Have to see if I can find that again.
Stay tuned!
September 29th, 2009, 08:59 AM
#8
Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 15,890
Interesting stuff Paul. BTW, where is our website's database? Is it on some long lost admin's server or is it all stored on a server by vBulletin (the software used for posting)? I am pretty ignorant when it comes to computer stuff. 
September 29th, 2009, 09:31 AM
#10
Site Admin & Motorhead
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Northern Colorado
Posts: 670
Well there are 2 components here for the site: the front end "web application" that's vBB (also known as vBulletin, which I think was originally titled Virtual Bulletin Board. In the old days leading up to the internet, forums started out on software called "Bulletin boards" that you had to dial into individually. Yes, I was doing this even back then 
).
Underlying vBB, all the posts, user records, pictures, etc etc - everything that makes up the site - is stored in a backend database (db). Depending on the size and volume of the site, the db could reside on it's own server, or it could share with the one that hosts the site and runs the vBB. A site like this might run on 1 or 2 webservers, which are interconnected and typically load balance during times of high traffic. A truly large site, like RX7Club.com (another site I admin) with 150,000 users probably runs on a cluster of 3 to 10 web/vBB servers and at least one or more BIG database servers. As far as I can tell, all the servers are hosted out of California where Internet Brands has their business offices.
Back in 2006 or so Internet Brands decided it would be a good business to start purchasing Internet forums of all kinds, including Automotive forums like this one. Smart move in my opinion, as we all know how addictive forums can be, plus if you're interested in pretty much ANYthing these days, you can be sure there's at least 1 forum out there about it with people who share your interest. These forums are one of the great things about the internet, IMHO. So Internet Brands first bought the company that produces the vBulletin software (the market leader) so they could totally customize and interconnect their sites, then they started purchasing forums that had been previously independant. I was very close with one of the big multi-site owners, so I watched that happen first hand. I just checked their website ( http://www.internetbrands.com/ib ) and it looks like they have around 100 internet forum sites in a dozen or so different topic areas.
Anyhow, probably more info than you wanted. Hope it helps.
). Underlying vBB, all the posts, user records, pictures, etc etc - everything that makes up the site - is stored in a backend database (db). Depending on the size and volume of the site, the db could reside on it's own server, or it could share with the one that hosts the site and runs the vBB. A site like this might run on 1 or 2 webservers, which are interconnected and typically load balance during times of high traffic. A truly large site, like RX7Club.com (another site I admin) with 150,000 users probably runs on a cluster of 3 to 10 web/vBB servers and at least one or more BIG database servers. As far as I can tell, all the servers are hosted out of California where Internet Brands has their business offices.
Back in 2006 or so Internet Brands decided it would be a good business to start purchasing Internet forums of all kinds, including Automotive forums like this one. Smart move in my opinion, as we all know how addictive forums can be, plus if you're interested in pretty much ANYthing these days, you can be sure there's at least 1 forum out there about it with people who share your interest. These forums are one of the great things about the internet, IMHO.
So Internet Brands first bought the company that produces the vBulletin software (the market leader) so they could totally customize and interconnect their sites, then they started purchasing forums that had been previously independant. I was very close with one of the big multi-site owners, so I watched that happen first hand. I just checked their website ( http://www.internetbrands.com/ib ) and it looks like they have around 100 internet forum sites in a dozen or so different topic areas. Anyhow, probably more info than you wanted.
Hope it helps.
September 29th, 2009, 11:35 AM
#11
Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 15,890
Thanks for the info Paul. Let us know if you dig up any information on the origins of our website. I'm surprised Joe P. or Norm don't know how it started. Don't they have alot of Oldsmobile connections outside of our website?
September 30th, 2009, 09:48 AM
#12
67 heavy metal
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 527
Well there are 2 components here for the site: the front end "web application" that's vBB (also known as vBulletin, which I think was originally titled Virtual Bulletin Board. In the old days leading up to the internet, forums started out on software called "Bulletin boards" that you had to dial into individually. Yes, I was doing this even back then ).
Underlying vBB, all the posts, user records, pictures, etc etc - everything that makes up the site - is stored in a backend database (db). Depending on the size and volume of the site, the db could reside on it's own server, or it could share with the one that hosts the site and runs the vBB. A site like this might run on 1 or 2 webservers, which are interconnected and typically load balance during times of high traffic. A truly large site, like RX7Club.com (another site I admin) with 150,000 users probably runs on a cluster of 3 to 10 web/vBB servers and at least one or more BIG database servers. As far as I can tell, all the servers are hosted out of California where Internet Brands has their business offices.
Back in 2006 or so Internet Brands decided it would be a good business to start purchasing Internet forums of all kinds, including Automotive forums like this one. Smart move in my opinion, as we all know how addictive forums can be, plus if you're interested in pretty much ANYthing these days, you can be sure there's at least 1 forum out there about it with people who share your interest. These forums are one of the great things about the internet, IMHO. So Internet Brands first bought the company that produces the vBulletin software (the market leader) so they could totally customize and interconnect their sites, then they started purchasing forums that had been previously independant. I was very close with one of the big multi-site owners, so I watched that happen first hand. I just checked their website ( http://www.internetbrands.com/ib ) and it looks like they have around 100 internet forum sites in a dozen or so different topic areas.
Anyhow, probably more info than you wanted. Hope it helps.
). Underlying vBB, all the posts, user records, pictures, etc etc - everything that makes up the site - is stored in a backend database (db). Depending on the size and volume of the site, the db could reside on it's own server, or it could share with the one that hosts the site and runs the vBB. A site like this might run on 1 or 2 webservers, which are interconnected and typically load balance during times of high traffic. A truly large site, like RX7Club.com (another site I admin) with 150,000 users probably runs on a cluster of 3 to 10 web/vBB servers and at least one or more BIG database servers. As far as I can tell, all the servers are hosted out of California where Internet Brands has their business offices.
Back in 2006 or so Internet Brands decided it would be a good business to start purchasing Internet forums of all kinds, including Automotive forums like this one. Smart move in my opinion, as we all know how addictive forums can be, plus if you're interested in pretty much ANYthing these days, you can be sure there's at least 1 forum out there about it with people who share your interest. These forums are one of the great things about the internet, IMHO.
So Internet Brands first bought the company that produces the vBulletin software (the market leader) so they could totally customize and interconnect their sites, then they started purchasing forums that had been previously independant. I was very close with one of the big multi-site owners, so I watched that happen first hand. I just checked their website ( http://www.internetbrands.com/ib ) and it looks like they have around 100 internet forum sites in a dozen or so different topic areas. Anyhow, probably more info than you wanted.
Hope it helps.
September 30th, 2009, 10:30 AM
#14
Registered
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Northeast Ohio
Posts: 4,430
If you go to the bottom of the page and click on "advertising" it will take you to the Internet Brands advertising homepage and all the sites they run/own are listed there.
There are 95 sites. I didn't count them, it says it on the right.
There are 95 sites. I didn't count them, it says it on the right.
September 30th, 2009, 10:31 AM
#15
67 heavy metal
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 527
September 30th, 2009, 10:34 AM
#16
67 heavy metal
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 527
September 30th, 2009, 11:23 AM
#18
The Charter Member
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Maine, USA
Posts: 50
Got the ball rolling for classicoldsmobile.com
Glad to see everything is still holding strong! I captured the domain after it had expired in 2001. This was a few years before GM decided to ax Oldsmobile. I owned a 1966 Delta 88, which brought me online to look for parts and other enthusiasts. I wanted to make a community and provide a basic knowledge base for others like myself to refer to whenever they had an issue or was looking for advice for their project. I decided to sell the website in December 2005 after my personal time diminished-- passing the torch to the next person worthy of bringing it to the next level (and it did!).
You guys should check out how the site evolved over the years:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/https:/...oldsmobile.com
This is what I had settled on for the standard design:
http://web.archive.org/web/200505240...ldsmobile.com/
You guys should check out how the site evolved over the years:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/https:/...oldsmobile.com
This is what I had settled on for the standard design:
http://web.archive.org/web/200505240...ldsmobile.com/
September 30th, 2009, 11:34 AM
#19
67 heavy metal
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 527
hoo wee now hats some history.I tried to see the oldest but some of them I guess no longer exist.I tell you all I am proud and happy to have joined and be a part of this site and forum.I have gotten alot out of it.
September 30th, 2009, 03:30 PM
#22
Registered
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Northeast Ohio
Posts: 4,430
Wow! I commend you Edsdelta, thanks for all.
It's like looking back in time to the big bang, the graphics and layout were much cooler.
Changed the logo on top now, a few to choose from and constantly changing.
Thank you for taking the time to read this... I am not worthy!
It's like looking back in time to the big bang, the graphics and layout were much cooler.
Changed the logo on top now, a few to choose from and constantly changing.
Thank you for taking the time to read this... I am not worthy!
September 30th, 2009, 03:59 PM
#23
olds..older..oldest
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 364
...in the beginning...
Really enjoying this thread,maybe cause I'm a history buff and my dad's a history professor.All I know is that it takes a heck of a lot of committment and energy to create and maintain ANYTHING as excellent as this site,and I'm eternally grateful that someone started it,and our present administrator and moderators keep it going!Kudo's to you all,with thanks! Derek
September 30th, 2009, 04:10 PM
#24
Past Administrator
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Rural Waxahachie Texas
Posts: 10,010
Ed,
Thanks so much for starter CO. I looked at about 20 or 30 of those pages and was reminded of the way it looked back in 2005 and had forgotten it completely, I do remember the layout in 2006 though. One page I looked at had an article about the transmission and how it was designed for use in tanks. Pretty cool. Is there any way to retrieve some of that for use now? If it is at all possible perhaps you could let Paul have access to some of it.
Thanks again.
Thanks so much for starter CO. I looked at about 20 or 30 of those pages and was reminded of the way it looked back in 2005 and had forgotten it completely, I do remember the layout in 2006 though. One page I looked at had an article about the transmission and how it was designed for use in tanks. Pretty cool. Is there any way to retrieve some of that for use now? If it is at all possible perhaps you could let Paul have access to some of it.
Thanks again.
September 30th, 2009, 04:31 PM
#25
67 heavy metal
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 527
Ed,
Thanks so much for starter CO. I looked at about 20 or 30 of those pages and was reminded of the way it looked back in 2005 and had forgotten it completely, I do remember the layout in 2006 though. One page I looked at had an article about the transmission and how it was designed for use in tanks. Pretty cool. Is there any way to retrieve some of that for use now? If it is at all possible perhaps you could let Paul have access to some of it.
Thanks again.
Thanks so much for starter CO. I looked at about 20 or 30 of those pages and was reminded of the way it looked back in 2005 and had forgotten it completely, I do remember the layout in 2006 though. One page I looked at had an article about the transmission and how it was designed for use in tanks. Pretty cool. Is there any way to retrieve some of that for use now? If it is at all possible perhaps you could let Paul have access to some of it.
Thanks again.
ehh at least that is one option lol.
September 30th, 2009, 04:55 PM
#26
The Charter Member
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Maine, USA
Posts: 50
You're welcome!
At one time I had approached a few Publishers like Chilton and Haynes to get copyrights to "digitize" some of the older chassis manuals. My ultimate goal was to scan any pre-1975 manual I could get my hands on, and put up an online database (kind of like a massive Olds resource database). I must have got a hold of some old-school librarian... and she denied my request unconditionally.
October 1st, 2009, 05:46 AM
#28
Captain of my ship
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Annapolis Valley , Nova Scotia
Posts: 1,880
I suppose I'm a bit overwhelmed-- I feel like a Hollywood star or something! I'm happy to have made the right choice. You know, I have some backups kicking around and I'll be more than happy to let them loose (consider it open-source).
At one time I had approached a few Publishers like Chilton and Haynes to get copyrights to "digitize" some of the older chassis manuals. My ultimate goal was to scan any pre-1975 manual I could get my hands on, and put up an online database (kind of like a massive Olds resource database). I must have got a hold of some old-school librarian... and she denied my request unconditionally.
At one time I had approached a few Publishers like Chilton and Haynes to get copyrights to "digitize" some of the older chassis manuals. My ultimate goal was to scan any pre-1975 manual I could get my hands on, and put up an online database (kind of like a massive Olds resource database). I must have got a hold of some old-school librarian... and she denied my request unconditionally.
so do you live close to Stephen king?
October 1st, 2009, 06:58 AM
#30
Banned
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: columbus ohio
Posts: 1,132
At one time I had approached a few Publishers like Chilton and Haynes to get copyrights to "digitize" some of the older chassis manuals. My ultimate goal was to scan any pre-1975 manual I could get my hands on, and put up an online database (kind of like a massive Olds resource database). I must have got a hold of some old-school librarian... and she denied my request unconditionally.
October 1st, 2009, 07:55 AM
#31
Cutlass Lover
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Twinsburg, Ohio
Posts: 6,587
My thanks also to all who keep the site going and running smoothly! I enjoy reading the forums (even if I don't always understand what I'm reading)!! I have learned a lot, and everyone is so helpful, which is greatly appreciated! I don't have people around me that I can ask questions to about my car, and all of you are so knowledgable and helpful and NICE !!!!
I never thought I'd have a 72 Cutlass again, and I'm so glad I found this site and you guys, to help me!! It's a lot of fun too! So thank you all very much!
!!!! I never thought I'd have a 72 Cutlass again, and I'm so glad I found this site and you guys, to help me!! It's a lot of fun too! So thank you all very much!
December 11th, 2015, 04:55 PM
#32
Hookers under Hood
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 3,543
Stumbled across this old thread today, Thought I'd kick it up TTT for anyone interested . Kinda cool to hear how it all came to be from beginning. Thanks to all in the beginning and to all that keep it going and monitored today.
July 24th, 2018, 05:13 PM
#36
Registered User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Brazil Indiana
Posts: 11,503
This don't hurt to come to the top again. With Facebook getting so much attention in the Olds community I fear we are going to start going backwards again with false and bad information. People really should keep the detailed questions and information here and not on Facebook.
July 24th, 2018, 05:25 PM
#37
Olds Fever
Join Date: May 2011
Location: New York (Upstate)
Posts: 4,442
This don't hurt to come to the top again. With Facebook getting so much attention in the Olds community I fear we are going to start going backwards again with false and bad information. People really should keep the detailed questions and information here and not on Facebook.
Totally agree... One stop shopping here at CO... The Facebook sites are too scattered IMO...
July 24th, 2018, 05:49 PM
#38
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 2,659
This don't hurt to come to the top again. With Facebook getting so much attention in the Olds community I fear we are going to start going backwards again with false and bad information. People really should keep the detailed questions and information here and not on Facebook.
July 24th, 2018, 06:25 PM
#40
Hookers under Hood
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 3,543
Put-er-ther !
Eric
