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Old April 20th, 2019, 07:15 PM
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Time for a new car for the wife.

My wife's car is nearing the end of it's life. It has been very good. It is a 2006 hyundai sonata, with a 5 speed manual. My wife loves manual trans, but good luck finding a mid sized sedan with one now. Car has 215,000 miles, the suspension, steering and tires are shot and the clutch is starting to slip. Oh well. Not sure what we will do, going to take our time, Probably look for something 2 or 3 years old with not many miles. Maybe find that rare Accord with a manual trans but not holding my breath. From what I have read it is the only mid sized sedan with a manual trans.
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I hear ya about the manual transmission. Back in 2006 the wife bought a Volvo wagon and had to special order manual trans (V70R, 300 hp turbo, 6 speed Getrag, All Wheel Drive, active suspension, Brembo discs all around). Turns out there were a total of 377 manual trans wagons imported into all of North America that year, and they are much sought after by enthusiasts these days. I have been driving it for the past many years and I don't have a clue what I would replace it with if I needed to get another daily driver. Good luck in your search.
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Toyota ceased the manual Camry in 2010 or so due to low sales. I remember I was working in bodyweld for a few weeks during training, and the monitor would flash "M" in huge letters when the system wanted a manual firewall. This was like 3 times a shift, that's it.

The only manual Toyotas are some Tacomas (mine is one) and some of the Scions. I'd look at Subarus and certain Cadillacs for manual trans.
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"Certain Cadillacs" such as the CTS-V? I saw a beautiful blue CTS-V wagon at the grocery store a few months ago. Didn't even know those existed. Wish I could find its twin for sale.
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Originally Posted by lshlsh2
My wife's car is nearing the end of it's life. It has been very good. It is a 2006 hyundai sonata, with a 5 speed manual. My wife loves manual trans, but good luck finding a mid sized sedan with one now. Car has 215,000 miles, the suspension, steering and tires are shot and the clutch is starting to slip. Oh well. Not sure what we will do, going to take our time, Probably look for something 2 or 3 years old with not many miles. Maybe find that rare Accord with a manual trans but not holding my breath. From what I have read it is the only mid sized sedan with a manual trans.
The new Toyota Corolla Hatch can be had with a stick I believe.
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Old April 21st, 2019, 03:34 PM
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Maybe a Ford Mustang ?
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Old April 21st, 2019, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Fun71
"Certain Cadillacs" such as the CTS-V? I saw a beautiful blue CTS-V wagon at the grocery store a few months ago. Didn't even know those existed. Wish I could find its twin for sale.
Oh, they're out there for sale, they're badass, and they're available with a stick.
Vagons are pretty rare.
Stick cars are even rarer.
Only made for 3-4 years 2011-14 and are still $45K+ for a decent used one.
$65K+ for really nice low mile stick.car.
Here you go !
https://www.texashotrides.com/2014-c...-75006/6609157

OP, look into a Mazda 6. Still have sticks thru 2018 (gone in 2019)
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Old April 21st, 2019, 05:03 PM
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I will check out the corolla, mustang is a no go because it needs to fit a car seat for our granddaughter. Subaru might be a possibility if I can find one with lower miles that they don't want a fortune for. Just starting to look right now.
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Subaru might be a possibility ...
No.
Not unless it's a pristine 20+ year old one with a stick.
Subaru from about 2010 up is not the Subaru of yore with simple reliable well engineered cars.
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Old April 21st, 2019, 06:28 PM
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Thanks for the article, some possibilities there
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I'm in the same boat. I have a '10 Ford Fusion with a 6spd stick. It's coming up on 200k & mechanically it's fine(one of the nicest driving cars I've ever owned)but the Ohio rustbelt cancer is catching up with it. The rockers have rusted & the "dog-legs on the quarters are starting to pop. 2015 was the last year for a stick in the Fusion & that was a special order. I'm thinking of getting a new Ranger but no sticks are available in those There are rumors that the new Bronco will be available with a stick next year. Hell you can't even get an F150 with a stick anymore!!! I work at the huge Ford truck plant in Avon-lake Ohio. We make E350s all the way up to F750s. No sticks in any of them,all autos!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Indy_68_S
Oh, they're out there for sale, they're badass, and they're available with a stick.
Vagons are pretty rare.
Stick cars are even rarer.
Only made for 3-4 years 2011-14 and are still $45K+ for a decent used one.
$65K+ for really nice low mile stick.car.
Here you go !
https://www.texashotrides.com/2014-c...-75006/6609157

OP, look into a Mazda 6. Still have sticks thru 2018 (gone in 2019)
OMG, an Opulent Blue Metallic M6 Vagon is my muse. Back in '13 when we were shopping for a new car for the wife, I tried SO HARD to talk her into a M6 Vagon, and a small handful of OBM M6 Vagons were on the market then (new). I was ultimately unsuccessful and she settled for a Xenon-Blue Metallic '13 SRX (XBM on an SRX is the same color as OBM on a CTS, we really like that color since it is so rare to see on a Caddy). At $72K, the asking on that OBM M6 Vagon is higher than it originally stickered for when it was new. I haven't stopped kicking myself for passing up an opportunity to grab one when they were new. I think the fact that GM didn't keep a wagon in the CTS lineup when it was redesigned in '16 is what is driving up the value on Vagons. I've seen two in town, a red one and a white one. I also spotted a OBM CTS wagon too (3.6L), but not the same as a V. I'd give my left one and 1/2 of my right one to get an OBM M6 Vagon as a twin to our SRX.
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Old April 22nd, 2019, 04:19 AM
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Larry, you might consider a Kia Soul. They are available with a manual transmission and have a decent amount of room. My wife has one with an automatic and it has plenty of room for two kids in the backseat with a full car seat and booster seat. My friend also has an older one with a manual. Actually, I was considering getting one with a manual to commute back and forth to work (68 miles round trip). The only problem is that the 2020 Kia Souls are priced out of this world with the large Inline4. Why spend $24k on a fully loaded Kia Soul when you can get a CUV like the Kia Sorento with a v6 for the same price?
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The Kia Soul is uglier than Maxine Waters.
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Larry, you might consider a Kia Soul. They are available with a manual transmission and have a decent amount of room.
My friend had one & enjoyed it for the $$
I had one as a rental with the base engine. It was fine up to 60 mph but any faster & it sounded like a coffee can full of pennies.
IDK if the bigger engine is available with a manual.

Someone I know has a Jetta with a manual, but the car has had a ton of problems.
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Old April 22nd, 2019, 04:34 PM
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Wife doesn't like the soul. She is away with her mom for a couple of days. Maybe look at some cars this weekend, we both have Sat. off.
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The Kia Soul is uglier than Maxine Waters.
You do realize that Toyota's, though reliable as hell, have some of the ugliest designs in the world?
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Consider a Subaru Impreza. Nice fun sedans with manual transmissions. The Subaru brand has a good following and pretty reliable drivetrains.
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Originally Posted by sjay1989
Consider a Subaru Impreza. Nice fun sedans with manual transmissions. The Subaru brand has a good following and pretty reliable drivetrains.
An earlier post disagrees:

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Subaru from about 2010 up is not the Subaru of yore with simple reliable well engineered cars.
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Old April 27th, 2019, 07:01 PM
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Cousins have a Subaru and really like it. Test drove a 17 elantra with a 6 speed. Drove really nice but was not what we wanted. We really like the size of the sonata. May look at one on Monday. Only problem with Subaru is I don't like the local dealer and another is to far away.
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Consider a Subaru Impreza. Nice fun sedans with manual transmissions. The Subaru brand has a good following and pretty reliable drivetrains.
I agree. They have a very loyal following. I have co workers who really like them.
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Old June 26th, 2019, 04:07 PM
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Well I think we are going to get a Hyundai Veloster Turbo. Going to look for one 2 to 3 years old and less than 50,000 miles. Seem to be a fair amount with 6 speed manuals. Going to try to avoid white and black for exterior colors. Used but not abused is the trick.
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Originally Posted by lshlsh2
Well I think we are going to get a Hyundai Veloster Turbo. Going to look for one 2 to 3 years old and less than 50,000 miles. Seem to be a fair amount with 6 speed manuals. Going to try to avoid white and black for exterior colors. Used but not abused is the trick.
Neat little hot hatchback.
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Originally Posted by lshlsh2
Well I think we are going to get a Hyundai Veloster Turbo. Going to look for one 2 to 3 years old and less than 50,000 miles. Seem to be a fair amount with 6 speed manuals. Going to try to avoid white and black for exterior colors. Used but not abused is the trick.
Depending on how she drives, take a look at the Hyundai Accent. I have one as my commuter car for work. Reliable, great MPG, room in the back for car seats, can't beat the warranty, and best of all CHEAP. Basic reliable transportation. Not many frills, but enough. I bought mine new off the lot in 2016 for $12,500.00 out the door. If you like to haggle (like I do) check them out.

By the way, they are available with a manual transmission.
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Depending on how she drives, take a look at the Hyundai Accent.
If you consider the Hyundai Accent don't disregard the Kia Rio. They are the same car. My wife and I bought the Kia Sorento over the Hyundai Sante Fe because it was cheaper. I don't think Kia has a counterpart to the Hyundai Veloster but the Rio and the Forte are both hatchbacks.
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The Jeep Compass used to be available stick I believe, its a semi SUV but attractive.
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Commute is a non issue for us. Less than 25 miles round trip about 15 minutes one way unless we get behind farm equipment. Kids are gone want something a little sporty.
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Get a '12-'13 Infiniti G37x sport w/stick. the 3.7L will make u smile. best value in its class and you will be fighting her for the car once you drive it. plenty of room for grandkids in back.
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3 cars ago, I had a '14 Accord Sport 6 speed DD. That was a pretty "fun" car that got great MPG and was comfortable for 4 with good storage. Not sure if the new ones still have a manual option or not.
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Genesis G70 is available with a standard. The resale on these are very reasonable and they are a good reliable car.
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Well after looking around for several months, looking at a lot of cars that were not it for different reasons. Found a 2016 Mazda 3 with a 6speed manual and sunroof also certified. Wife likes it so good to go. Will get some pics up soon. Traded in the Sonata at 221,000 miles.
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Excellent. Look forward to seeing pics.
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Here we go.


the rare manual trans. Maybe last one.
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I bet it gets excellent gas mileage!
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The Kia Soul is uglier than Maxine Waters.


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Originally Posted by Koda
The Kia Soul is uglier than Maxine Waters.
Maybe you're thinking of KellyAnne Conway ?
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Took on a quick trip to the outer banks. Drove nice seems to get great gas mileage. Maybe around 40mpg. Wife still likes.
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Got 42mpg on our trip to the outer banks and back.
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Nice little car, honestly most of the cars look decent still, the CUV's are a different story. That mileage is awesome as well, enjoy.
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