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Old July 11th, 2018, 09:57 AM
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A phrase I never thought I'd see...

"...numbers matching 260..."

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...l#&gid=1&pid=1
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Old July 11th, 2018, 10:25 AM
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That body style makes me angry.
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Seller is on crack for that price for a "buttless Cutlass."
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That is one ugly Olds!
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Not my fathers Oldsmobile for sure! He would not have ever wanted that thing.
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Old July 11th, 2018, 11:47 AM
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Seller is on crack for that price for a "buttless Cutlass."
The prices of that particular seller routinely seem to be "on another planet"!
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The Gutless, Buttless, Cutlass. If this goes for that, then Herbie has hope...
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Put a clueless seller with overhead of the broker and this is what happens.... I had forgotten about this version, can I please unsee it?
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The fact that they want $17,500 also is bewildering. Ah, what?
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Old July 11th, 2018, 01:41 PM
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hey now i had a 442 like that.they kinda look like a pinto on steroids.
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Old July 11th, 2018, 01:41 PM
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but it's RARE!
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Old July 11th, 2018, 01:45 PM
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in a nod to its heritage the VIN has a 455 in it !!!


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Originally Posted by RetroRanger
in a nod to its heritage the VIN has a 455 in it !!!


I can just hear the salesman... See that VIN right there, It has a 455 in it. Some buyer would likely fall for it being the engine. Now we understand the price tag, lol.
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Some diehard Oldsmobile fan will see that 455 in the Vin# as a sign and buy it.
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It pains me to admit that despite my hatred for these cars, I find this example kind of cool. If the price were on this planet, I MIGHT have to lie down until the crazy thoughts passed...


Some of us here are old enough to have actually received this magazine in the mail.


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Gateway classic cars prices them high. I'm not a fan of that model but the car in the picture looks well maintained.
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Old July 11th, 2018, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RetroRanger
in a nod to its heritage the VIN has a 455 in it !!!



It also has an "F" for FAIL.....
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The radical restyling was met with mixed reactions but nevertheless the Cutlass remained a cornerstone offering for GM and served the brand well until another redesign in 1979. This 1978 Olds Salon fastback coupe is a true survivor that retains the pure essence of the late 1970s
Ahahahahahahahahaha...no chance in hell.
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Old July 11th, 2018, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary M
Gateway classic cars prices them high.

These are the same sellers asking $80K for a Jetfire.
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The magazine refers to it as "mid engine". It looks well back of the midpoint to me. If they had grafted on part of a vista cruiser roof it could have been a "rear engine" ?
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X2

I agree. The only way I could write that is if my boss owned one and it was the last job on earth.

edit: I need to type faster. Was referring to post #18

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Old July 11th, 2018, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by OLDSter Ralph
The magazine refers to it as "mid engine". It looks well back of the midpoint to me. If they had grafted on part of a vista cruiser roof it could have been a "rear engine" ?

Conventional terminology uses "mid engine" to refer to any configuration where the engine is primarily between the front and rear wheels. Admittedly, the use of a rear-mounted Toro drive is questionable since the drive axles run almost directly below the no. 2 main cap; the majority of the engine is actually behind the axle centerline. I guess technically, this makes a stock 1966 Toro a mid-engine car!


Actually, front-engine cars with the engine primarily behind the front axle centerline are often referred to as front-mid-engine configurations. The goal in all cases is to get the mass as close to the CG as possible so the car will corner better. In engineering terms this is a smaller polar moment of inertia, so less resistance to turning.



Here's an interesting look at it.
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[QUOTE=joe_padavano;1108500]Conventional terminology uses "mid engine" to refer to any configuration where the engine is primarily between the front and rear wheels. Admittedly, the use of a rear-mounted Toro drive is questionable since the drive axles run almost directly below the no. 2 main cap; the majority of the engine is actually behind the axle centerline. I guess technically, this makes a stock 1966 Toro a mid-engine car!


YEEHAW, when I list my 66 "Toro" on Mecum with a reserve of $500,000, I am going to make sure buyers are aware of the rare "mid engine" technology.<--HUMOR
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I think most of the c2-c4 Corvettes were like that. The front wheels are level with the fuel pump.
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
It pains me to admit that despite my hatred for these cars, I find this example kind of cool. If the price were on this planet, I MIGHT have to lie down until the crazy thoughts passed...


Some of us here are old enough to have actually received this magazine in the mail.


didn't get it in the mail but the high school library got em every month.
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I remember that cover! I think I had pants that matched it.
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I had forgotten about those cars....now time to do it again...ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz
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Old July 12th, 2018, 06:53 AM
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Asking price is whack, but I like the car. Its cool to see the weird ones survive.
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Old July 12th, 2018, 04:52 PM
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Good Lord, those are probably the ugliest Oldsmobile’s ever made.
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
It pains me to admit that despite my hatred for these cars, I find this example kind of cool. If the price were on this planet, I MIGHT have to lie down until the crazy thoughts passed...


Some of us here are old enough to have actually received this magazine in the mail.


Not only old enough I may still even have it in my pile of mags I save but will never read again.
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I received that mag in the mail too !

Mid engine 442 appears to still be around:
http://www.hotrodharrys.com/cars/sho...hp?articleID=4
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Old July 13th, 2018, 07:32 AM
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That's a cool Cutlass. I don't think there's an Olds that was made that I wouldn't drive. Even a 61 or 42, and they were fugly.

Too bad the price is so ridiculous.
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Old July 13th, 2018, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Olds64
Even a 61 or 42, and they were fugly.




The bubble-top 61s are among the best looking Oldsmobiles ever.
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
It pains me to admit that despite my hatred for these cars, I find this example kind of cool. If the price were on this planet, I MIGHT have to lie down until the crazy thoughts passed...


Some of us here are old enough to have actually received this magazine in the mail.


Pretty sure that this was the issue that made me cancel my subscription. My thought at the time was.........if this is all there is, I will buy a Plymouth Volari Station wagon and call it a day. And I did for about 20 years!
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I think all cars were ugly in 78, this was one of the worst IMO. About 1974 American autos took a turn for the worse.
The Vette always stayed a good looking car IMO, but not too crazy about the 84.
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The paint scheme of that 442 on the magazine is reminiscent of the MFP cars in Mad Max. But, that magazine predates the movie. I just think there were some ugly cars in the late 70s and early 80s.
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Old July 14th, 2018, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
It pains me to admit that despite my hatred for these cars, I find this example kind of cool. If the price were on this planet, I MIGHT have to lie down until the crazy thoughts passed...


Some of us here are old enough to have actually received this magazine in the mail.


Joe, that is the only nice version I have ever seen of those awful, Hunchback cars. I assume they were light, with the a factory 403 in that trim above, I would want one. This is where a spoiler should be used along with flares to fix horrible body lines. $17,000 and not even a 5 spd!
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Old July 14th, 2018, 12:36 PM
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Good Lord, those are probably the ugliest Oldsmobile’s ever made.
Those cars were so unpopular when they were new that for the two years they made them, it was almost the only thing my dad, who was an Oldsmobile district sales manager, could get for a company car.

It was a compromised design that was originally supposed to be a hatchback but for some reason, GM chickened at the last minute. They did correct that when came out with the Chevy Citation the same year the canceled the Cutlass Salon.
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buick also had a version of that body style. it could be had with a turbo v6. called it a turbo coupe. it was ugly but it was also pretty fast,my brother had one and it now resides in my back 13. while I was working at fisher when those were built,all I could do was shake my head when one went down the line.
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