glamaina

Hi all,


Been doing some reading specifically the original ordering brochure from 1972 and I cant figure out how one ordered a notch back vs the round back?


According to my VIN, 57 = 2d hardtop coupe but nothing that makes it a notch back.


there is a code for 87 which is also a hardtop coupe and I am assuming this would be for the round back but still just curious if anyone knows how you would have ordered one vs the other.

glamaina

OK so I think I answered my own question. It seems all Supremes were notch back in 72. Every other model was round back.


I also believe that the notch back was introduced in 1970 and all models prior were round back.


Is this correct?

Rocketbrian

The plain Cutlass and the Cutlass S fastback hardtops were the 87 models, and the fast back post coupes were 77s. If you wanted the formal notch back roof, 57 model, that was the Cutlass Supreme.

VI Cutty

Yes, that's correct. The 1970-1972 Supremes were notchbacks (and all 70-72 notchbacks are Supremes)


The fastback style body would be an F85, Cutlass, Cutlass S, 442 or Rallye 350 (1970 only).


You'll also find there are some nuances to the Supreme, for example the grills are specific to year and model.

joe_padavano

The Cutlass Supreme nameplate was introduced in the 1966 model year. It was only available as a 4dr HT that year. The Supreme was just an upscale trim level, and did NOT get a unique VIN that year, so don't read a lot into model names made up by the marketing department. Standard equipment and available body styles varied widely over the years.

For the 1967 model year, the Supreme became it's own model line with a unique 338xx VIN (trivia point: the Vista Cruiser with the Custom trim level also got the Supreme 338xx VIN). The Supreme was offered in five body styles that year, Holiday Coupe, Sport Coupe, Convertible, Town Sedan, and Holiday Sedan. Another trivia point is that for 1967, the only member of the Cutlass line available with bucket seats was the Supreme, so the 442 option was only available on the Supreme in 1967.

1968 and 69 were similar years, when the Supreme was again a unique model line (342xx VIN). Since the 442 became a unique model itself in 1968, the Supreme line was trimmed to three body styles in these years - Holiday Coupe (fastback body), Holiday Sedan, and Town Sedan.

The notchback body shell was introduced on the Pontiac Grand Prix in 1969. For 1970, this "formal roofline" was also used on the Monte Carlo and Cutlass Supreme. The Supreme was again available in only three body styles for 1970, but this time they were the notchback Holiday Coupe, Holiday Sedan, and Convertible. This was duplicated for the 1971 and 72 model years.

joe_padavano

Another note is that despite some of the "clones" people build, Olds never built a 442 using the 34257 notchback body style. The Supreme convertible body did serve as the 442 convertible in 70-72, but never the notchback body (however, the 1972 Hurst/Olds WAS a Cutlass Supreme and carried a Supreme VIN that year).

70cutlass831guy

@joe_padavano glad to see your still spreading knowledge .