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Another dumb question by me. For the life of me I don't know what body style my car is ? 66 442,,sorry don't laugh IT does have the solid door pilar behind the front doors [latch side], it has the painted to match side moldings with chrome wheels. no other emblems other then 442..is this the holiday coupe ?
Last edited by zl1 camaro; December 15th, 2023 at 10:42 AM.
The cowl tag will tell you exactly what body style you have. Post a photo of the tag. in any case, if there is a metal frame around the door windows when you open the door, that is a Sport Coupe. If not, it's a Holiday Coupe (hardtop).
The cowl tag will tell you exactly what body style you have. Post a photo of the tag. in any case, if there is a metal frame around the door windows when you open the door, that is a Sport Coupe. If not, it's a Holiday Coupe (hardtop).
The cowl tag will tell you exactly what body style you have. Post a photo of the tag. in any case, if there is a metal frame around the door windows when you open the door, that is a Sport Coupe. If not, it's a Holiday Coupe (hardtop).
In looking over the prior posts with the illustrations from a brochure, it looks like there were two "sedan" (that is with a post/frame around the door) 442's available: The Sports Coupe, and the Club Coupe?
Is it then true the Sports Coupe had the "flying buttress" inspired "C" pillar with the recessed back window, while the Club Coupe had a more conventional, flush-mounted back window? If not, what is the visual difference between the Club Coupe and the Sports Coupe?
In looking over the prior posts with the illustrations from a brochure, it looks like there were two "sedan" (that is with a post/frame around the door) 442's available: The Sports Coupe, and the Club Coupe?
Is it then true the Sports Coupe had the "flying buttress" inspired "C" pillar with the recessed back window, while the Club Coupe had a more conventional, flush-mounted back window? If not, what is the visual difference between the Club Coupe and the Sports Coupe?
No, not for Olds. Chevy used the two different rooflines, Olds did not. The only difference between Club Coupe and Sports Coupe is trim and upholstery. For example, Club Coupes were F85s and came with rubber floor mats. Sports Coupes were Cutlii and came with rugs.You could optionally get the "deluxe" interior on the Club Coupe, which eliminated those differences.
Why did Olds give the post body style two different codes? Which you could get the 442 option on. Was it only for the body panel punch holes for the trim?
66-33407 F85 standard base model club coupe
66-33807 F85 Cutlass sports coupe
Last edited by CANADIANOLDS; December 18th, 2023 at 01:22 AM.
Why did Olds give the post body style two different codes? Which you could get the 442 option on. Was it only for the body panel punch holes for the trim?
66-33407 F85 standard base model club coupe
66-33807 F85 Cutlass sports coupe
The five digit style codes were used across all GM divisions.
First position was the division (3 = Oldsmobile).
The second and third positions were the model line. For 1966, Olds had three A-body model lines, the 33xx/34xx base F85, the 35xx/36xx F85 Deluxe, and the 38xx Cutlass. The differences in model lines were base equipment, trim, and upholstery, primarily. For the 1966 model year (and this varied by year), the base F85 line came with rubber floor mats, bat-wing steering wheel, little exterior chrome, base dash and door panels, etc. The F85 Deluxe came with carpet, fancier door panels and upholstery, deluxe steering wheel, and more outside trim. Ironically, you could optionally order pretty much all the Deluxe model items on the base model (carpet, exterior trim, deluxe interior, deluxe wheel). I've never actually added up the costs to see which way was cheaper. The Cutlass models were essentially the Deluxe trim level with a standard 4bbl V8 (2bbl optional as a downgrade) and bucket seats on the coupe and convertible models (bench available as a credit option). Also note that the odd-numbered model lines (33xx and 35xx) were six cylinder cars and the even number (34xx, 36xx, 38xx) were V8 cars. The Cutlass only came with a V8, so there was no 37xx.
The fourth and fifth positions were the body style. These were set by Fisher and standardized across all divisions. Again, these varied by model year. For 1966, xx67 was a convertible. xx07 was the Club Coupe/Sports Coupe body. xx17 was Holiday Coupe. xx55 was Vista Cruiser (also Buick SportWagon) with two rows, xx65 was Vista (or SportWagon) with three rows, and xx35 was flattop wagon. As an example of how these Fisher Body numbers were used across divisions, the Chevelle hardtop was also xx17, but the Chevelle two door (post) sedan was xx11 because Chevy used a different roof on their post coupes, whereas Olds used the same "flying buttress" roof on the Club and Sports Coupes as on the Holiday Coupes for 1966. The other interesting thing is that for 1966, Chevy did not use different model line codes for six and eight cylinder cars. Go figure.
Olds also only offered certain body styles in certain model lines. For example, the convertible was a pretty upscale car, so Olds only offered the convertible as a Cutlass for 1966. The only two door in the base F85 line was the Club Coupe, the only two door in the fancier F85 Deluxe line was the Holiday Coupe (hardtop), but the top of the line Cutlass offered both Holiday and Sports Coupes. Go figure. In 1966, the 442 option was available on any 2dr Olds A-body. Interestingly in 1967 the 442 was only available as a Cutlass Supreme.
Last edited by joe_padavano; December 18th, 2023 at 05:24 AM.
The five digit style codes were used across all GM divisions.
First position was the division (3 = Oldsmobile).
The second and third positions were the model line. For 1966, Olds had three A-body model lines, the 33xx/34xx base F85, the 35xx/36xx F85 Deluxe, and the 38xx Cutlass. The differences in model lines were base equipment, trim, and upholstery, primarily. For the 1966 model year (and this varied by year), the base F85 line came with rubber floor mats, bat-wing steering wheel, little exterior chrome, base dash and door panels, etc. The F85 Deluxe came with carpet, fancier door panels and upholstery, deluxe steering wheel, and more outside trim. Ironically, you could optionally order pretty much all the Deluxe model items on the base model (carpet, exterior trim, deluxe interior, deluxe wheel). I've never actually added up the costs to see which way was cheaper. The Cutlass models were essentially the Deluxe trim level with a standard 4bbl V8 (2bbl optional as a downgrade) and bucket seats on the coupe and convertible models (bench available as a credit option). Also note that the odd-numbered model lines (33xx and 35xx) were six cylinder cars and the even number (34xx, 36xx, 38xx) were V8 cars. The Cutlass only came with a V8, so there was no 37xx.
The fourth and fifth positions were the body style. These were set by Fisher and standardized across all divisions. Again, these varied by model year. For 1966, xx67 was a convertible. xx07 was the Club Coupe/Sports Coupe body. xx17 was Holiday Coupe. xx55 was Vista Cruiser (also Buick SportWagon) with two rows, xx65 was Vista (or SportWagon) with three rows, and xx35 was flattop wagon. As an example of how these Fisher Body numbers were used across divisions, the Chevelle hardtop was also xx17, but the Chevelle two door (post) sedan was xx11 because Chevy used a different roof on their post coupes, whereas Olds used the same "flying buttress" roof on the Club and Sports Coupes as on the Holiday Coupes for 1966. The other interesting thing is that for 1966, Chevy did not use different model line codes for six and eight cylinder cars. Go figure.
Olds also only offered certain body styles in certain model lines. For example, the convertible was a pretty upscale car, so Olds only offered the convertible as a Cutlass for 1966. The only two door in the base F85 line was the Club Coupe, the only two door in the fancier F85 Deluxe line was the Holiday Coupe (hardtop), but the top of the line Cutlass offered both Holiday and Sports Coupes. Go figure. In 1966, the 442 option was available on any 2dr Olds A-body. Interestingly in 1967 the 442 was only available as a Cutlass Supreme.
lots of info there. I was just asking about the 2 door post cars specifically when optioned as a 442 which the op was asking about. The two bodies are identical except fisher would have to know which style code so they could punch holes for the side moulding and the rest done at GM?
I didn’t see a pic of his car posted..that’s why I was asking in the first place
it is very confusing when you could option out a deluxe post car and buy a stripper post cutlass. Especially when GM referred to all of them as the F85 line..there were 23 different body style codes if you include the whole F85 line🤪
Last edited by CANADIANOLDS; December 18th, 2023 at 07:56 AM.
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