Saved-68 442
December 16th, 2012, 09:20 AM
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March 9th, 2013, 06:41 PM
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"-GM replaced entire engine on warranty!"
What's all this then?
Did I not hear that it had the original engine previously?
Or was it the original TYPE engine but not VIN-stamped to match?
Or did the factory/dealer re-do the VIN stamp?
Got any pix of the block's VIN stamp?
What's all this then?
Did I not hear that it had the original engine previously?
Or was it the original TYPE engine but not VIN-stamped to match?
Or did the factory/dealer re-do the VIN stamp?
Got any pix of the block's VIN stamp?
March 24th, 2013, 01:46 PM
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I instantly recognized the door locks, my brother had them installed on his 67 Belvedere around '74 or so. Someone did try to break into that car, so his next car had the chrome ones that tapered.
The green of your car is the original color my 68 442 was, some dope painted it a medium brown like a Granada around 1980, yuck!
The green of your car is the original color my 68 442 was, some dope painted it a medium brown like a Granada around 1980, yuck!
August 8th, 2016, 05:34 AM
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Wow, great save. Among the interesting points:
The faux wood steering wheel is pretty rare, nice to see. Same PN was in fact used on Corvettes, and that's how I found my perfect one- years ago, when you could see bidders' name and contact them via ePay, I bid on a 'vette wheel, did not win, but got a note from a 3rd party with one stashed in the basement, and was I interested? The steering wheel and shifter **** should be faux [plastic] wood. The lock ***** are cheesy aftermarket units, probably real wood.
As with all Canadian built 68-9's, your final drive is Chevy [C-] type. Your cowl tag has "344" body style- Lansing built '68 442's did NOT. If you can grab a close nice pic of that I would appreciate it- I collect info like that. Can you post pix or text of the POPlate info? GM of Canada may well have extensive documentation on this car's original configuration.
It looks like an original master cylinder- DO NOT turn it in for a core! Did you say 4-piston disk brakes? Rare as hell and much like Corvette calipers.
Air cleaner looks like the correct OG unit, and HOLY COW IT STILL HAS THE HOT AIR STOVE PARTS. And, it still has the steel PCV tube in the LH side also. It looks like she does NOT have HD cooling - can you spot the water pump ID [RH outlet boss] or the 6-digit casting ID on the inlet runner? Pulley ID codes readable?
It appears to not have heavy duty cooling. Yes, your engine ID is the correct "G" 400. The VIN stamp will probably match your VIN - about 2 fingers below the "C" found on the front of the LH head, on the vertical wall about 1/2 x 2" machined onto the block. It will be absent the "4487" part but otherwise will match the VIN tag. Ditto for the Auto trans - OG tag on RH side, and VIN stamp on LH side, just above the pan gasket, in the cast textured part of the housing. About midway fore-aft in the pan area.
one of your codes is probably the RARE TRIM I see between side windows and headliner - I have only seen this once or twice before, one was a car up north which I just refound a couple weeks ago- and it is a sport coupe I think. Not super exciting, but still a -rare- feature.
Dash stripe looks correct.
The "2-1-5" I believe was basically 5 columns off the Hollerith type Build Sheet Card, so various options would be called out by populating each column with a particular digit- for example, and this part I am just making up, so don't quote this- if you had HD brakes column 1 might be "1"; if you got power DISK brakes instead it would instead be a "2" - various other combinations would lead to [nothing or a dash as you wrote] or 3 or 4 or etc. Same with cooling options in some other column, lighting options in another column, etc.
More photos! Get the rear end ratio by counting turns, or... you know it needs inspection/ fresh juice anyhow... remove the cover and read the #'s stamped into the ring gear- it'll be tooth count- probably 3.07:1 or so for a C type diff ["43 14" would be stamped into the ring gear OD]. They always like to use a prime number for at least one of the tooth counts.
The faux wood steering wheel is pretty rare, nice to see. Same PN was in fact used on Corvettes, and that's how I found my perfect one- years ago, when you could see bidders' name and contact them via ePay, I bid on a 'vette wheel, did not win, but got a note from a 3rd party with one stashed in the basement, and was I interested? The steering wheel and shifter **** should be faux [plastic] wood. The lock ***** are cheesy aftermarket units, probably real wood.
As with all Canadian built 68-9's, your final drive is Chevy [C-] type. Your cowl tag has "344" body style- Lansing built '68 442's did NOT. If you can grab a close nice pic of that I would appreciate it- I collect info like that. Can you post pix or text of the POPlate info? GM of Canada may well have extensive documentation on this car's original configuration.
It looks like an original master cylinder- DO NOT turn it in for a core! Did you say 4-piston disk brakes? Rare as hell and much like Corvette calipers.
Air cleaner looks like the correct OG unit, and HOLY COW IT STILL HAS THE HOT AIR STOVE PARTS. And, it still has the steel PCV tube in the LH side also. It looks like she does NOT have HD cooling - can you spot the water pump ID [RH outlet boss] or the 6-digit casting ID on the inlet runner? Pulley ID codes readable?
It appears to not have heavy duty cooling. Yes, your engine ID is the correct "G" 400. The VIN stamp will probably match your VIN - about 2 fingers below the "C" found on the front of the LH head, on the vertical wall about 1/2 x 2" machined onto the block. It will be absent the "4487" part but otherwise will match the VIN tag. Ditto for the Auto trans - OG tag on RH side, and VIN stamp on LH side, just above the pan gasket, in the cast textured part of the housing. About midway fore-aft in the pan area.
one of your codes is probably the RARE TRIM I see between side windows and headliner - I have only seen this once or twice before, one was a car up north which I just refound a couple weeks ago- and it is a sport coupe I think. Not super exciting, but still a -rare- feature.
Dash stripe looks correct.
The "2-1-5" I believe was basically 5 columns off the Hollerith type Build Sheet Card, so various options would be called out by populating each column with a particular digit- for example, and this part I am just making up, so don't quote this- if you had HD brakes column 1 might be "1"; if you got power DISK brakes instead it would instead be a "2" - various other combinations would lead to [nothing or a dash as you wrote] or 3 or 4 or etc. Same with cooling options in some other column, lighting options in another column, etc.
More photos! Get the rear end ratio by counting turns, or... you know it needs inspection/ fresh juice anyhow... remove the cover and read the #'s stamped into the ring gear- it'll be tooth count- probably 3.07:1 or so for a C type diff ["43 14" would be stamped into the ring gear OD]. They always like to use a prime number for at least one of the tooth counts.
August 10th, 2016, 10:05 AM
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Yes, RIP fellow Oldsmobro. 
Condolences to his family.
Any idea what Chris was referring to with regards to "rare interior trim between the roof rail and head liner?" Isnt that stainless piece common to all 68 holidays?
Condolences to his family. Any idea what Chris was referring to with regards to "rare interior trim between the roof rail and head liner?" Isnt that stainless piece common to all 68 holidays?
August 10th, 2016, 07:44 PM
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I seem to remember that it was wider than the common piece. There was no RPO code for it on my docs, but it was definitely wider.
August 11th, 2016, 09:27 AM
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Octanias quote...one of your codes is probably the RARE TRIM I see between side windows and headliner - I have only seen this once or twice before, one was a car up north which I just refound a couple weeks ago- and it is a sport coupe I think. Not super exciting, but still a -rare- feature."
That trim in yours looks the same as mine? Unless I unknowingly have said rare trim? Wouldn't doubt is as my early built car has some anomalies.
Team show us your 68 interior roof rail stainless to compare.
That trim in yours looks the same as mine? Unless I unknowingly have said rare trim? Wouldn't doubt is as my early built car has some anomalies.
Team show us your 68 interior roof rail stainless to compare.
August 12th, 2016, 12:12 PM
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Yes thanks. When you get the chance sit in the seat and take a shot of it that way, as well as where it dips below or into the sail panel to get a perspective of the width. Whats the build date on your car and which plant? Does it have a code for that on the body tag?
August 12th, 2016, 12:18 PM
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Yes thanks. When you get the chance sit in the seat and take a shot of it that way, as well as where it dips below or into the sail panel to get a perspective of the width. Whats the build date on your car and which plant? Does it have a code for that on the body tag?
Options
Since it is Canadian built, the original option information can be retrieved.
Vehicle: 1968 Oldsmobile 442.
Trim: 940 - Black Buckets
Paint: G- Willow Gold Metallic
Stripe: C - Provincial White.
Production Plant: Oshawa Ontario Canada
Production Date: January 10, 1968
Shipping Date: January 11, 1968
Model Number: 34487 - 442 - 2dr holiday coupe
Engine: 400 CID 325 HP 4bbl Rocket V8
Engine Number: 8243162
Dealer: Ross Wemp Motors Ltd., Rexdale Ont
Number Produced for sale in Canada (same model number only) 1,070
RPO Code Description
AS1 - SEAT BELTS: FRONT SHOULDER HARNESS
A81 - HEAD RESTRAINT - SEATBACK
B32 - MATS: FRONT FLOOR
B33 - MATS: REAR FLOOR
D55 - FRONT COMPARTMENT FLOOR CONSOLE
J52 - BRAKES: FRONT DISC
M40 - TRANSMISSION: 3-SPEED AUTOMATIC (THM 400)
N34 - STEERING WHEEL: CUSTOM SPORT
N40 - POWER STEERING
PW8 - TIRE: F70-14-4 PR - RED STRIPE
U29 - LAMP: COURTESY, INSTRUMENT PANEL
U63 - RADIO: AM PUSHBUTTON
U80 - AUXILIARY SPEAKER REAR
Z49 - MANDATORY CANADIAN BASE EQUIPMENT MODIFICATIONS
I'll try to get better pictures this weekend. It'll probably be too dark by the time I get home tonight.
August 13th, 2016, 08:21 AM
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Here are some pictures of the interior trim in a little better lighting. My kids seem to have stolen my tape measure so poorly placed ruler for scale.
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August 13th, 2016, 12:30 PM
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August 13th, 2016, 12:44 PM
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August 13th, 2016, 12:47 PM
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. To many people just adding the W36 stripe to their cars. This is new to me. This can probably be posted on another thread, but wasn't there a white W30 convertible with no W36 stripe trying to be sold?
August 16th, 2016, 09:53 AM
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Didn't all 68 442 and Cutlass Holidays receive the interior roof rail stainless? Mine has the same stainless. 09C build. Im pretty sure thats a standard interior item. But Im not done learning. Are we saying two sizes of the stainless exist? By the pics it looks exactly line mine. I too had the GT stripes(had).
How about this for a super rare option!...lol
How about this for a super rare option!...lol
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