quadrajet rebuilding
#3
I had Danny Sarvis (70WCars) rebuild a Q-jet for my 71 98. It ran so much better than the POS Summit carb I have now. He hasn't been active in years but you might try sending him an e-mail though his profile.
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...s/70wcars.html
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...s/70wcars.html
#4
Phil at Custom Rebuilt Carburetor 732-356-4333, www.customrebuiltcarbs.com
#6
Eightupman (John Herald Jr) on ClassicOlds has a great reputation and he just spent about 15 minutes on the phone with me talking me down from the ledge on a carb that I bought from a reputable q-jet rebuilder. It wasn't running worth a crap and I couldn't get a hold of the rebuilder. John walked me through the basic settings and I was able to tune it in from there. Some of the settings were so far off I never would have been able to figure it out myself
Last edited by allyolds68; June 12th, 2019 at 06:59 AM.
#7
You can also send it to cliff in Ohio. He can flow bench test it, re color it, has all the parts, or can hop it up for you. anything you want to pay for. Lol
https://cliffshighperformance.com/
https://cliffshighperformance.com/
Last edited by Burd; June 12th, 2019 at 09:13 AM.
#9
Two that have been doing just this for quite some time, with excellent results -
Sparky's Carburetor Service http://www.sparkyscarbs.com/
Daytona Parts Co http://www.daytonaparts.com/
Sparky's Carburetor Service http://www.sparkyscarbs.com/
Daytona Parts Co http://www.daytonaparts.com/
#11
DO IT YOURSELF!
I rebuilt the quadrajet on my '78 Toronado. Second time I've rebuilt a carb. First time was the two-barrel on my '67 Delta 88. It's really not difficult, will save you A LOT of money (just the cost of a $20 rebuild kit), and you get a lot of satisfaction in doing the job yourself. And you can do it in an afternoon, not wait the weeks or whatever to get it back from a rebuilder.
People find the prospect of rebuilding a carburetor intimidating and seem to think that rebuilding one requires some kind of magical skill, and the professional rebuilders want you to think this so that you'll pay their several hundred dollar fees. But rebuilding a carburetor is not like creating a painting or any work of art. There's no "judgment" involved. You just disassemble it and reassemble it with the new parts in the kit. Not much different from fixing a broken table lamp. Just more parts. Then make the necessary adjustments when it's on your car. It's not complicated, and there are lots of video to show you how to do this as well.
I found this video be very helpful. I actually had my laptop computer on the workbench and would pause the video as it went along and as I did each step.
I rebuilt the quadrajet on my '78 Toronado. Second time I've rebuilt a carb. First time was the two-barrel on my '67 Delta 88. It's really not difficult, will save you A LOT of money (just the cost of a $20 rebuild kit), and you get a lot of satisfaction in doing the job yourself. And you can do it in an afternoon, not wait the weeks or whatever to get it back from a rebuilder.
People find the prospect of rebuilding a carburetor intimidating and seem to think that rebuilding one requires some kind of magical skill, and the professional rebuilders want you to think this so that you'll pay their several hundred dollar fees. But rebuilding a carburetor is not like creating a painting or any work of art. There's no "judgment" involved. You just disassemble it and reassemble it with the new parts in the kit. Not much different from fixing a broken table lamp. Just more parts. Then make the necessary adjustments when it's on your car. It's not complicated, and there are lots of video to show you how to do this as well.
I found this video be very helpful. I actually had my laptop computer on the workbench and would pause the video as it went along and as I did each step.
#13
Quadrajets are very versatile carbs. They were used on a variety of engines, and up to 500 cubic inch engines. Some consider them dinosaurs, but they can be performance tuned. Many people don't understand them and opt for an after market carb. There wouldn't be as many good "performance rebuilders" out there, if they were as bad as many people infer.
.........Just my two cents worth.
.........Just my two cents worth.
#14
Jaunty: Good point. I agree you can rebuild yourself. Not that hard to do. I have done a few over the years and they ran fine. However, I would personally spend the money on someone who can set it up exactly and re-bush the throttle shafts. After this many years, the throttle shaft area gets worn on these old carbs and potential vacuum leaks. You can buy a kit to rebush it yourself but I would rather pay someone who can drill it exactly straight, etc.
all that being said, I have heard good things about both Ken at everyday performance in CT and custom rebuilt carbs in NJ.
all that being said, I have heard good things about both Ken at everyday performance in CT and custom rebuilt carbs in NJ.
#15
There is a guy in Burbank Cal, BFIC. He’s had rare carbs on the shelf ready to go. If your looking for a certain number. Call Carlos.
https://www.carbsonly.com/frames/carsandtrks.htm
https://www.carbsonly.com/frames/carsandtrks.htm
#16
While we’re on the topic, this guy was at the TA natz a few years back, I picked up his book, I thing he quit printing it already, I can’t find it on line, it’s good for the swaps. It lists a lot of carbs. Lists what it’s for, even service replacement and marine. If you got a carb laying around and don’t know what it’s for, let’s try it.
Last edited by Burd; June 13th, 2019 at 04:54 AM.
#18
Rebuilding one is no big deal. The problem comes with re-calibration and repairing 40 years of wear. Usually there are some changes that need to be made to the tune for today’s gas, and to compensate for engine modifications. That’s when it’s nice to buy the kit from a Q-Jet specialist, not only will they have the special tuning parts, but the quality is probably much better than your 20 dollar parts store rebuild kits
#19
Matt69olds is correct.
Doing it yourself is no big deal. It's knowing the tricks that important. I used Cliff Ruggles for my 70 w30. I have rebuilt it many times throughout the years and finally decided to let Cliff do his magic.
It was very reasonable and a fast turnaround. He incorporated all the tricks and the carb looks and runs perfect. He was a pleasure to deal with.
Doing it yourself is no big deal. It's knowing the tricks that important. I used Cliff Ruggles for my 70 w30. I have rebuilt it many times throughout the years and finally decided to let Cliff do his magic.
It was very reasonable and a fast turnaround. He incorporated all the tricks and the carb looks and runs perfect. He was a pleasure to deal with.
#20
DO IT YOURSELF!
I rebuilt the quadrajet on my '78 Toronado. Second time I've rebuilt a carb. First time was the two-barrel on my '67 Delta 88. It's really not difficult, will save you A LOT of money (just the cost of a $20 rebuild kit), and you get a lot of satisfaction in doing the job yourself. And you can do it in an afternoon, not wait the weeks or whatever to get it back from a rebuilder.
People find the prospect of rebuilding a carburetor intimidating and seem to think that rebuilding one requires some kind of magical skill, and the professional rebuilders want you to think this so that you'll pay their several hundred dollar fees. But rebuilding a carburetor is not like creating a painting or any work of art. There's no "judgment" involved. You just disassemble it and reassemble it with the new parts in the kit. Not much different from fixing a broken table lamp. Just more parts. Then make the necessary adjustments when it's on your car. It's not complicated, and there are lots of video to show you how to do this as well.
I rebuilt the quadrajet on my '78 Toronado. Second time I've rebuilt a carb. First time was the two-barrel on my '67 Delta 88. It's really not difficult, will save you A LOT of money (just the cost of a $20 rebuild kit), and you get a lot of satisfaction in doing the job yourself. And you can do it in an afternoon, not wait the weeks or whatever to get it back from a rebuilder.
People find the prospect of rebuilding a carburetor intimidating and seem to think that rebuilding one requires some kind of magical skill, and the professional rebuilders want you to think this so that you'll pay their several hundred dollar fees. But rebuilding a carburetor is not like creating a painting or any work of art. There's no "judgment" involved. You just disassemble it and reassemble it with the new parts in the kit. Not much different from fixing a broken table lamp. Just more parts. Then make the necessary adjustments when it's on your car. It's not complicated, and there are lots of video to show you how to do this as well.
Rebuilding one is no big deal. The problem comes with re-calibration and repairing 40 years of wear. Usually there are some changes that need to be made to the tune for today’s gas, and to compensate for engine modifications. That’s when it’s nice to buy the kit from a Q-Jet specialist, not only will they have the special tuning parts, but the quality is probably much better than your 20 dollar parts store rebuild kits
The problem is RECALIBRATING the carb. THAT takes far more talent and experience than a "rebuild". And most folks aren't equipped to re-plate tarnished parts to restore the "new look".
If the carb isn't being recalibrated--just returned to stock calibrations except "clean and properly-adjusted", there's no reason you can't take this project on as a weekend project. When practically every car on Earth had a carburetor, lots of carbs got rebuilt with aerosol carb spray to clean 'em, and a parts-store "kit" of gaskets and small parts.
TODAY I'd want one of Cliff Ruggles' accelerator pumps at minimum, but his entire kit would be nice. His pumps will survive E10 fuel, and some others won't even though they're advertised as "Ethanol safe".
While you're at it, get Ruggles' book on Q-Jet carbs, and a copy of Doug Roe's book on Rochester Carbs including Q-jets. Heaps of good info in both.
Last edited by Schurkey; June 14th, 2019 at 06:46 AM.
#22
×2 did a custom tune on a 78 403 carb that wouldn't idle. Years after I had him build it, I had a weird choke issue bending linkage. He sent me parts free of charge. He is a Buick guy but currently owns a 84 Hurst/Olds he is fixing up.
#23
Bought a Quadrajet from Quadrajetpower.com about a month ago and I would not recommend them. Had too many issues for as much as it was. A carburetor from a reputable builder should not have a stuck float, loose bolts, or a secondaries that have not been adjusted to open completely...
#24
I've use Cliff Ruggles as well for the carb on my 72 W30. He is a big fan with the Pontiac guys. That was over 15 years ago and all is well. But I've heard that when he gets backed up there can be as much as a 12 month wait. I recall at the time it took about 30 days to have mine rebuilt.
Warren
Warren
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#29
I see you edited. Sounds like it may have a few strands of broken throttle cable internally causing it to stick.
#30
*I would not know. The Rochester was rebuilt by a carb guy over fifteen years ago. It is highly unlikely that the return spring is on "backwards". The Rochester has worked for fifteen years and still works. Had WOT occur and it was not any event to be left for the weak. Do not know squat about carbs, just the basics. I just shifted in neutral and gunned the accelerator to kick it back down which worked. Someone said to shut the motor off or you could blow the motor. Any assistance here is appreciated.
Cleaned the exterior housing and everything is normal at the moment. Do not wish to be in that position again.
Cleaned the exterior housing and everything is normal at the moment. Do not wish to be in that position again.
#31
I see you edited. Sounds like it may have a few strands of broken throttle cable internally causing it to stick.
What do you mean 'internally'? If it were the throttle cable, what would replacement cost be?
#33
#35
They are relatively easy to change out. You could possibly U tube it to get an idea. Also, yes you would lose
power steering and your power brakes with the engine off but you can power through that with a heavy foot and strong arms.
power steering and your power brakes with the engine off but you can power through that with a heavy foot and strong arms.
Last edited by tru-blue 442; June 23rd, 2019 at 08:32 PM. Reason: spelling
#36
* That is the specific reason I did not shut the ignition 'off', due to possibly losing control, especially in traffic. Could I shut the ignition off and shift into Neutral and start in Neutral? What I did was move the gear selector into Neutral, gun the accelerator and then shift back into Drive which worked. Is this method o.k.? Hesitant to believe that it could be a throttle cable whereas the causes are not really related to a frayed throttle cable which it is not. Some points of a bad throttle cable pertain to cruise, rough idle etc. but I do not know. I'm not touching the Rochester, rather have someone look at it, if I can find someone. Thanks very much.
#37
#38
IF (big IF) the throttle was WFO, and you threw the shifter into neutral, the connecting rods came out of the block and you drove over them. And the crankshaft.
I'm guessing the throttle was not WFO, at least not the secondaries if the engine survived running at no-load.
I'm guessing the throttle was not WFO, at least not the secondaries if the engine survived running at no-load.
#39
IF (big IF) the throttle was WFO, and you threw the shifter into neutral, the connecting rods came out of the block and you drove over them. And the crankshaft.
I'm guessing the throttle was not WFO, at least not the secondaries if the engine survived running at no-load.
I'm guessing the throttle was not WFO, at least not the secondaries if the engine survived running at no-load.
"I'm guessing the throttle was not WFO, at least not the secondaries if the engine survived running at no-load" > 'Please elaborate in terms I can understand. Thanks very much.
#40
* I found this piece which seems to relate to my issue:
Sudden Surge in Speed While Driving on the Highway
This is a particularly hazardous situation. What usually happens is that at high speeds, the butterfly valve inside the throttle may close up, and if the driver pushes on the pedal harder, the valve 'pops' open suddenly, giving the car an unintentional burst of speed. All of this happens if the sensor is unable to detect the closed position of the throttle.
*Could the TPS be at fault?
This is a particularly hazardous situation. What usually happens is that at high speeds, the butterfly valve inside the throttle may close up, and if the driver pushes on the pedal harder, the valve 'pops' open suddenly, giving the car an unintentional burst of speed. All of this happens if the sensor is unable to detect the closed position of the throttle.
*Could the TPS be at fault?