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Old January 5th, 2018, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by cherokeepeople View Post
your plug wires are set up for a clockwise rotation olds rotates counterclockwise.number 1 is correct but then 8 should be on the other side of the window.you have number 2 there im assuming can;t see where pass side wires go.but then you have 5 and 7. and you can see number 3 is also in correct spot in corelation to clockwise rotation
You hit it right on the head I have them clockwise... thanks I will fix tomorrow and try it again with a update ... I'll do the timing and everything all over to make sure it's right
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Old January 6th, 2018, 02:47 AM
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Eric, I totally disagree. The distributor should be wired with the #1 plug wire above the window on the cap. I think all he had to do was raise the distributor up slightly and move it over to the next groove on the distributor gear. He didn't need to take it all the way out of the car. He is just trying to get it to where the vacuum advance doesn't hit the firewall where he can set the timing properly.
Yes, I agree, all he had to do was raise the distributor and reset the rotor position correctly. Which I assumed is what he did. Note, the distributor does not care which position is number one as long as the firing order is correct.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 05:41 AM
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Thank Eric. I understand that about the wiring on the distributor. Your could actually put the #1 on the back side which would be goofy. That is what I was trying to keep from happening. When I was in high school, my buddy and I both had 40 Fords. I put a SBC in mine and his had a 48 Merc flathead. He decided to replace his plug wires. On the flathead the distributor was on the front of the engine and if I remember correctly, it was number for the plug wires. So we go in and rip all the plug wires off and then wire it up just like a SBC with the #1 on the left front and then all the odd cylinders on the left and all the even ones on the right. Then it would not run. It coughed and backfired. We checked all the wire and they were correct or so we thought. You know where this is going. The flathead cylinders are number 1 through 4 on the left bank and 5 through 8 on the right bank. We never figured it out. My biddies next door neighbor told him what we had done. That was over 50 years ago but I still remember it. Does Ford still use that numbering system?
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Old January 6th, 2018, 06:24 AM
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Ford has had some different firing orders over the years besides the way they number the cylinders.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 11:16 AM
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I'm beyond proud to report back to let everybody know the car is running and purring even better then it did before I did the work! Thanks to all of your contributions and knowledge. You all taught me more then you'll ever know and I appreciate it so much! Special thanks to Oldscutlass redoldsman 76olds and Cherokeepeople for sticking it out with me even in your frustrations here and there. Again thanks good people I'm beyond excited
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Old January 6th, 2018, 11:34 AM
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We knew you had it in you, now you need to tear into the transmission!
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Old January 6th, 2018, 11:38 AM
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Make sure you get a tach/ dwell meter and a timing light, you'll be surprised how far you are off. Glad you stuck with it instead of throwing your hands up and going to a shop. A lot of us have pretty much been as frustrated in our beginnings as you.
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Well done Tim !!!!!
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Old January 6th, 2018, 12:05 PM
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Make sure you get a tach/ dwell meter and a timing light, you'll be surprised how far you are off. Glad you stuck with it instead of throwing your hands up and going to a shop. A lot of us have pretty much been as frustrated in our beginnings as you.
Thanks and yes that's very true ... so I'm the mean time I'll get those things. Next up once I get all the vacuum back together is the oil pan gasket

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Old January 6th, 2018, 01:09 PM
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I'm beyond proud to report back to let everybody know the car is running and purring even better then it did before I did the work! Thanks to all of your contributions and knowledge. You all taught me more then you'll ever know and I appreciate it so much! Special thanks to Oldscutlass redoldsman 76olds and Cherokeepeople for sticking it out with me even in your frustrations here and there. Again thanks good people I'm beyond excited
I didn't come into the thread until late but i will accept the thanks haha, I think Joe P and Oldcutlass set the pace here and the direction Tim needed to proceed in.
Cherokeepeople was a tremendous help, made sure it was good to go, ready to fire it up for the second time, noticing your plug wires were out of place.
Good eye Cherokeepeople !!
I was just happy to be a part of this thread and see you through it, we all knew you had the capabilities, just needed direction.
This thread will help out many other newbie's in the future, perhaps you Tim will be coaching them on at that time since you now have the hands on experience.
Cheers to all that participated and worked together, that is why Classic Olds is the best Oldsmobile site on the net!!
Put-r-ther!!
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Old January 6th, 2018, 01:20 PM
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I didn't come into the thread until late but i will accept the thanks haha, I think Joe P and Oldcutlass set the pace here and the direction Tim needed to proceed in.
Cherokeepeople was a tremendous help, made sure it was good to go, ready to fire it up for the second time, noticing your plug wires were out of place.
Good eye Cherokeepeople !!
I was just happy to be a part of this thread and see you through it, we all knew you had the capabilities, just needed direction.
This thread will help out many other newbie's in the future, perhaps you Tim will be coaching them on at that time since you now have the hands on experience.
Cheers to all that participated and worked together, that is why Classic Olds is the best Oldsmobile site on the net!!
Put-r-ther!!
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Very true thanks Joe P also!! I didn't realize I missed him ! Cheers to all!!
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Old January 6th, 2018, 02:25 PM
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We will all be in your corner when you start on the Oil Pan Gasket, I think the Rear main seal will be where most of the oil leak is coming from.
Then the MAW'S come into play haha.
Happy to hear it's purrin' like a kitten again.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 07:14 PM
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your welcome tim it was fun.and as for this pic,is it of the front of the oil pan?
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Old January 6th, 2018, 07:50 PM
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your welcome tim it was fun.and as for this pic,is it of the front of the oil pan?
Yes. Ive been in here thinking I may just take it somewhere to get it done since from what I been seeing from other threads its a challenge because of the space of being able to have enough space to do it
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Old January 6th, 2018, 08:07 PM
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That might be a good idea Tim. I don't know but you may have to loosen the motor mounts and raise the engine to get the pan off. Working under a car and taking an oil pan off without a lift is a miserable job. It is very nasty and you are going to get trash in your eyes. Laying on your back on a creeper doing that is no fun. Congrats on getting your car going.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 09:01 PM
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thats the front pan lip seal.looks like it has had a timing chain replaced and they didn't do it right.how many miles on it??
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Old January 6th, 2018, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cherokeepeople View Post
thats the front pan lip seal.looks like it has had a timing chain replaced and they didn't do it right.how many miles on it??
66***, thousand
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Old January 6th, 2018, 09:37 PM
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you think 66 or 166k??if 166 it has definately had a timing chain.might not have to pull the pan just the waterpump and timing chain cover and replace that seal
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Old January 7th, 2018, 05:52 AM
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Let's see some pictures of your car!
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Old January 7th, 2018, 07:26 AM
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exactly.this thread has been soooo long i forgot just what we you are working on here.pics would help me remember!!
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Old January 9th, 2018, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by cherokeepeople View Post
you think 66 or 166k??if 166 it has definately had a timing chain.might not have to pull the pan just the waterpump and timing chain cover and replace that seal
Pics of the rubber on the pedals would be a good start to guesstimate mileage.
I bet if we try we can get this thread up to 300 + posts.

Good luck with it Tim. Looks like you may have a nice cruiser in the drive
for chasing parts.
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Old January 9th, 2018, 07:29 AM
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thats a nice looking car.makes the 263 posts worth it.
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Old January 9th, 2018, 07:36 AM
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Very nice. I really like the color.
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Old January 9th, 2018, 08:58 AM
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Great looking car Tim.
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Old January 9th, 2018, 09:28 AM
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Nice car!
If nobody has already mentioned it , do you have an Oldsmobile Chassis Service Manual ?
Original printed copies are best , E-bay is the best place to find one .
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Old January 10th, 2018, 06:09 PM
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This reminds me of when I was 17 and decided to change the plug wires on my 58' , what a disaster!!!
First get a book on the car your working on and study what job your going to be doing.
Second, get someone to help you that has done the job before!
Third, tag every wire and hose, take notes, draw diagrams, and today there's no reason not to take pics before the disaster occurs.
Good luck Dennis
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Beautiful ride Tim !!!!
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Old January 25th, 2018, 05:09 PM
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Thanks everybody. One last thing....Ive finally got a chance to drive the car and for some reason its not changing out of 1st. Wasnt having any transmission issures before. Any Ideas>? Ive searched a couple forums and havent found anything
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there is a vacuum line to the transmission modulator.is it hooked up??
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there is a vacuum line to the transmission modulator.is it hooked up??
Exactly what it was Thanks!!!!!
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usually there is a steel line that comes up next to the dipstick tube
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usually there is a steel line that comes up next to the dipstick tube
Yes that's exactly where it was and what it was
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Got the new oil pan gasket replaced! Cost 300 but well worth not seeing those oil spots in the garage
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your welcome tim it was fun.and as for this pic,is it of the front of the oil pan?
It was a mess before!!!
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