Octania

"You have included 27 images in your message. You are limited to using 20 images" harumph.

Thanks to Photobucket for failing to upload many of these, then re-ordering them for me so I could use an extra hour or so time to get these right....ish.

Anyone got a #5 intake? Anyone ever seen one?

This covers most of the mundane Small Block factory offerings.

CO, please don't LOSE THIS like them ingrates over at ROP.

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[no #5 manifold photos - does it exist? ]

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Search key word: 2 of each letter: iinnttaakkee

Octania

And the post-#17 units:

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[No A3 Intake is known to exist...]



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"E" for EGR era intakes, iron units made before the AL units were developed?

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Rare BB intake, judging by the high main ID letter, probably about 1976. Obviously Toronado...



key for finding this thread 13099

Hairy Olds

1965 Sharp manifold used on the rear engine of the Hurst Hairy Olds.

Paladin31

Very Cool Chris, thanks for sharing

Octania

Thanks for the support, sometimes it feels thankless...

So, no one has ever seen a #5 intake? Really?

Anyone got better pix, like the #13?

OH PS a few of the photos I had labelled "opp" for Other People's Parts.... grabbed photo offa apay or whatnot.... if a photo is yours, and you don't wish to share it with the world, just say so.

69ho aurora

Here's a small block Victor/Olds with the water rails drilled out sitting on my 454 cube diesel block with Battens. Never even started the engine before selling it off

Paladin31

Octania-Here's a little clearer picture of a #16

2blu442

Chris, I've got a #5 on a 1966 330 2bbl engine. It came out of a car with California emissions on it so that may be why it's an odd ball. The engine is still together, buried deep in the bowls of my garage. Remind me next weekend and I'll try to snap a picture of it if you'd like.

John

Octania

Thanks, that would beat the zero photos which I have now.

Not that anyone will ever come looking for a #5 intake, right?

All my '66 parts cars came to me w/ no engine, or a BB [big cars]

Octania

OK, you nitpicking experts:
What's wrong with these pictures? Maybe not "wrong" but "odd"...

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Octania

Here's the Factory Experimental Lo-Rise Toronado AL intake "EE-24350"

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2blu442

Not a nitpicker, but as a brain teaser... I looked at them and believe your point is they have the same casting number (391136) but different casting letters (A vs D). Was that it or is there something else I didn't pick up on?

Octania

We have a winner!

Same letter part with differing casting numbers is not uncommon
J std intake vs J 69-H/O intake
W LH vs W RH xst manifold
"H" LH vs "H" RH xst manifolds...
etc. etc.

But the SAME 6-DIGIT CASTING NUMBER on TWO DIFFERENT LETTER code parts is.... odd.

I suspect that when they started making the D manifold, they forgot to change the 6-digit number in the mold. Or, before the end of the run of "A" manifolds, they changed the 6-digit in anticipation?
The "A" is 384438 for '65 2-bbl applications...
B is 384439....
C is 387958
so a 39xxxx number should have come later. Like when the "D" was introduced for the 2nd model year was produced.

'65 First year: A=2bbl; B=4bl
'66 2nd yr: C= Toro; D=2bbl; E= 4bbl; F=3x2
'67 3rd year, F is dropped, G is 2-bbl, and H would have been 3x2
'68 4th year, H=2bbl; J=4bbl; K=Toro
'69 5th year, same H, K, & J-662 std 4-bbl; added J-233 H/O intake;

BlackGold

Want to know more about that intake?

The drawing for EE-24350 was created by J. Gray on 8-11-71, with notes that its purpose in Olds Engineering was for "197X Toro Button Valve EGR."

Most of the experimental parts in this time frame were for the 1973 model year, though just three weeks later a draftsman or engineer named Colby created drawings for three intakes (Toro, 350, and 455) for 1972 with notes of "Hole machined for button valve." So maybe 24350 was targetted for 1972 as well.

How do I know this stuff? I'll start another thread to explain.

rr69ho

See if you guys can figure out what this one is, because non of the Olds ENGR's knew!!!

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Octania

Looks like a pre-H/O prototype modified 398662 with PCV boss but casting ID not changed. Almost like they were going to make all J-398662 intakes with the boss, but only bore it for the nipple if used on H/O.... That late into the production process, the letters K,L,M and such were probably already assigned to other designs, thus the two, now THREE different types of "J" intakes known.
or...

[blashemy]
a real 405233 H/O intake that had its 6-digit changed- see the break line around the 6-digit casting number? Only a blast clean would tell. I assume it is iron. I must say i have never seen one with screw heads adjacent to the "J"

Overall shot of the whole thing?
Where is this thing? Looks like it is installed on an engine.
Fascinating

sammy

2bbl and a 4 bbl intake shown..1968....never seen the two side by side..anybody know significance of the L and W?

thanks,
Ted

sammy

a couple more pics....the 2bbl out of a 68 Cutlass(350), and the 4bbl I saved from a friend that was taking it to the scrap yard....

Octania

CHG L & CHG W are presumably levels of change to the Engineering Drawings that specify all the features so they get made right.

Keeping the 4-bbl or no need for it?

sammy

X2 Chris!...makes for identifying intakes super easy

I do not know what I am going to do with it yet....
I have a 68 350 that I am cleaning up....maybe use on it ......or not
Maybe give it to somebody who actually needs one

Ted

Old Olds Fan

442garage I have to ask, the pic. you posted of the Tri-carb. set up
is this the factory intake powder coated, or painted, or is it an aluminum manifold?

seansolds

My favorite from my 1973 442 offenhauser 360 degree intake.

joe_padavano

All the tri-power intakes were cast iron. That one appears to be HPC coated.

Old Olds Fan

Thanks Joe, I figured it was coated I've been trying to find an aluminum copy, just to save the weight. I've got the L69 induction on my car and really like it.

whiskey runner

i have a question for you olds experts.. i have this aluminum intake i have had laying around for years.. i was thinking of putting it on my daughters 64 f85 wagon with a 330 engine and a kzf 200r4 trans.. i was thinking that it may be easier to find a bracket for the tv cable on the trans using a q-jet carb over using the original 4jet carb and intake.. i am not looking for performance as much as just a good daily driver and mpg for the car.. i am open to opinions on this .....
there is a CDF 6 cast above the numbers 22504068 in front of the carb flange and a large A4 near the thermostat housing

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2olds

If is a AC car there is no hole for the power steering pump bracket.I had the same problem on putting on a 70.

joe_padavano

The A4 is a 1981-85 307 intake, and while not a performance intake, it is certainly no worse than the stock 330 intake. As noted above, the 1964-67 cars use the high-mounted PS pump, which is not compatible with this intake, however. Your better bet would be to get a 1966-67 330 intake which is a Qjet intake but works with the early brackets.

Of course, you'll want to swap the throttle shaft from a CCC Qjet to an early Qjet to make the TV cable connection easy. Use the cable bracket from a 307, which bolts to the rear two carb mounting bolts, and this is an easy installation.

2olds

The one i had was from 1980 350 delta 88 last year for a 350 that looks like the one.

69CutlassAlex

First picture is of my plane Jane Edelbrock Performer 455 after I high temp clear-coated(Bad Idea on my part) the cross over ports ended up browning, not terrible but definitely noticeable. Second picture is said intake on the engine during first engine pull. The last two pictures are of the same intake after horrible aluminum oxidation from my car facing a strong headwind all winter blowing salt from the road into the shed my car was in( I was devastated how my engine looked in the spring) caused me to do an engine pull at the end of last summer. I sandblasted it and painted it black and red.

whiskey runner

i may not have that problem.. the car originally came with a 330 2bbl with a non factory a/c.. looks like the bracket bolts to a intake to head bolt

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whiskey runner

sorry i see the bracket now.. i thought you meant the a/c bracket.. si i guess maybe i should just make a TV bracket and leave the 4jet carb.. unless i just happen to have a good q-jet on my shelf somewhere that would get better performance and mpg.

tru-blue 442

Whiskey Runner, I don't know if you can use
this one or not. came from a 67 330, w/ air. $60 + ship.
Let me know...

whiskey runner

well after checking a little more i think i will just use my stock 64 330 intake.. i have a new eldelbrock 1406 carb and a 1" spacer sitting in the shop i will put on it.. i seen some kits for putting a tv cable on that carb somewhere?. i think that would be best for what i am doing and what i already have.. i need to sell that stock A4 intake any suggestions on what a reasonable price would be for it?.. i will also need to sell my original 4jet carb it worked good, but i think it would be just too hard to get a tv cable to hook to it.

ELY442

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ELY442

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oldolds88

for my 455 going in my 65 cutlass. an old offenhauser dual q jet. no part numbers on it



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oldolds88

an other pic of it,these are not the carbs going on it,i have 2 chevy ones so the gas lines will clear. even thought about 2 dual jets,they look like q jets but would be easier on gas. just ideas. any input apreaciated.

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joe_padavano

As you probably know, the Offy intake is designed for square bore carbs. Your Qjets appear to have the crappy die cast adapter plates, which can be more of a flow restriction than anything else. Personally, I'd get a pair of 500 CFM Ebrocks with a nice progressive linkage. These would be a better match CFM wise and allow you to dump the crappy adapter plates.

Of course, I'd personally take the Edelbrock O65 dual quad intake over the Offy. The Ebrock intake is a dual plane design, which is preferable for the street, especially with 1000 CFM or more.

oldolds88

yeah theyre crappy adapters,but just using them fo mock up,need clearance for the water neck. this intake is for q jets,but it has no numbers on it. just offenhauser in the middle and on both sides.

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different

joe_padavano

OK, that's a first for me. I've never seen an aftermarket dual Qjet manifold before, only the dual square bore manifolds. Very cool and I expect quite rare.