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Old May 1st, 2020, 08:01 AM
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Looking at a 1970 Buick GS455

Hey all, No good 442's around to buy, been looking at this 70 GS455 car anyone have one?
Professional Built Orig 455 Engine, 400 trans and rear. looks like a nice car to mess with.

Orig Silver car got painted some where down the line.









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Look close at the frame below the battery, they are prone it crack in that area..
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Under the battery?
Never seen that and i have had many A bodies
like the end of the frame? by bumper bracket?
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I have owned a number of stage 1 70 models, one 71 stage 1, and 2 GSxs. Who built the engine? Just like Olds, saying they were professionally built has to be taken with a grain of salt. That appears to be same color used on 72 regional promo cars.

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Hey all, No good 442's around to buy, been looking at this 70 GS455 car anyone have one?
Professional Built Orig 455 Engine, 400 trans and rear. looks like a nice car to mess with.

Orig Silver car got painted som where down the line.




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The issue is the lip of passenger side inner fender and part of the core support sit under the battery tray. They tend to rust away at this location. There are patch panels available. I have never seen a frame cracked due to this.

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I should add that you can buy a repro inner fender and even a 71-72 style core support that will bolt up to a 70 even though it is not identical.
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The issue is the lip of passenger side of inner fender and part of the core support sit under the battery tray. They tend to rust away at this location. There are patch panels available. I have never seen a frame cracked due to this.
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Good to know thanks!!

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I should add that you can buy a repro inner fender and even a 71-72 style core support that will bolt up to a 70 even though it is not identical.
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Orig color


Real 44637 GS455

Code 14 Silver Orig color
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Originally Posted by JOHNNYOLDS442

Real 44637 GS455

Code 14 Silver Orig color
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I don't have one. But like you, if I couldn't find an appropriate 4-4-2, I would be going for the Buicks, also. (But I'd keep looking for the 4-4-2, anyway! )
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I owned a Silvermist 70 stage 1. In today's Buick world this is a very popular 70 color. Back then, most were built with shades of brown like Burnished Saddle and Dessert Gold. I owned a 70 GS455 convertible 4 speed in the former and a 70 stage one hard top in the latter color. They are not so popular today.

I have owned 70 Buicks for a long time. I am unfamiliar with that engine shop. I would say that this is not a dedicated Buick engine shop. (All dedicated Buick shops would know that a Buick dip stick handle was never painted red) This does not mean that they do not do good work. See, if you can get a copy of the engine build sheet.

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A ćouple other week-known regulars on here have or had Gran Sports. I grew up riding in a '69 GS as a kid and would love to have one in my collection someday. Good luck with your hunt.
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That's a decent car, but I would knock them down some on price. Plus, what do you want? Show car? Street Brawler?
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Are you prepared to do rust/metal repair and repaint the car?
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You would need to see this car in person to really judge the condition of the body.

On the other hand It is hard to find a 70 GS455 priced under 10k that is not a complete basket case.

Check the oil pressure at idle when the engine is warm. Check how high it reads at cruise rpms. The Buick 455 will read very low at idle once warm if the critical clearances were not observed during the rebuild. These engines are very expensive to quality rebuild given the price of Buick parts and the shortage of dedicated Buick only engine rebuilders.
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Driver, possible paint/ body some day after I see how good the Engine trans is.
Just looking for something to mess around with. Street brawler first theN the fun begins with paint etc..

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That's a decent car, but I would knock them down some on price. Plus, what do you want? Show car? Street Brawler?

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Prepared or not I know this car needs it for sure. It’s about my 100th
A body. Yea I was going to Detail Engine compartment wheel wells and such find buick wheels and a rear bumper As well as all the little things that come up. Like weather stripping heater core Fan shroud some interior parts , trunk mat, repair lights& lenses etc..


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Are you prepared to do rust/metal repair and repaint the car?

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Looks like a fun ride. It may take some time and additional cash to bring it to your specific standard, but in the end it would be a ride that I'd be proud to display in my garage. No air conditioning in Tucson....woof!
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Never really bothered me not having A C in Tucson,
I don’t drive them in that kind of heat.
I love the fact that it is AC delete!
less crap!
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Looks like a fun ride. It may take some time and additional cash to bring it to your specific standard, but in the end it would be a ride that I'd be proud to display in my garage. No air conditioning in Tucson....woof!

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Since it appears to be a 2nd week of September, 1969 build car, the paperwork can be bought directly through the A P Sloan museum in Flint.
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Is that the Buick report never bought one for Buick? Buick mags and Drag Radials here we come!

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Since it appears to be a 2nd week of September, 1969 build car, the paperwork can be bought directly through the A P Sloan museum in Flint.

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Originally Posted by JOHNNYOLDS442
Is that the Buick report never bought one for Buick? Buick mags and Drag Radials here we come!

Yeah
This is Buick factory information translated from the factory microfiche.
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In my top 5 fav muscle cars...Stump pullers!

Back in 82-83 a Bud had a 20K mile 72 V code Stage 1. Sliver black top white bucket interior...loaded AC buzz windows... grandma car he stole off an estate for 3500!. It would pull the front wheels enough to see daylight with his 270 lb azz in it. Car still exists and we know who owns it. We knew it was special even back then.

That cowl tag is mysteriously missing a 0 after the 7.

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What ever your budget is? Triple it or to be safe quadruple it .It is your money
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What ever your budget is? Triple it or to be safe quadruple it .It is your money
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Yeah it is my money and i'm no stranger to restoring a car! quadruple? maybe if i had to pay someone else to do the work which is not the case.
Thanks for the advice, just sharing not asking if it's a good deal or not.
Done this may many many times and only came upside down once because the smuck lied about a matching numbers mopar i bought. never buy anything from mopar6930 on ebay he is an evil sob in cali.
Decent deal as far as i'm concerned, these days you are not getting crap for 10k maybe a shell.
Especially something that runs and drives. Alittle paint /body few odds and ends this thing will be nicer than most cars at a cruise night.
not looking for a show piece to stare at in the garage or trailer, making what it was made for "To drive and drive hard!"
cheers!

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Originally Posted by Tri-Carb
I owned a Silvermist 70 stage 1. In today's Buick world this is a very popular 70 color. Back then, most were built with shades of brown like Burnished Saddle and Dessert Gold. I owned a 70 GS455 convertible 4 speed in the former and a 70 stage one hard top in the latter color. They are not so popular today.

I have owned 70 Buicks for a long time. I am unfamiliar with that engine shop. I would say that this is not a dedicated Buick engine shop. (All dedicated Buick shops would know that a Buick dip stick handle was never painted red) This does not mean that they do not do good work. See, if you can get a copy of the engine build sheet.
looks like a red dip stick! maybe same rebulder?

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If the car is as solid as it looks ~13K all day.

Spotless desert iron, matching drive train, in need of 5K in shiny details...a lot more.

68-72 even 73 GS have similar pricing as a 442 in similar condition, more to a diehard Buick fan(same as an Olds fan). Obviously Stage 1, stick shift, and buckets add more.
Code 14 silver is nice. Nice find. Id go for it if the $$ and condition is right. The typo on the tag isn't uncommon for the era.

Any paperwork with it?
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Originally Posted by droldsmorland
If the car is as solid as it looks ~13K all day.

Spotless desert iron, matching drive train, in need of 5K in shiny details...a lot more.

68-72 even 73 GS have similar pricing as a 442 in similar condition, more to a diehard Buick fan(same as an Olds fan). Obviously Stage 1, stick shift, and buckets add more.
Code 14 silver is nice. Nice find. Id go for it if the $$ and condition is right. The typo on the tag isn't uncommon for the era.

Any paperwork with it?
I agree on all you said. Came down to $10,500 plus shipping cost maybe $650 give or take a few $$$
not sure on paperwork yet
getting a bunch more info tomorrow then I will make my decision. Need something to play with.
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Looks like a fun project, congrats.
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Thanks!!!
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Looks like a fun project, congrats.
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Good luck. I have a high school friend in 1980 that owned a 70 GS 455 Stage I. That car had serious torque and was quite a thumper
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looks good I can take the paint off it and add a yellow stripe to my hose
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