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Old May 22nd, 2018, 12:06 AM
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Bucket Seat Swap vs Bench seat boot

Hello, I have a friend who is changing his bench seat in his 69 Cutlass S over to buckets. He has a pair of original buckets from I think a 70 Cutlass. I will be doing all the work for him and have never had to do this kind a of swap before. I believe the buckets and how they mount are all the same from 69-72 correct? . The Bucket seats are complete with frame rails etc.. What I don't know about is the mount/brackets on the floor board for the buckets vs the Bench?. Will I have to make 4 new mounts for the bucket seat bracket to bolt too? Or is it just the front inside that takes the small mount/brackets? Can I use the 2 mounts for the bench that are already there and add 2 new ones on the inside?? He also has of course the original carpet for a bench seat car. Will we have to change the carpet out? I have access to several Olds Cutlass's so can I take the floor mounts off the floor on one of those or are they welded as I presume they are to the floor? Or is it best to get the mounts through after market. Thanks in advance for any and all info.

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Old May 22nd, 2018, 04:31 AM
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The bench seat mounts are the same for bucket, need to add the inner mounts,

I have a floor shift tilt steering column if he has a need for that, let me know.

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Old May 22nd, 2018, 06:09 AM
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All 1966-72 are the same. The mounting brackets are the same as for a Chevelle. EVERYBODY sells repros. They must be welded to the floor pan. Here is a how-to article.

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Old May 22nd, 2018, 06:55 AM
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My 442 has a column shift auto and a bench seat, and someday it will be the only one that way.
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Old May 22nd, 2018, 07:27 AM
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Same for me, Koda! Someday we'll have the only TWO like that!

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Old May 22nd, 2018, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano View Post
All 1966-72 are the same. The mounting brackets are the same as for a Chevelle. EVERYBODY sells repros. They must be welded to the floor pan. Here is a how-to article.



Thank you pal that will do just fine.
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Old May 22nd, 2018, 08:30 AM
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My 442 has a column shift auto and a bench seat, and someday it will be the only one that way.
Sorry, but a bench seat with a column shift AT is a grandma car.

Now, a bench seat with a four speed is cool!
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Old May 22nd, 2018, 08:53 AM
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actually if you have a bench seat and a 4 speed she can slide over and you have the best of all worlds
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Old May 22nd, 2018, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano View Post
Sorry, but a bench seat with a column shift AT is a grandma car.

Now, a bench seat with a four speed is cool!

Floor shifted automatics are compensating poseurs and I'm not converting the car to stick. I own three column shifted automatics, one five speed standard transmission, and one 73 Ford Econoline Club Wagon with column shifted 3 speed standard transmission, and IT has bucket seats for the very good reason of there being a Ford 302 in between them.


Edit: I'm 6'4". I do not need my nooky in the back seat of my two A bodies with bench and column automatic when getting it in the front seat is JUST FINE, thank you!
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I've been toying putting an automatic floor shift with my bench seat.
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Old May 22nd, 2018, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Koda View Post
Floor shifted automatics are compensating poseurs and I'm not converting the car to stick.

The H/O has a dual gate because it has to. The two 1985s ARE grandma cars. The Vista keeps a column shifted AT because it's a wagon. The rest either already are manual trans or will become so.





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I've been toying putting an automatic floor shift with my bench seat.

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Old May 22nd, 2018, 06:20 PM
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No respect unless you have a 3 on the tree, Padavano!


Edit: My Tahoe has a column shift because that's all they had. My grandfather ordered the 72 Monte the way he wanted it, and I'm not changing.



The 67 442 has a switch pitch TH-400, which is just cool, so I want to keep it.
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Old May 22nd, 2018, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Koda View Post
No respect unless you have a 3 on the tree, Padavano!

I don't disagree. I wish I had the 65 F85 club coupe that my dad bought new from Gallo Olds in Worcester, MA. V6 and three on the tree.
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Good answer here to a question I had not asked yet.
I've been casually shopping for a cutlass for the wife. However it's occurred to me that a bench seat car may be a real problem. She's 5'0" and if she's driving that means I'll be mashed into the glove box. Converting to buckets would be a must.

So not always done for the cool factor I guess.
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Adding detailed instructions link for those of us needing to add bucket seat brackets:

http://www.buickperformanceclub.com/buckconsole.htm
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Old March 16th, 2019, 07:04 AM
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The bench seat mounts are the same for bucket, need to add the inner mounts
To replace a power bench, the outer mountings must be changed. As Johnny said, inner mounts need to be added for buckets--these are the same for power and non-power buckets.
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once you have made a car UNoriginal, you cannot UNDO that. the older i get the more appreciate that fact. that is why survivor cars are going for such big bucks, as nice as you might make a "frame off" restoration you simply cannot restore original.
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Couldn't agree more. Unfortunately, my bench is gone and I bought the car with bucket installed, but only fastened at rocker sides. I either have to add brackets or find a bench. I do like the open feeling of the buckets, especially in a convertible.
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano View Post
Sorry, but a bench seat with a column shift AT is a grandma car.

Now, a bench seat with a four speed is cool!
Yea Baby! Granny cars rule. Not only is mine staying a column shift but I'll be installing the tilt column shift I picked up a while back soon and a power bench option.

My friend that passed had a green 66' Belvedere with a column shift plaid tan interior numbers matching 426 Hemi. Now that's one heck of a church goer. He sold it to someone in Australia about 8 years ago. Guess he had that same outlook. He build a 69' GTX Hemi 4 speed, Hemi car non numbers matching and was almost done with a 68' GTX Hemi 4 speed, Hemi car non numbers matching. I should have went in the body business like him, I'd have a whole tribe of Oldsmobiles now.
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