442's everywhere
#1
442's everywhere
I was trying to purchase a commercial building and was contemplating selling my car to help raise funds. I will be keeping my car but trying to come up with the market value of my car I searched the internet for cars that were in similar condition that have sold or were for sale. I mostly found 442's, some real, some fake(represented as real), some clones and some I couldn't tell. Are the fakes and clones really worth that much more just because of the badges and are there so many because the model year is less desirable then 70's.
#2
I've seen a lot of people post asking prices for their clones that could buy an honest 442. I would like to say that it doesn't fluctuate the price to clone a Cutlass to a 442 but its really just all up to if the buy really likes the car. If a buyer loves it, they will pay it.
I've developed a little tool that compiles asking prices for different Oldsmobiles I've seen in the past two years. You can try it out with different makes and models and it may give you an idea of what others have been asking too.
http://www.oldsmobilecentral.com/tools/price.php
I've developed a little tool that compiles asking prices for different Oldsmobiles I've seen in the past two years. You can try it out with different makes and models and it may give you an idea of what others have been asking too.
http://www.oldsmobilecentral.com/tools/price.php
#3
A car is worth only what someone will pay for it. When you deceive, you get 442 money for the Cutlass. 67 is the year I pay attention to more than others, and I would say a restored W-30 is worth about 60, a 442 is worth 20 or so, a Turnpike Cruiser about 17, a Cutlass Supreme about 15, with a normal Cutlass being close, and an F-85 being about 12. Add 33% for 4 speed or convertible, and add 50% for both. I don't think there were 67 w-30 convertibles.*
A true clone that is being faked will grab the money of the real ones. If you got a good shape Cutlass Supreme and dropped a 442 powertrain into it and restored it, you could realize almost 50% more on sale price if you successfully dupe someone. Most fakers screw up and can be caught easily. Of course, then they will say they just liked the look of the badges, they "built it for themselves" or some other horseshit.
To me, wrong parts that have no legit reason for being on the car lower the value, not raise it. If you added 442 badges, then that lowers the value. If you added factory duals, sure, that's fine.
But, to answer your question, a clone is worth no more than what it was originally, plus the value of the parts you added, which should be nowhere near the price of what a real one would command.
If you were to put up some pictures and a description, we could advise you on what to ask and what to take.
*=The above are rough values and intended as an example.
A true clone that is being faked will grab the money of the real ones. If you got a good shape Cutlass Supreme and dropped a 442 powertrain into it and restored it, you could realize almost 50% more on sale price if you successfully dupe someone. Most fakers screw up and can be caught easily. Of course, then they will say they just liked the look of the badges, they "built it for themselves" or some other horseshit.
To me, wrong parts that have no legit reason for being on the car lower the value, not raise it. If you added 442 badges, then that lowers the value. If you added factory duals, sure, that's fine.
But, to answer your question, a clone is worth no more than what it was originally, plus the value of the parts you added, which should be nowhere near the price of what a real one would command.
If you were to put up some pictures and a description, we could advise you on what to ask and what to take.
*=The above are rough values and intended as an example.
Last edited by Koda; January 14th, 2015 at 11:52 AM.
#4
The building had more problems then were disclosed, so happy to be keeping my car. I had purchased my car on impulse, so I never really looked what other 67's were out there. Now that I have, I was just very surprised to mostly find "442's". Based on what I saw I figure my car would sell for somewhere between 8,500 and 11,000. It has no rust and interior is excellent minus a split in the dash pad which I plan to replace.
#5
I would think that the value you placed on it is close. However, buyers are very finicky on what they will spend their money on. In all cases, all that is needed in a car sale is for 1 person to fall in love.
#6
Yes...but it's even nicer if there are two. Then the bidding war ensues.
#7
Or you could send it over here and as a minimum double your money!
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...-2936377/?Cr=3
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...-2936377/?Cr=3
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