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Old May 12th, 2019, 08:54 PM
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1970 W30 Convertible Seen on Ebay and Mike's Corvette's

There has been a 1970 W30 non air conditioned convertible that had been advertised for sale on Ebay and Corvette Mike's, Anaheim, California for $149,900.00 that isn't selling. The car is twilightblue with a white convertible top and white interior. The car is equipped with a turbo hydromatic 400 transmission, matching numbers, broadcast card, protect-o-plate, original warranty and other paperwork. The cars underside is nicely detailed and includes a "Rocket Report" from Steven Minore. The car is beautiful! Has anyone seen or know this cars history? Why isn't this beautiful W30 selling?.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-442-W-30-/382950426673?nav=SEARCH

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This is probably one reason...whomever did the restoration, doesn't know Oldsmobiles.


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Old May 13th, 2019, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by svnt442 View Post
This is probably one reason...whomever did the restoration, doesn't know Oldsmobiles.


But... but.. ALL the ones on the interwebs look like that!
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Old May 13th, 2019, 07:52 AM
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This is probably one reason...whomever did the restoration, doesn't know Oldsmobiles.

Are you referring to the valve covers or the power brake booster?

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Old May 13th, 2019, 08:07 AM
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Has anyone near Anaheim seen or drove this car?
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Old May 13th, 2019, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by twilightblue28A View Post
Are you referring to the valve covers or the power brake booster?
It's an AT car. Power brakes were an available option with AT for 1970. That's not an issue. Why people can't get the valve covers correct remains a mystery, but it obviously begs the question of what else was done wrong. Clearly whoever put this car together didn't know Oldsmobiles.
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OK, I just scrolled through all the photos in the Ebay ad. What's wrong with this picture?

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Old May 13th, 2019, 08:37 AM
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OK, I just scrolled through all the photos in the Ebay ad. What's wrong with this picture?

I agree that the valve covers are installed backwards. I am aware that automatic transmission cars had power brakes. I see that the power brake booster looks changed. Regarding the broadcast card, the car is a 34467 car, 28A, twilightblue, built in Lansing (legible on the Protect-O-Plate. The broadcast card is hard to read. Did I pass or fail so far? The valve covers installed backward is not a concern to me.

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Originally Posted by twilightblue28A View Post
I agree that the valve covers are installed backwards. I am aware that automatic transmission cars had power brakes. I see that the power brake booster looks changed. Regarding the broadcast card, the car is a 34467 car, 28A, twilightblue, built in Lansing (legible on the Protect-O-Plate. The broadcast card is hard to read. Did I pass or fail so far? The valve covers installed backward is not a concern to me.
For $150K, the car had better be near perfect. If whoever restored that car doesn't know how the valve covers go, what else did they screw up. Obviously there are a lot of new parts, which always begs the question, what was added during the resto.

Of course, my point on the broadcast card is the glaring omission of this:


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Originally Posted by joe_padavano View Post
OK, I just scrolled through all the photos in the Ebay ad. What's wrong with this picture?


Noooo "W30" to be seen anywhere on the card.... And isn't the body number supposed to match the Protect o Plate?

And I agree - for $150k you should have the heat riser tube under the air cleaner and the correct seals on the radiator gaps, and I'm sure the eagle eyes here can find 50 other things that I'm not seeing. And I'm far from an expert.

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Well,it does have the 'Rocket Report' from an expert.
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Old May 13th, 2019, 09:18 AM
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I haven't seen one '70 convertible automatic, built in '69 have W30 on the broadcast card. If anyone has one, please post the card. To be clear, I'm referring to a '70 automatic convertible built in '69.The car has an OW transmission and the numbers on the transmission match the Vin derivative on the engine which ties into the cars VIN. This makes the car a W30. You can view the numbers in Steve Minore's "Rocket Report."
I welcome your comments. I was hoping that a member knows the car or has seen or driven the car, currently in Anaheim.
I'm concerned that the car hasn't sold.
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano View Post
For $150K, the car had better be near perfect. If whoever restored that car doesn't know how the valve covers go, what else did they screw up. Obviously there are a lot of new parts, which always begs the question, what was added during the resto.

Of course, my point on the broadcast card is the glaring omission of this:

I believe we've seen a few examples of legit '70 W-30 convertibles with early 1969 build that do not have W-30 on the broadcast card. The OW matching trans would be enough for me. Now, for that kind of money, I'd want a detailed history of the car if it were available.
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Old May 13th, 2019, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by WTHIRTY1 View Post
I believe we've seen a few examples of legit '70 W-30 convertibles with early 1969 build that do not have W-30 on the broadcast card. The OW matching trans would be enough for me. Now, for that kind of money, I'd want a detailed history of the car if it were available.
The problem with relying on the OW trans is this.



Obviously one can inspect the trans and get a reasonable feeling as to whether it was born with that tag or not, but we don't have those photos to assess. As pointed out, there are a lot of little problems that call into question the quality of the resto for $150K. I agree that a history of the car would go a long way here.
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano View Post
The problem with relying on the OW trans is this.



Obviously one can inspect the trans and get a reasonable feeling as to whether it was born with that tag or not, but we don't have those photos to assess. As pointed out, there are a lot of little problems that call into question the quality of the resto for $150K. I agree that a history of the car would go a long way here.
If you review the photographs in Steven Minore's "Rocket Report" , the OW tag is not a fresh decal. The OW tag looks aged as does the rivet.
I was hoping that someone near Anaheim has seen or has driven the car.
I have seen a lot of the fraudulent information including window stickers. Currently, on Ebay, there is a 1970 442 twilightblue convertible, painted twilightblue with a window sticker identifying the factory paint color twilightblue, but the paint code on the cowl tag is Azure blue.
I am aware of frauds, but the Anaheim car looks real.
I understand we must be skeptical, but this car looks right.

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Originally Posted by joe_padavano View Post
Why people can't get the valve covers correct remains a mystery, but it obviously begs the question of what else was done wrong..
Also begs the question, if they are notched for clearance, how come they fit so easily when they are backwards?
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Also begs the question, if they are notched for clearance, how come they fit so easily when they are backwards?
The notches aren't for static clearance. They are intended to make it easier to remove the valve covers with the engine in the car. Also this car doesn't have the A/C box, so the passenger side is a non-issue.

Per your logic, why don't full size cars with the same accessory brackets need notches on the front of THEIR valve covers?
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