Gear change affected my speedometer
#4
I need to do this too, so I got a question too.
This site here shows the formula for picking the proper trans gear for the speedo.
http://novaresource.org/speedo.htm
Gear ratio x 20.2 divided by tire height = Gear size
So 3.73 x 20.2 = 75.346 / 27" = 2.79
Small Speedometer Gear (3/4" diameter) = 22 (closest to 2.79)
Large Speedometer Gear (1-1/2" diameter) = 39 (exactly 2.79)
So I'm not sure which I need??? Is it the grey gear #22 (small) or brown gear #39 (large)??
http://www.tciauto.com/Products/Tech...eedo_gears.asp
I have no idea what this means.....
This site here shows the formula for picking the proper trans gear for the speedo.
http://novaresource.org/speedo.htm
Gear ratio x 20.2 divided by tire height = Gear size
So 3.73 x 20.2 = 75.346 / 27" = 2.79
Small Speedometer Gear (3/4" diameter) = 22 (closest to 2.79)
Large Speedometer Gear (1-1/2" diameter) = 39 (exactly 2.79)
So I'm not sure which I need??? Is it the grey gear #22 (small) or brown gear #39 (large)??
http://www.tciauto.com/Products/Tech...eedo_gears.asp
I have no idea what this means.....
Buick, Oldsmobile & Pontiac transmissions use a 2.078" diameter driven gear housing. Two housings, each made from either aluminum or plastic, are available for driven gears with 34 or more teeth. One fits gears from 34 - 39 teeth and the second one fits gears from 40 - 45 teeth.
Last edited by Aceshigh; October 12th, 2010 at 04:21 PM.
#5
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I had a cop clock me w/radar as the speedo said 60 - he said 66 which was 10% slow on the speedo!
Pulled the small [driven] gear, counted teeth, [20 I think] went to the dealer and got an 18 tooth, installed it, and was right on!!
4-speed w/a 3:08 I think!!
Pulled the small [driven] gear, counted teeth, [20 I think] went to the dealer and got an 18 tooth, installed it, and was right on!!
4-speed w/a 3:08 I think!!
#8
Using this pic for reference.
The Drive gear is the internal green gear correct??
The Driven gear is the white side gear I can remove correct ??
So are you saying I have to pick BOTH a Drive gear AND a Driven gear to get my speedo to function correctly or can I just buy a Driven gear ??
I have no idea how I'd change the Drive gear if I had to.
Last edited by Aceshigh; October 12th, 2010 at 06:12 PM.
#9
No problem.
Correct
Correct
Only if the drive gear you have is the one you need.
Pull the drive shaft. Pull the four bolts on the transmission tail shaft. That silver clip on the drive gear is what secures it to the tail shaft. Those clips are know to break.
The bolt in the pic next to where the speedo hooks up holds down a clamp. When you remove the bolt and clamp you can pull the driven gear housing and the driven gear. There are two types of housing to choose from and the one you need is based on which driven gear you have. I dont have sample of both otherwise id take a pic and show you.
Hope this helps.
Correct
Only if the drive gear you have is the one you need.
Pull the drive shaft. Pull the four bolts on the transmission tail shaft. That silver clip on the drive gear is what secures it to the tail shaft. Those clips are know to break.
The bolt in the pic next to where the speedo hooks up holds down a clamp. When you remove the bolt and clamp you can pull the driven gear housing and the driven gear. There are two types of housing to choose from and the one you need is based on which driven gear you have. I dont have sample of both otherwise id take a pic and show you.
Hope this helps.
#10
THanks,
Okay so now I need to determine what the stock tire size was for a 1970 Olds Cutlass.
I have 14" OS III rims and SVNT442 says they were 225/70/14's.
I already know my gears were 2.78 from the factory.
So if I use this Bowtie Overdrives calculator to see what my drive gear is
It says my Drive gear is a 13 tooth, and my driven gear is a 28 tooth most likely.
Final # is 2.1538462
So with 3.73's and a 285/40/18 rear tire using the Bowtie Overdrives calculator
I will need a 10 tooth Drive gear, and 28 tooth Driven gear.
SO naturally......I have to take off the trans tail housing to swap the driven gear. Figures......
Speedometergearchart22.jpg
Okay so now I need to determine what the stock tire size was for a 1970 Olds Cutlass.
I have 14" OS III rims and SVNT442 says they were 225/70/14's.
I already know my gears were 2.78 from the factory.
So if I use this Bowtie Overdrives calculator to see what my drive gear is
It says my Drive gear is a 13 tooth, and my driven gear is a 28 tooth most likely.
Final # is 2.1538462
So with 3.73's and a 285/40/18 rear tire using the Bowtie Overdrives calculator
I will need a 10 tooth Drive gear, and 28 tooth Driven gear.
SO naturally......I have to take off the trans tail housing to swap the driven gear. Figures......
Speedometergearchart22.jpg
Last edited by Aceshigh; October 12th, 2010 at 08:16 PM.
#14
OK then thats easy enough to figure out.
What gear did you have in the rear? What new gear do you have in the rear? What plastic gear is in the tail housing? What color is the gear?
Take it out of the housing and count the teeth. Then I can look up what the other gear is inside the tranny and figure out which little tranny gear you need. Keep in mind you'll lose a bit of tranny fluid doing this
What gear did you have in the rear? What new gear do you have in the rear? What plastic gear is in the tail housing? What color is the gear?
Take it out of the housing and count the teeth. Then I can look up what the other gear is inside the tranny and figure out which little tranny gear you need. Keep in mind you'll lose a bit of tranny fluid doing this
#15
If you go the route of trying to figure out exactly which drive and driven gear you need based on tire size, etc, you will go through a lot of hassle and probably get it wrong the first time and have to try again.
If, on the other hand, you go the route of adding an "adapter" (gear reducer) between transmission and speedo cable, you will get it right the first time. Just measure what percentage slow or fast your odometer is (use mile markers over 10 or 20 miles on the highway) and get a reducer which corrects that percentage. Done.
If, on the other hand, you go the route of adding an "adapter" (gear reducer) between transmission and speedo cable, you will get it right the first time. Just measure what percentage slow or fast your odometer is (use mile markers over 10 or 20 miles on the highway) and get a reducer which corrects that percentage. Done.
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