Motor Mount Issues (Seeking Experienced Advice)
#1
Motor Mount Issues (Seeking Experienced Advice)
We are working on my brothers 68 Cutlass. I have decoded everything and it is an original 1968 V-8 350 Cutlass S. The motor is a 395558 block with #5 heads. We took the motor out to clean up the chassis and paint it, and to clean the motor and trans up. When going to reinstall the motor, we noticed one of the motor mounts was broken (Plastic/Rubber) was separated. So no problem, go to get two new motor mounts, and a new trans mount. Napa sells us their mounts, which are Anchor Part# 2261 which is the same part that Autozone sells, and is the same part# that cross-references with the part# on the old mount. Well we get to putting this motor back in, and we get one side in with the bolt, and then let the motor down a little more to get the other side on, and were about 3/4" off from the holes lineing up? we shook and moved the trans, jacked the trans up and down, moved the hoist over, up and down and it wasn't gonna budge. So I figure somehow we got the wrong parts. So we took them back off, take them to NAPA and we looked at pictures, the Anchor catalog, and everything shows these to be the right part number. I get my Year One catalog out the truck, and pretty much their were only two part numbers of motor mounts, one for small blocks, and one for big blocks.
I read on another website about measurements for small block frame pads, and big block frame pads, so we pick the motor back up and measure the frame pads, and sure nuff, they are the small block frame pads......
We were finally able to get the block mounted, but not before we had to put some washers behind one of the mounts to move it out about 1/2" and then rock the motor like crazy, we were finally able to finagle the bolt through. This took us quite a while to do, I couldn't believe that it was so difficult to bolt two motor mounts onto the block and slide it into position. And this was with the whole front clip off the car. I just can't see how it was so difficult. I must be missing something here. I am seeking advice of the experienced Oldsmobile crew here.......I have never had this much difficulty stabbing a motor in a car. Please help me if I am missing something.
Thanks
Adolph
I read on another website about measurements for small block frame pads, and big block frame pads, so we pick the motor back up and measure the frame pads, and sure nuff, they are the small block frame pads......
We were finally able to get the block mounted, but not before we had to put some washers behind one of the mounts to move it out about 1/2" and then rock the motor like crazy, we were finally able to finagle the bolt through. This took us quite a while to do, I couldn't believe that it was so difficult to bolt two motor mounts onto the block and slide it into position. And this was with the whole front clip off the car. I just can't see how it was so difficult. I must be missing something here. I am seeking advice of the experienced Oldsmobile crew here.......I have never had this much difficulty stabbing a motor in a car. Please help me if I am missing something.
Thanks
Adolph
Last edited by adpostel; April 26th, 2010 at 02:49 PM.
#2
the parts books are wrong. Joe may be able to chime in here as he knows what part number is the right one. I have the list but it is at work now. the problem is that they were in a change over from the old style to the new ones with the inter lock feature.
#3
Actually, 2261 SHOULD be the correct replacement for that application. Unfortunately, these mounts are Chinesium and I've personally had quality control problems with them. In one case, the holes for the bolts that go to the block were drilled in the wrong place and the second bolt wouldn't go in.
One trick is to leave the motor mount to block bolts loose until you get the cross bolts in place, then tighten everything up.
One trick is to leave the motor mount to block bolts loose until you get the cross bolts in place, then tighten everything up.
#4
Joe, the list I have of part numbers is something I think you put together on another site. I have had to use it before on cars as they kept insisting that I was giving them the wrong info. do you have any ideas of which brand fits the best?
#10
Those mounts were always tough to get in the hole, even when putting the same engine and mounts back in, and yes, even with factory parts all around.
I had a long tire spoon that was very valuable for that purpose. Just put a slight amount of weight on the bolt, make sure not to hit the threads on the end, and knock that sucker in. On the rare occasion, I would loosen the bots holding the mount to the block for a little more flexibility.
Sounds crude, but working on a flat rate, you learn that quick makes money. . .
DW
I had a long tire spoon that was very valuable for that purpose. Just put a slight amount of weight on the bolt, make sure not to hit the threads on the end, and knock that sucker in. On the rare occasion, I would loosen the bots holding the mount to the block for a little more flexibility.
Sounds crude, but working on a flat rate, you learn that quick makes money. . .
DW
#11
Those mounts were always tough to get in the hole, even when putting the same engine and mounts back in, and yes, even with factory parts all around.
I had a long tire spoon that was very valuable for that purpose. Just put a slight amount of weight on the bolt, make sure not to hit the threads on the end, and knock that sucker in. On the rare occasion, I would loosen the bots holding the mount to the block for a little more flexibility.
Sounds crude, but working on a flat rate, you learn that quick makes money. . .
DW
I had a long tire spoon that was very valuable for that purpose. Just put a slight amount of weight on the bolt, make sure not to hit the threads on the end, and knock that sucker in. On the rare occasion, I would loosen the bots holding the mount to the block for a little more flexibility.
Sounds crude, but working on a flat rate, you learn that quick makes money. . .
DW
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