scrappie

What do you guys think about bushings for a 1970 442 restoration? I see Harris is the OEM, MOOG is a trusted replacement over the years and then there are polyurethane. Some Harris out there for sale. Are polyurethane bushings that much better than rubber replacements? I have heard there may be a difference in ride with soft rubber and stiff poly but never experienced it. I want to do a mostly stock restoration but will upgrade in certain areas that are not too noticeable.

11971four4two

I only used NOS new GM bushings and very few used GM originals
The kicks just get harder to find

joe_padavano

Anything that reduces unwanted deflections in the suspension will sharpen handling. Unfortunately, this is always a trade-off. The factory rubber bushings were selected to balance handling with comfort. Poly bushings improve handling at the expense of ride harshness. Your call as to what your priorities are. Keep in mind that poly bushings will squeak and require periodic greasing with silicone grease. Also, if you are considering poly for the rear suspension, you cannot use poly in all eight locations. The upper control arms must twist slightly under normal suspension deflections. The stock rubber is compliant enough to allow this. Poly bushings are not. At a minimum, use rubber in the front two rear upper control arm bushings. A better choice is to use the metal ball joint bushings in those two locations. I'll also point out that the factory used bushings with different rubber durometer (hardness) depending on the car and suspension package. Replacement rubber bushings today are one-size-fits-all and are likely tuned towards the soft ride side. I use Moog parts exclusively.

boese1978

I put poly bushings all around, there is no harsh ride at all, I would bet money people would not be able to tell any difference at all- until you corner and the car hugs and stays tight, there has not been one squeak from suspension that I have heard, I greased them at install 4 years ago. The car handles great, like night and day from the old worn rubber bushings. Seems silly to use one of each type, ask around, I bet there is not a single other install like that.

scrappie

OK thx gents!

My442

I would only use poly bushings on the shock eyes and the front sway bar.

New MOOG rubber bushings with a set of Bilstein shocks will give good a good ride and handling.

I have done the poly stuff, and unless you live where the roads are perfectly smooth, you won't like them.

Fun71

Don't forget a set of good springs.

oldsmoboogie

Asger

I can't recommend anyone doing this, when you process raw rubber and vulcanize it into a bushing or any rubber product for that matter, ozone deterioration starts immediately breaking down the bonds, albeit a slower process and depending on different factors, they all break down regardless. Giving the product a finite shelf life, installing a bushing that was made 10-20 years ago is tantamount to sadomasochism

I should know since this is my job

joe_padavano

What? S&M?

(Sorry, but that was tooooo easy. )

Asger

I get paid for the S&M stuff, making rubber to metal parts is the side-gig i do for fun