BIGJERR

My aunt& uncle have had the good fortune to be able to retire young and enjoy life to its fullest by traveling the USA in one of those rather large motorhomes you see on the highways and byways.......They found a deal to good to pass up in Tampa Fl and were switching from the old motorcoach into the new one and this story is what happens next.......Enjoy I did...

This is a true story.......no names have been changed to protect the
> guilty and or stupid....it happened last night around 8 pm.
>
> For the past 2 weeks we have been parked in Lazy Days RV Dealership
> transfer park and at various times have had access to the new motor home
> when it wasn't being worked on etc to move things into the new one,The old camper was parked nose to ***
> with the new one and we could walk out of one go few steps and into another, so
> you get the picture. Our Car was parked there as well perpendicular with the
> campers. 2 nights ago Mikes Gary Fisher bike was stolen from between our
> campers. Lazy Days offered to basically buy us a new one so we went that
> afternoon and got him something to ride but it was not nearly as nice as the one
> we lost. Yesterday we finally got the green light, everything is good to go
> on the New camper and we could finish transferring our stuff which we
> continued to do after dark. So......just after dark I took (The dog)Gracie potty
> and noticed a traded in camper down 2 spots with its door wide open. Our service
> rep was riding by in a golf cart and I flagged him down to tell him as
> it was a trade waiting to be moved from the transfer lot. Danny
> went in, looked around and locked the camper. Around 8 o'clock Mike was
> on one of his trips to the old motor home and he came back and cracked the door on
> our new camper and said "call 911 NOW" I dialed then looked out and Mike had
> this big black dude face down on the ground and was pointing his 38 at
> his head telling him to shut up! Mike caught him going in our old camper . So this stupid dude is
> babbling some crap about his uncle somebody "wan me to come fo some mo ribs" and
> Mike is waving this gun at him telling him to shut up. Well then purely
> by accident Lazy Days security comes by and Mike waves them down and
> believe it or not they just stood there with hands in the air unable to grasp the
> situation. The security here is a joke and the teeth to tattoo ratio is
> way off. actually only one of the 4 guards even had teeth. Anyway after about
> 10 minutes 4 squad cars arrive and Mike had taken over talking to 911. I started to interrogate the suspect. "how'd you get in here?"
"hey, man I
> wrod my bike." "Wheres your bike?"
"Tell that crazy dude to ge da gun offa
> me." "Where's the bike you rode in here?I asked?"
"behin da fez....its a blue Huffy."
The Police recovered Mikes Gary Fisher but no Huffy just over the fence on the sidewalk.
Oh and that motor home with the door open earlier in the evening ? door was open again and we have surmised
> that Danny locked it with dumb dude inside the bathroom where he hid
> when he saw us coming!
> So this stupid black dude came back to the same spot he stole the bike from,
> ON THE BIKE, and gets caught going into the same camper by a guy(Mike) with a
> 38 revolver. Did I mention that Mike never took the gun out of the
> holster, but Dumb *** didn't know that in the dark. All he saw was da
> barrel and all we saw was white teefs. What's the odds of getting that
> bike back???
>
> And the moral of the story is??? I love my guns. I dislike Tampa
> enormously.
>
> love,mj

citcapp

great story, it took some ***** to get that guy. Who says guns don't stop crime

MDchanic

I like when there's a happy ending.

... And dumb criminals are no surprise... If they were smart, they'd be working in banking or insurance.

- Eric

Ranzan

hahahahahahaha awesome

redoldsman

Without the gun, there would have been a totally different outcome and your Aunt and Uncle's retirement would probably be over. Damn good outcome.

z11375ss

Guns are the answer to unsecure situaions. They make everyone more polite.

BIGJERR

BTW I dont mean to offend any with this story......Race, creed or city or state.........It is what it is funny,Sad all in one...........If you knew my Aunt and Uncle it would be even funnier!..........Hope ya liked it!

Wyze

Smh!!

BIGJERR

Scratching my head?

Wyze did you see your car on the honorble mention page of the calendar?

Lady72nRob71

Sounds like a dallas news story to me. Guns should belong with every responsible homeowner around here. My neighbor had over 15 firearms and 1k of ammo, so if we break into riot over here, i will bunker out at his house....

In all, glad it all worked out and noone got hurt.
There is never an excuse for robbery or breaking an entry. Getting shot is just the hazard of the 'job'. Crime may pay but loosing your life? - no.


Jerr - smh is shaking my head - just had to look it up. You were close with scratching....

MDchanic

No offense here. You were just passing on a story as your aunt told it to you, and it was told in her words, as she saw and felt it.
If I had been telling it, I would have chosen a few of the words differently, but I'm not and she is, and it wouldn't be her story if it wasn't in her words.
As it stands, it does make you feel like you're right there, and that's what a story is supposed to do.

Nothing wrong with telling a story as you experienced it.

- Eric

Wyze

No I didn't, but I did see alot of your stuff on YouTube!!!! Lol!!!

All Olds go to Heaven, the junkyard vid made me wanna cry!!!! Hahaha!!!

SMH, shaking my head!!!!
I hate theives!!!!!

But like someone said, the choice of word!!!! Boy oh boy, no Black person would find them funny!!! IMO!!!!!

Wyze

By the way, that calender looks great!!! Thanks for the feature!!!
I am truely honored!!!! 2 thumbs up!!!!
Hopefully I'll be looking good enough to get a page next year!!! Lol!!!


Thanks Drew!!!

PS

Oh, no offense taken!!!
I've just heard the whites of their eyes & teeth for years!!!!!!!!
And believe me, it's not a nice thing to say!!!! Lmao!!!!

Aron Nance

Truly a funny, sad story. Not too much smarts on the bicycle thief's part, and thank God your uncle had the pistol. Pretty sure here in Texas since they enacted the "right to carry" law, that crime has gone down: the crooks don't know who is/isn't carrying! Great! Have 'em in my house, ready to use (and put away securely) ready to be used if anyone messes with my "stuff"!!!!!!

bil

I had to install a hole security system.I test it once in a while,crime in the neighborhood has gone way down! ---bil

BIGJERR

LOL I looked at the picture and my granddaughter yelled SPONGE BOB!!!!!!!!!

I thought about editing the story some but its just like she sent it......Its a rough world out there,Rougher for some for sure.........Glad it didnt offend to much......Jerr


Heres the honorable mention page...

http://www.petersenracing.org/bigjerr/Calendars.html

Wyze

Yeah I just sent it to my buddy Olds Thunder!!! (some might know him from ROP)
I wish I could post his comment about what I had to do to get on there!!! Lmao!!!
He must know of you Jer cause I never said you name but he did!!! Lol!!!


Thanks again!!!
It's amazing how something like that can make you feel!!!!!

Drew

Col Wickham

Gee Rob,...If my neighbour had 15 guns and 1000 rounds of ammo I'd be selling up and moving out of range. That ain't normal, not down here anyway. He has a bad day at the office and all hell could break loose.
I hate guns. Imagine the parents of the 9 year old girl in Tucson do too.
We tend to chuck eggs at our politicians because we have tight gun laws.
Different in the States I guess. Y'all love 'em. Me...I liked John Lennon.

Lady72nRob71

If he had a bad attitude or i never knew him, I would feel the same.

I hated guns until I met him. He has to be the most responsible gun owner I have known and he taught me a lot and encouraged me to get my own arms for my own safety.

He is also a very responsible hunter. Only shoots to kill just the right animal for food they can cook (and share with us)!
And being a sportsman, he has to have a gun for each critter, just like a woman with shoes for each outfit.
Basic deer rifle (30-06), advanced deer riflr, pig rifle (AK15 ), dove gun, weasel gun, long-range weasel gun , little people gun (22 pistol), big people gun (44 pistol), bb gun (Daisy), etc, etc. He also has some just to have - vintage, police issue retirees, etc.
They are all locked up in a huge vault so the crooks can't get to them.

I trust him because I know his easy goingness. A bad day at work is the norm for him. He supervises a fence building operation. It pays well, but bad is part of the job. Driving 20k miles a year in dallas traffic, BS from crew members (drunk after weekend, got to the job and forgot their tools, etc.)
After a bad day we will at worst get some beers and shoot targets in the back yard with a bb gun. Of course sometimes he pings his wife's yard art now and then...

MDchanic

Heck, I've got somewhere between 10 and 15 guns (who's counting?), and may have over 1,000 rounds - lots of folks do. Anyone who goes out shooting has probably got over 1,000 rounds here and there. The more you buy, the cheaper it is, and if you load your own, the sky's the limit. If you've got a little kid, you've almost definitely got over 1,000, because if you go out shooting a .22, the best way to buy those is in boxes of 1,000, and you tend to grab 'em up while they're on sale.

As far as my neighbors, well they may have a lot of guns or none at all. None of my business, I reckon. Most folks around here do have guns, though, and I'm in the Liberal Northeast, mind you.

I won't bring any recent incidents into this, out of respect for those involved, but I will say that it was a schizophrenic who killed John Lennon, just as it was schizophrenics who tried to kill Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan, and it's schizophrenics who regularly push people in front of subway trains in New York, and who (a couple of times in recent years) have drowned or stabbed their small children in the Midwest. The killer in the recent sad incident in Arizona was also schizophrenic. The true sin here is the utter inadequacy of the mental health care "system" here in the US, and the lack of education of the ordinary person as to what a person who needs help looks like. Time will tell us whether this person was ever referred for care, and whether he got any, or just never followed up.

I am a firm believer in the wisdom of affirming the right of the people in general to be armed, and believe that most US "car guys" have at least a few guns tucked away (I'd love to see a site survey on the subject, but I'm afraid it might be considered too political). I won't quote any gun-rights claptrap, though I deeply believe most of it is true, but I will say that I've lived in Europe and really enjoyed it there, but I don't think I could ever live in a country where regular people couldn't own and use guns.

- Eric

cutlassjoe

Ouch! That hurts. I happen to work for an insurance agency owned by a bank....

MDchanic

Not that EVERYBODY who works for those is a criminal, just that a number of high-ticket crimes have been committed by very smart, high-ranking executives in these businesses over the past 25 years at least, and all walked away without charges and with the money.

- Eric

Col Wickham

........and I work for a bank owned by an insurance company

MDchanic

Col Wickham

You're caught between two possible international white collar criminals here MDchanic and you can't shoot or your way out of this one pal.

MDchanic

Oy vey.

Aceshigh

Good story. Rare happy ending.

Kennesaw Georgia actually has a law that states every resident must have a weapon in their home.
Crime plummeted 90% once the law went into effect. An armed society is a polite society.
Obviously this precludes nutjobs or felons.

It's amazing how we ever made it through the past 200 years without going postal then eh ?? LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR9RN_iSKtg

Here's your stats after your Aussie gun bans.
http://www.gunsandcrime.org/auresult.html

Agreed. Much longer then 25 years though.....since 1913.
The inception of the Central Bank.....aka The Federal Reserve.
Jefferson worked to ensure a central bank was never established for a reason. Too late now tho.....

The central bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the Principles and form of our Constitution. I am an Enemy to all banks discounting bills or notes for anything but Coin. If the American People allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the People of all their Property until their Children will wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.
-- Thomas Jefferson

Col Wickham

Thanks for those stats. They confirm that a straight line increase in firearm murder in Australia from 94-97 turned down after the gun buy-back and has stayed below that level ever since.
That said I agree these buy back schemes don't really work. Only the good guys surrender their weapons.
...and as far as Criminals in the finance sector goes, yep you got them alright. You should have shot them before they sparked the Global Financial Crisis.

Aceshigh

Huh ??

Violent crime 'out of control'
The State Opposition leader, Isobel Redmond, says violent crime is out of control in South Australia.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...30/2641300.htm

Here's more for you to review.

In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847

Col Wickham

Thanks once again. The big picture graph I referred to is the last one in your attachment. Also, quoting the South Australian opposition leader (whoever she is) is probably not representative of the rest of Australia. It has a population of 1.5mil which means any increase in crime per capita would cause a bigger blip on the radar than the more populous States. Anyhow, you like guns, I don't. I can find a $hit load of stuff on the net to show why guns aren't necessarily that great, just like you can find a stack stuff which says they're cool. I respect that. Just like I respect friends of mine who are shooters. These guys know guns, they look after them, they secure them properly and they use them for hunting, maybe putting down injured stock, culling roos or killing foxes. We live in the country and most of my neighbours have guns. So OK that a guy a few houses away's 14 year old son managed to "unsecure" his shotgun and blow his mates head off in 2008. Community is still reeling from that one. Accidents happen....and there are some serious stats on just how many of them involve guns which I won't trouble you with. I just get a little nervous when people who don't have a legitimate use for a deadly weapon are able to walk around the street with one.....legally.

MDchanic

Here's the point of digression:
Most over here believe that "legitimate use" = any use that is not overtly criminal, with no further explanation required, any more than one would need to "legitimize" the purchase or possession of a hammer or a carving knife, whilst many in other countries (and on our left) believe that one should not have a gun without some specific, defined reason, such as target shooting or hunting (and often explicitly refuse to recognize defense as "legitimate").

We see the possession and use of arms as an elemental right, such as the right to vote or to speak freely, not as a privilege to be regulated, and as such it does not need to be "legitimized" any more than one would need to explain why he is walking into the voting booth.

It is a genuinely philosophical discussion, far more than one of statistics.

- Eric

Col Wickham

..and I anticipated that the right to defend oneself would be a legitimate reason to carry a firearm in the US for those who feel vulnerable. And as a matter of interest, here you have to explain if you don't walk into a poling booth. Voting is compulsory.
So, and I'm not being a smart-*** here, is it legal in some States over there to carry a knife in public? Also, how young (or old) does a person have to be in order to have the right to defend them self with a gun? We know there are 12 year olds holding up gas stations etc with guns, and holding up other 12 year olds for their mobile phones, money etc. Does that 12 year old victim have the right to carry a gun to defend him/her self against other 12 year olds? Where is the line drawn?
BTW,..it is illegal to carry a knife, a baton or any other weapon in Australia unless you have a "legitimate" reason and "in case I need to defend myself" isn't a legitimate reason here. $1,000 fine.

Aceshigh

Fair Enough,

But I'd like to just say, it's not simply that "I Like guns".
I like my inaliable right to self defense of my life, property, and family without relying on a phone to call 911 for help......assuming I even get that opportunity to dial it.

no_gun_control.jpg

Col Wickham

Like I said in my previous post, I anticipated that the right to defend yourself would be a legitimate reason to carry a firearm in the US. It's not deemed a legitimate reason here. Same goes for any weapon. There are some real alarming statistics involving handguns. Rifles etc are used in about the same number of murders, suicides etc as any number of other objects, but handguns are out there on their own. It's them I have the problem with and we won't agree on that.

Lady72nRob71

In Texas, one can carry a knife in public, if it is in a holster and below a certain length (I think 4.5").
The 12 year olds robbing others with guns are the ones who take the guns from someone else for that purpose - either with or without their permission. The bad guys will always be able to get any kind of gun (or other weapons) from the blackmarket or another bad guy with stolen cash. The good guys are the ones who are pushed through all the hoops by the govt to get a gun to protect themselves from the bad guys. Makes no good sense. Take away the good guys' guns and the criminals win and rob more.

I think people in other countries are MUCH more disciplined than people around here. Sweden, Finland, Australia come to mind first. I have been to the first two and I felt VERY safe as a tourist. This coincides with the stats on your picture.

Over here in Dallas, the news reports on the avg. 3-5 killings a day due to robbery, domestic violence, racial issues, or revenge. Having a gun to protect yourself is almost required here.
In south dallas, even an run down chevy cavalier is fair game for car jackings.

cutlassjoe

No worries at all. I know what the intent was with the comment and the story. I do hear that all the time though. It makes me sick that these peeps can steal millions and get a slap on the wrist, while the rest of us have to pay.

MDchanic

As far as knives, rules vary by state and are usually a bit vague.
I myself am almost never without my 5" folding "filleting" knife.

When I was growing up in NYC in the '70's, the law had been the same since colonial times, and simply said that no blade could be carried concealed, and my friends and I would often carry swords (genuine antiques / war relics) in school, as there was no law against it. Great for stopping a mugging .

- Eric

oldsguybry

I live in Milwaukee WI , and have lots of guns with good reason.

Aceshigh

I've been to Summerfest in Milwaukee and after dark.....it gets very very dark and violent.
I've never been back there since, and I'm from Chicago.....

Sorry to hear that. However, if you prefer it that way, I guess that's good for ya
I've been to Melbourne in 1996, beautiful city.
I would have relocated there too......the city really opened their arms to us. (US Navy)
I had such a blast there. I really do wish I'd have stuck it out.

A stripper from a place on Kings street flew all the way to Seattle and was waiting on the pier for me 3 weeks later. No BS.
HOLY CRAP!!!! IT's STILL THERE!!!! Showgirls Bar 20......I still have their plastic money in my collection.

Here's all 50 state knife laws.
http://pweb.netcom.com/~brlevine/sta-law.htm

Illinois you can as well, as long as it's under 3" which they use the generic street measurement of the palm of your hand.

Simple way to get around this is to carry it in a Leatherman / Gerber sheath on your belt.
If you do something stupid, and you're arrested, it's up to the arresting officer how to charge you.

Col Wickham

OK guys,...with those kind of crime stats I'd be packing a piece as well
We have around 300 homicides annually nationally across a population of around $20mill. Only 15% of those involve firearms. We have not had a mass shooting since our gun laws came into being after Martin Bryant went ballistic in Tasmania in '96 killing 35 people. Until then we'd had 10 incidents claiming 112 lives. I guess that's a positive thing. To MDchanics point, most if not all of these mass shooters are schizos. The guy who cut loose in Tucson was no different. How the hell could he walk in off the street and purchase that gun?
Therein lies one big problem. We won't stop crims getting their hands on guns, but how do we stop nutcases walking out of a gunshop with next weeks headlines in their pocket
Your flags are flying at half mast for the Arizona victims today. I'll be thinking of them and hoping that Congresswoman Giffords pulls through.