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Old July 12th, 2011, 01:07 PM
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A sucker for dead General Motors...

Fine I said it. GM You Suck!
I happened... They killed Oldsmobile! I couldn't belive it!
You, Me, and so many breathren, sent letters and e-mails.
Think they cared? Yea right. Let's recap... Kill off you best seller,
CUTLASS, are you kidding me???
Pontiac? I chuckeled at first. Shook my head for the second time..
Today I found a '68 Poncho GOAT with A FACTORY DUEL GATE!
Was that available? I am True Blue Oldsmobile NUT!
This is a running driving true GTO with a 400 WITH AIR
for 8 K. Crappy paint, and front fenders need the patch job.
What do you guys think? Thats all the rust I could find. I
am sure there is a little more here and there, but it's straight,
and its tagged and stickered...
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Old July 12th, 2011, 01:15 PM
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The goat

Gotta go guys, He said he would carry me, store it untill paid...
Gonna drive out the Supreme wagon, and see what I can do...
At least I will have Cold A/C, either way
Wish me luck with God's blessings
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Old July 12th, 2011, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tru-blue 442
Today I found a '68 Poncho GOAT with A FACTORY DUEL GATE!
Was that available?
No, but a factory DUAL gate was available.

The Poncho dual gates used a straight stick the Olds (and aftermarket) dual gates used a bent (dogleg) stick.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 02:47 PM
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Duel, dual. I have been shoot'nt it out for a while now..
Did I spell that right?
Gotta Love it! Thanks joe.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tru-blue 442
Kill off you best seller,
CUTLASS, are you kidding me???
The Cutlass was the best-selling model in America in the 1970s, not at the time that decisions about Oldsmobile's fate were being made in the 1990s.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tru-blue 442
I have been shoot'nt it out for a while now..
Did I spell that right?
Shoot'nt?

Do you mean shootin'?
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Old July 12th, 2011, 03:30 PM
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IIRC '68 was the last year for the Dual Gate in the GTO.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 03:37 PM
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OK OK... SHOOTING, OR SHOETING, OR SCHOOTING, OR SHEWTING, Who Cares?
What about the '68?
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Old July 13th, 2011, 09:35 AM
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Didn't mean to step on any toes
My twisted sense of humer gets in the way at times
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Old July 13th, 2011, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mmurphy77
IIRC '68 was the last year for the Dual Gate in the GTO.
For an actual shifter with two shift gates, yes, but Pontiac came up with an ingenious ratchet shifter that most people who had one didn't even know they had.

Look on a 70 thru about 77 Pontiac with AT and console and you may see, in addition to the lighted PRNDSL shift indicator lens, a 3 2 1 engraved on the right side of the shifter gate. A car with this has a ratchet shifter. Pull it into L (1), and when you want second, push forward hard and to the right and it will stop in S (2). Do the same thing with the S (2) to D (3) shift. Ingenious design. I think Firebird/TransAM used these 78-81, without the 3 2 1 on the shift plate. Not sure if Camaro had them, and Olds and Buick never used them.
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Originally Posted by rocketraider
For an actual shifter with two shift gates, yes, but Pontiac came up with an ingenious ratchet shifter that most people who had one didn't even know they had.
And, in fact, that ratchet shifter can be retrofitted to a 67-69 Olds automatic console. I had one in my 68 Vista Cruiser back in high school. Of course, back then it was easy to find both the shifters and the consoles (and the bucket seats) in a wrecking yard for cheap.
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