inner fender well to rubber dust shield staple tool ?

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Old January 26th, 2012, 04:39 PM
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inner fender well to rubber dust shield staple tool ?

anybody know where to get one? who makes em? part # ? how much? the tool used to attach staples to rubber dust shields through inner front fenderwells above upper control arms...
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Old January 26th, 2012, 04:55 PM
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If your old staples are still in there and not rusted away, you can reuse them.
I did this and not one of them broke.
If this will not work, and you have patience you could find new staples that will go in the old holes in the plastic. Or drill out tiny holes to push in the new ones.
An auto trim shop might have a stapler and might do it for a small fee. I am betting the proper machine will not be cheap.
Of course if you plan to use it a lot it would be worth the investment...
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Old January 26th, 2012, 04:58 PM
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I don't think they sell one. I think most guys drill the holes for the staples, put them in and bend them over. I need to do mine too.
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I believe you have my stapler.
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Old January 26th, 2012, 05:51 PM
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Have you seen my stapler? it's a red Swingline....
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Old January 26th, 2012, 05:54 PM
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Have you ever noticed that there is no real pattern to the way the staples were put in? That means you can't go wrong with putting new ones in. Mine are pretty rusty so I'm taking them out and using the replacements in the same holes.
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Old January 26th, 2012, 05:59 PM
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No pattern at all. Sloppy in fact.
One of mine was only half in the plastic! And to keep it original looking, I reused it's half side!
Here is my adventure...
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Old January 26th, 2012, 06:20 PM
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I remember that. Only thing different on mine is I think I have 1/3 less staples holding the flaps in. I might drill some holes and put in some extras. Right now they are out behind the shed wrapped in 3 layers of tarps to keep them from getting UV or IR damage. Still need the oven cleaner treatment before they get buffed or plastic painted.
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Old January 26th, 2012, 07:05 PM
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They were installed with a very large electrical stapler, with the seal being held in place while the machine operator moved the inner panel to the next staple location. The staples were actually a wire on a spool. The staplers were made by Bostitch in Orange NJ. The company still exists, but it isn't the same, nor are they still located in Orange. They manufactured every type of commercial stapler that you could conceive.

http://www.bostitch.com/default.asp?...YPE=STATICLEFT
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Old January 26th, 2012, 07:15 PM
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Gee, now I'm wondering if one of the T- staplers would have enough grunt to get through. Sounds like time to go find some plastic and test my assortment of staplers....
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I had to laugh when I read the first post.....

The staples GM used are the hardest and toughest I have ever encountered.

If you reuse them, I second the opinion of drilling holes in the plastic liners, then use a body hammer and dolly to fold them over.

Best done with the liners out of the car.

Not a fun job!
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Old January 27th, 2012, 04:36 AM
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I have to do mine and was wondering what the staple pattern was. I have all new so ther are no holes. The pattern was random? Roughly how many on each side? How far apart? Thanks
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Old January 27th, 2012, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 69'442
I have to do mine and was wondering what the staple pattern was. I have all new so ther are no holes. The pattern was random? Roughly how many on each side? How far apart? Thanks
Here is a good guideline - 12 staples total. These are the factory staples int he factory places, reused. The bent over sections of the staples are what you see below.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 06:10 AM
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FYI -- Fusick sells the staples -- and the flaps too for that matter. use same holes if replacing or drill new ones to size. YES - you must bend them over manually.
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Great example. Thanks
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Old January 27th, 2012, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 69'442
I have to do mine and was wondering what the staple pattern was. I have all new so ther are no holes. The pattern was random? Roughly how many on each side? How far apart? Thanks
Take a look at the thumbnail I posted. That is an original inner liner. Note how 'symmetrical' the stapes are? Its completely random. I think the line workers must have had about 15 seconds or less to do this because even the other side looks different.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 11:06 AM
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I see what you mean.
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Old January 27th, 2012, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Allan R
Take a look at the thumbnail I posted. That is an original inner liner. Note how 'symmetrical' the stapes are? Its completely random. I think the line workers must have had about 15 seconds or less to do this because even the other side looks different.
It looks like they took more care in doing mine - must not have been built on a Friday...
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Old January 27th, 2012, 11:46 AM
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Unfortunately mine was. Build dates were Friday evening and Mon morning. IMO this just is an early indicator of how the auto workers created the need for quality controls that brought justification to introduce robots to assembly lines. Faster, uniformity, work full shift without breaks, don't have to pay them, can multi task without getting confused..
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Old January 28th, 2012, 03:59 AM
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OK. So do they mount on the inside or the outside of the fenderwell?? 1 photo looks to be on the inside (Tire side) and the other on the engine compartment side.
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You can also use the medium sized zinc plated paperclips cut to size. make yourself a little template for the hole drilling and you're all set!
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Old January 28th, 2012, 06:39 AM
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OK. So do they mount on the inside or the outside of the fenderwell?? 1 photo looks to be on the inside (Tire side) and the other on the engine compartment side.
Both mine and Allan's are mounted on the tire side, just the way the factory did them on our cars. That does not mean to say ALL were made like that. If a new line guy did some wrong, I doubt they would waste the parts for such a minor mistake...
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Old January 28th, 2012, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Lady72nRob71
Both mine and Allan's are mounted on the tire side, just the way the factory did them on our cars. That does not mean to say ALL were made like that. If a new line guy did some wrong, I doubt they would waste the parts for such a minor mistake...
I think was might have caused the confusion is that Rob took his picture from the inside of the liner, and I took mine from the outside. It's all good though. Rob also added some rock guard to the inside of his liners (I think it was to hide the discoloration of the plastic?).
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Old January 28th, 2012, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Allan R
Rob also added some rock guard to the inside of his liners (I think it was to hide the discoloration of the plastic?).
Rock guard? Just undercoating. Heck, rocks will just take it off...
Thay originally had undercoat on them but 1/4 was missing. I recoated it to restore it to how I think it was before and to hide the discoloration.
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Originally Posted by Allan R
I think was might have caused the confusion is that Rob took his picture from the inside of the liner, and I took mine from the outside. It's all good though. Rob also added some rock guard to the inside of his liners (I think it was to hide the discoloration of the plastic?).
OK, I see it now. Thanks.
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